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  The Truth about the bible

  by TTWSYF in

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  it really is common sense, but nobody here seems to recognize or acknowledge this blatant and obvious truth.. the holy bible is the result of the catholic liturgy.

  they used these scriptures in their religious practices and confirmed which books would and would not be part of their cannon.

  they picked, preserved and promoted these books and gave 'the word of god' to the world.. i know that pisses off some folks, but it is the truth [not the 'truth'tm].

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  Jehovah's Witnesses are Unitarians with a Protestant Bible Canon.

  Take that.
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  Those that need to see a Therapist / and those that don`t is there a correlation of the two ?

  by smiddy3 in

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  there have been a number of threads / posts here over the years about ex jw`s needing to see therapists for what they are going through , and i can appreciate that.. obviously there are many ex jw`s on here that haven`t ever felt the need to see a therapist ,and i`m just wondering why not ?.

  why does one feel the need and another does not ?.

  is it to do with born ins as against those who were converts ?

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  there are many ex JW`s on here that haven`t ever felt the need to see a therapist ,and I`m just wondering why not ?

  
  No great mystery.
  
  This is true in life outside of JW's, this is true of life inside JW's.
  And just because someone doesn't "feel the need," it doesn't mean they should not see a therapist. I work with a bunch of people that deny that their problems with life are getting to them. A bunch of people in my family deny that they have any weaknesses or problems that they would like to share with a therapist.
  
  But even short of that, maybe some just haven't had it bad enough that they cannot find the help they need without professional help.
  
  If Joe and Geena Publisher leave the organization together, having no living parents in the JW organization and no kids being shunned by family, they might not carry a heavy load that they cannot console each other with.
  
  If Jenny leaves and her husband doesn't, or her mother shuns her, or her own adult children limit her contact with her grandchildren who are being raised in that cult, I think you know she might need a little help with the burden put upon her by others trying to tell her the problem is with her and not with them.
  
  As some mentioned, some gave their all- hopes, dreams, goals, their entire way of thinking over to the Watchtower. Others may have casually been JW's, because it really wasn't for them but they were born into it. When they leave, the first group might have more reason to need counsel.
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  If You Could Tell A Prospective Jehovah’s Witness Something What Would It Be?

  by minimus in

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  any words of wisdom?

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  "Should a prospective Mormon avoid asking former Mormons or outside sources what's wrong with becoming a Mormon, or should he just read Mormon-approved materials and trust that they have 'the truth'?"
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  Were You A Gullible JW?

  by minimus in

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  i think every congregation has their group that sees everything as a sign that they are god’s chosen people.

  if a witness didn’t go to a meeting and a storm came and destroyed their house and killed them, and only the kingdom hall was saved, that was a sign that we should be in jehovah’s house.

  if russia persecuted jws , it’s proof we are living in the last days.

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  I became a JW as an adult (with much exposure as a kid).
  I needed to latch onto something in my life, so I suppose I was a bit gullible for awhile.
  
  But a couple years into the religion, I pretty much figured out that good times and bad times and natural disasters and political changes and war and peace and changes in the doctrine- ALL INDICATED TO MANY JW's THAT THE END WAS IMMINENT!
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  Amber Scorah is on the Daily Show tonight.

  by I quit! in

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  2. friends

  just wanted to let everyone know that ex-jw amber scorch is on the daily show on comedy central tonight.

  it should very good.

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  May Amber be to Watchtower what Leah Remini is to Scientology.

  (Okay, a bit lofty goal- but you never know)
  
  I ordered the book. Will read it during my trip to Tahoe Apostafest.

  Her webpage says "Immersion in a foreign language and culture--and a whole new way of thinking--turned her world upside down, and eventually led her to lose all that she had been sure was true." I relate because moving to a foreign language congregation was like that for me.
  
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  Wedding Rings.

  by Lost in the fog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  we have long queried why so-called things of pagan or religious origin like christmas or easter are banned by the wts but the use of wedding rings were not.. i was talking about this with a friend who follows a wiccan path of belief and he has sent me the following information from one of his magic magazines.. quote: .

  " why do we wear our wedding ring on our ‘ring finger’ ?

  thus, to properly activate the ring finger we need to wear a golden ring on it.

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  Blondie, I will consider getting that as a tattoo-
  
  jwdotorg: "As in all aspects of life, Christians should make decisions that will leave them with a clear conscience before Jehovah God.​"
  
  As far as what I have to say- you all know what it is- It's a cult.
  Things that allow you to associate more closely with "worldly" relatives and schoolmates and workmates- like Christmas, birthdays, Easter, etc.- must be banned. But the wedding ring marks you as married and, at least to an organization whose rules are from the early 20th century, provides a measure of protection/separation from the world.
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  Hypocrisy Magazine

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  iwantoutnow- Yup, that's their version of "never would we want to be like the Pharisees."
  
  Atlantis- sad that they will never see it that way.
  
  LV101, yup. Thanks for commenting.

  Vidiot, I love it.
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  Hypocrisy Magazine

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  I saw that on FB and had to share my laugh.
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  Hypocrisy Magazine

  by OnTheWayOut in

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  Is this guy making a lot of mistakes?

  by rockemsockem in

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  2. beliefs

  i watched this video just a bit and from what i saw he made a lot of fundamental misstatements on jws.

  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=le5kqhf8fx0.

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  Most people have no clue what JW's believe and practice.
  I haven't watched the video because it is long. But as far as what's being said here, "cult" has taken on a modern meaning. What is narrowly defined as a "dangerous mind-control cult" is generally accepted for just the word "cult" today, but it did have the meaning of just an offshoot religion, which every single religion today is. It morphed into small offshoot religions and then to weird religions with various denominations being "sects." It isn't wrong.
  
  Also, as far as laymen are concerned, the calling of the 144K did stop in 1935 when they started the "great crowd" teaching. And as far as laymen and many JW's are concerned, they do shun ex-JW's.