someone asked if anyone had a post of one of the awake declarations of 1975 end of times i found this link:
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191975 end of times i found this link:
by ania insomeone asked if anyone had a post of one of the awake declarations of 1975 end of times i found this link:.
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If the Apostles "expected" Jesus to return in the first century is that fp?
by booker-t inwhat is the "difference" between what early christians and biblical prophets did in expecting jesus to return in the 1st century and what jw's have done for over 100 years of false expectations?
i am in no way trying to excuse jw's and their false prophecies but why is it so different when born-agains and other christians set a date for something but when it fails no body says one word about it.
but when jw's and mormons do the same thing all hell breaks loose.
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But I think all of those television evangelists are just as arrogant and smarmy.
& at least you can change the channel or switch them off!!! The only thing that gets rid of JW's is a vicious dog or a realy big "SATANIST"S LIVE HERE" sign
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You think the jws have some odd ideas? Read this
by fullofdoubtnow inman inhabits dog?
rabbis ponder case of straymonday september 18, 10:07 am.
jerusalem (reuters) - a stray dog which refused to budge from the home of a recently deceased rabbi has finally moved on after a "redemption ceremony" at an israeli cemetery.
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i was born into a violent abusive JW family
by ania inthe abuser was my father, we were all (7 children) abused severely (including our mother) as a child i did not understand what exactly was going on but after many years of councelling and so-forth (my counceller tells me, my case is the most severe she has had in her 12 years as a counceller) i discovered that my father was (is) a sado-masichist.
he got sexual enjoyment from beating us all.
i already knew this to an extent i just never realised there was actually a name for what he got out of it.. after 20 odd years of this abuse, my mother had tried to go through the right channels (the elders, in several congregations we moved to etc) in order to get permission to take her children and live separate to her husband who was a constant threat to our very lives (he was a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic & incrediably unpredictable) she was however told time and again that if she left her husband she and her unbaptised children (under 18) would most certainly lose out on everlasting life.
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ania
Either way you put it still is a personal decision. So what if they threaten me with df or shunning me? I wouldn't care at all, the most important thing is to stop the abuse and not letting it happen again no matter what elders say about it. This is what I have a hard time with, the power that some give to the elders when they should never have that power.
R6Laser...i'm not sure wot to say...i assume you are refering to my mum (as she was the adult in the situation) i have had a very hard time forgiving my mother for not doing much, much more to get us away and keep us away. I saw her as a very weak person for allowing herself & children to be treated this way. But i am not her and i don't realy know the full extent of what she went through i do know she lived in fear...& that she truely believed everything we were taught & that she was one of the 144,000 (funny that ...she is now a Bahai ).
When i was a kid i thought to myself i will never let anyone hurt my children so in many way's my parents taught me how to be a good parent : by showing me how not to be !!! The JWs taught me: to see falsehood and hypocracy in religion (including thier own).
I agree with you whole heartidly that they should NEVER HAVE that POWER to make such decisions over peoples lives and they need to be stopped, but i think the only way to do that is to educate people to be ware!!!
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i was born into a violent abusive JW family
by ania inthe abuser was my father, we were all (7 children) abused severely (including our mother) as a child i did not understand what exactly was going on but after many years of councelling and so-forth (my counceller tells me, my case is the most severe she has had in her 12 years as a counceller) i discovered that my father was (is) a sado-masichist.
he got sexual enjoyment from beating us all.
i already knew this to an extent i just never realised there was actually a name for what he got out of it.. after 20 odd years of this abuse, my mother had tried to go through the right channels (the elders, in several congregations we moved to etc) in order to get permission to take her children and live separate to her husband who was a constant threat to our very lives (he was a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic & incrediably unpredictable) she was however told time and again that if she left her husband she and her unbaptised children (under 18) would most certainly lose out on everlasting life.
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ania
If you know his wife's initials that may help.
No i don't i guess i will have to ask my mother if she does (don't realy like to upset her). Thanks for yr input
sass_my_frass-Yes thank you, I realy do have a wonderfull life now-I'm lucky i got out young. I am the 2nd to youngest out of 7 (kids) & the older ones had to endure for alot longer than i, so 4 that i am grateful.
Also i have had the greater part of my life, to learn social skills & a few other life skills that jw world inhibits us from (social & educational wise). I made many mistakes & had many heartaches but i now live far away from past hurt, i have 2 realy great kids . My son is 13 & daughter 14, they have been raised abuse free. I live in a lovely picturesque town by the sea (finaly found our niche) & have a great circle of friends some of whom are like family & we spend xmas with them. I could never talk to them about life as a jw though, as they wouldn't understand. My kids attend a good school with a realy good support network for single parents as well as teenagers with learning, social or emotional difficulties. And now i have found a forum full of others i can identify with...who could ask for more
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Agent Smith's story
by AgentSmith ini was born into a jw family.
my father's parents were jw.
my mother?s family was a big mix.
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ania
And then I found this forum. I was not alone. There were others with the same feelings and with very similar experiences as my own. I feel relieved to finally be able to speak my mind. Thank you to those who started this forum.
Welcome Agent smith
I felt like that too, and had a very similar experience at school. But i am sooo glad i do not live in a war afflicted country...i am so very lucky to live in such a beautiful free country
Realy enjoyed reading your story You should think about writing a book one day (about your life)
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How many people in this forum are from NewZealand??
by ania inhello i am a newbie and just saw another person in the forum from nz.
it hadn't even occured to me...now i wonder how many there are??
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Hello i am a newbie and just saw another person in the forum from NZ. It hadn't even occured to me...now i wonder how many there are???
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another evolution thread...
by anakolouthos ini've been scanning thru geronimo's recent thread on evolution, & have really enjoyed reading all the fascinating responses.
i was going to post in there, but was worried it might get buried.
many may not know me here, as i've barely posted, but in a nutshell, i'm still in the org (somewhat trapped at the moment) but consider myself a christian with somewhat leftish leanings.
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ania
I like rading yr threads "Lovelylil" u have a very open mind
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i was born into a violent abusive JW family
by ania inthe abuser was my father, we were all (7 children) abused severely (including our mother) as a child i did not understand what exactly was going on but after many years of councelling and so-forth (my counceller tells me, my case is the most severe she has had in her 12 years as a counceller) i discovered that my father was (is) a sado-masichist.
he got sexual enjoyment from beating us all.
i already knew this to an extent i just never realised there was actually a name for what he got out of it.. after 20 odd years of this abuse, my mother had tried to go through the right channels (the elders, in several congregations we moved to etc) in order to get permission to take her children and live separate to her husband who was a constant threat to our very lives (he was a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic & incrediably unpredictable) she was however told time and again that if she left her husband she and her unbaptised children (under 18) would most certainly lose out on everlasting life.
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<b>attracts<b/>
oops sorry bout the funny symbols...i see html code dosn't work in here
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i was born into a violent abusive JW family
by ania inthe abuser was my father, we were all (7 children) abused severely (including our mother) as a child i did not understand what exactly was going on but after many years of councelling and so-forth (my counceller tells me, my case is the most severe she has had in her 12 years as a counceller) i discovered that my father was (is) a sado-masichist.
he got sexual enjoyment from beating us all.
i already knew this to an extent i just never realised there was actually a name for what he got out of it.. after 20 odd years of this abuse, my mother had tried to go through the right channels (the elders, in several congregations we moved to etc) in order to get permission to take her children and live separate to her husband who was a constant threat to our very lives (he was a diagnosed paranoid schizophrenic & incrediably unpredictable) she was however told time and again that if she left her husband she and her unbaptised children (under 18) would most certainly lose out on everlasting life.
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Dannyhazard- wow i checked out that link OMG That kind of explains everything dosnt it. Funny thing is my mum was 2nd generation jw but my father was raised an Anglican or sumthing. So i would be inclined to go with the part that sugests perhaps WTS <b>attracts<b/> phsycopaths.
