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  Where the real abuse lies.

  by ctrwtf in

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  2. friends

  let me start with a disclaimer: i am in no way minimizing the horrific crimes done to children by pedophiles.

  i'm not downplaying the number of lives lost due to the blood issue, or hearts broken because of shunning.

  i do not want to discount the feelings of those who have come to the end of their lives with expectations of paradise postponed.. but to me the biggest atrocity committed by this awful cult is raising children from a small age to believe that soon god will kill billions of people.

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  rebelfighter

  Never a JW but the "Elder" gave me the book on Families to see how I would react. I read the part on raising children and as a child advocate I did REACT. It was not pretty. That book alone had red flags glaring all through it.

  Some of the cartoons are red herrings. Most of them are abusive. I believe it was this past January or February had I of been a parent in a KH when it was aired I would not have needed a mic to been heard I would have instantly made it known how totally inappropriate that cartoon was for the children and any adult parent who passes that teaching on to their children are equally abusive.

  I have said before and I will say again this religion should be reserved for MEN ONLY, leave the children and women at home.
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  My experience with some ex-JW Christians

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  currently i can accept the existence of "god" if you say that "god" is a superior rational being.

  i support the idea for the existence of superior beings living in other places.

  it means to me that we, humans, are not the superior ones in the universe.

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  rebelfighter

  
  opusdei1972Don't get me wrong, I think there is a lot of good sound advise in the Bible. Especially if you read it to live a life of high morals, to love one another and to take care of your neighbor.
  I am now in my 60's but I placed on my wall as a teenager a poem which I read twice a day when I rise in the morning and before going to bed. It has been made into a song and there is a book out now that takes every line of the poem and ties it to many verses in the Bible.
  Footprints in the Sand
  
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  My experience with some ex-JW Christians

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  currently i can accept the existence of "god" if you say that "god" is a superior rational being.

  i support the idea for the existence of superior beings living in other places.

  it means to me that we, humans, are not the superior ones in the universe.

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  rebelfighter

  opusdei1972Did God write the Bible or did men write the Bible? I will ask the same question with all the other religions and the books they follow did their God's write their books or did men write them? They will all tell you that they are inspired by God.I have found most religions have their good points and they have their bad points.
  
  
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  Encounter with J.W's at wittnessing kart.

  by karter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  me-you allow pedophiles to go d2d and into peoples houses even when they have children.. j.w-no we don't.. me-the one that interfered with a relative of mine does and another i know who raped his sister does in fact he's an elder.. j.w-we cant stop them going d2d.. me- so now your saying they do go d2d you can't stop them,no you don't want to!.

  j.w-it happens in all religions.. me- so that justifies sending pedo's into strangers houses.how would you like it if a pedo came to your place and you didn't know.. j.w- it happened to my mother and if he came to my place it knock him out.. me - but you have no problem with anyone from your church going to peoples houses even if they are a pedo.. we argued around in circles with him saying the elders may not know and me saying well i told them and so did the victim and he admitted to it ,then i told him about the r.c in australia and he said that could be anyone claiming to be a j.w could be on the stand ( by this time he was getting desperate)the i said like jeffery jackson?.

  i told them to look it up on you tube.. i gave then the names and congro's the 2 pedo's are in and said i'd come back next week and see if they had checked it out.the lady's body language said she knew the elder that raped his sister as they are a well know family they were in the year book a few years ago.. stand by for next week.. karter.

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  Crazyguy,

  This was before the ARC so it was based on the JW family book the "Elder" had given me to read. As a child advocate all my life 1. After school enrichment programs 2. Socializing with classmates during recess 3. Higher education

  And of course I got Yes our children do participate in those things to each of the questions.

  After the ARC, I have not encountered any JWS in our area anywhere. This is sort of surprising as there are 3 KH'S within less then 10 miles of my house (I would say with rather poor attendance at 2, I have not found the 3rd). One of the KH's I know for a fact that the WT could get a bundle for it if they put it on the market because nothing goes on the market in this neighborhood without a bloody bidding war. It took me three attempts to buy a house before not getting out bidded. The last time I checked the accessed value on this single KH which is well hidden off the beaten path with a very small residential house attached to it is valued at $500,000. All of its neighbors are million dollar properties on lakes.
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  My experience with some ex-JW Christians

  by opusdei1972 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  currently i can accept the existence of "god" if you say that "god" is a superior rational being.

  i support the idea for the existence of superior beings living in other places.

  it means to me that we, humans, are not the superior ones in the universe.

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  rebelfighter

  How about God created us to get along with one another and love another and care for one another. Had God created religion there would only be ONE religion SO all these religions are man made, the stories are man made. Let's try are best to get along with one another.
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  What was your ''the last straw that broke the camels back'' moment

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is a limit to how much straw (long yellow grass) a camel can carry on its back.

  if you keep putting more straw on top, it will finally break the camel's back.

  when you are at the last straw you are finally angry and will not take any more.. my moment (to stop attending all watchtower meetings) was after the harsh treatment from the elders and fellow congregation members of my second cousin who was disfellowhipped as a teenager.

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  We talked on the phone for 5 years 4 or 5 times a day. I will add he called me, i never called him. As I traveled through his state about once every three months we would get together for a long day together. I will add we never really discussed his religion because I had made it very clear in the beginning that I believe in God but strongly do not believe in religion. Then he gave me the JW book on Families well I read it. I will add that I have always been a very big child's advocate. I mildly made a couple of comments to him about the contents of the book. LOL. He did not tell me the rules about we do not question our beliefs. LOL The mild questions then got a little stronger. Then a started asking about women because oops I am also a woman's advocate. To say the least he was staying calm, I was getting heated because he was avoiding all questions.
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  What was your ''the last straw that broke the camels back'' moment

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  there is a limit to how much straw (long yellow grass) a camel can carry on its back.

  if you keep putting more straw on top, it will finally break the camel's back.

  when you are at the last straw you are finally angry and will not take any more.. my moment (to stop attending all watchtower meetings) was after the harsh treatment from the elders and fellow congregation members of my second cousin who was disfellowhipped as a teenager.

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  Never a JW, I think these experiences are disgusting. In my finally round of emails with the "Elder" I pointed out that God wanted us to all get along and love one another. My last straw with him was when he sent me 20 days of sermons and Bible verses instead of directly answering all of my questions regarding what had been going on between us for 5 years. So I sent him an email headed Roasted, Toasted, Deep Fried and BBQ next sentence was I will take all emails to one of 3 local KH's and have one of their Elders explain you and your emails to me.
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  Encounter with J.W's at wittnessing kart.

  by karter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  me-you allow pedophiles to go d2d and into peoples houses even when they have children.. j.w-no we don't.. me-the one that interfered with a relative of mine does and another i know who raped his sister does in fact he's an elder.. j.w-we cant stop them going d2d.. me- so now your saying they do go d2d you can't stop them,no you don't want to!.

  j.w-it happens in all religions.. me- so that justifies sending pedo's into strangers houses.how would you like it if a pedo came to your place and you didn't know.. j.w- it happened to my mother and if he came to my place it knock him out.. me - but you have no problem with anyone from your church going to peoples houses even if they are a pedo.. we argued around in circles with him saying the elders may not know and me saying well i told them and so did the victim and he admitted to it ,then i told him about the r.c in australia and he said that could be anyone claiming to be a j.w could be on the stand ( by this time he was getting desperate)the i said like jeffery jackson?.

  i told them to look it up on you tube.. i gave then the names and congro's the 2 pedo's are in and said i'd come back next week and see if they had checked it out.the lady's body language said she knew the elder that raped his sister as they are a well know family they were in the year book a few years ago.. stand by for next week.. karter.

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  We have a very large parking lot that serves a 7-11 gas station, a McDonalds and a Big Lots along with several little stores. There was never a day that the JWS were not there handing out literature until one day in front of 3 homeless people who I had just given $5. I asked the gentleman 3 questions regarding raising children then I asked him if he knew it was wrong to tell a lie. Well he peeled rubber out of that lot and there has been no Witnesses there since.
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  Need to know when the next apostate bashing article comes out

  by outsmartthesystem in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  so.....the court has updated binding recommendations to include the following:.

  "each parent shall ensure that no other person or entity disparages, criticizes, or condemns the other parent in the children's presence, whether it is directly, indirectly, specifically or broadly stated, or articulated in any form - action, illustration or words.

  each parent has an affirmative responsibility to shield the children from this sort of behavior.".

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  rebelfighter

  Look at Feb 2016 WT
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  Articles: Foreign-born adoptee abused by JW adoptive parents

  by AndersonsInfo in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/adopted-children-deportation-adam-crapser_566a0cd9e4b080eddf57b949.

  synopsis:.

  crapser was originally adopted, along with his sister, by a michigan couple, who relinquished the siblings after six years.

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  rebelfighter

  This is indeed horrible. What the hell is wrong with our judicial system when a young man gets 25 months for burglary and that scumbag got 90 days for child rape. That is simply outrageous. Both of these parents should have been locked up for a very long time for cruelty to children.