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  The handling of child abuse allegations

  by Landy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.

  but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.

  there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.

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  rebelfighter

  Landy,

  Read my first post again. No where did I say to advise the victim or victims parents to go the police.

  We as Certified Adult Volunteers we are required to notify either the police or the proper authorities if we suspect abuse. The reason we do not involve the family because it MAYBE a family member causing the abuse!!

  We get 100% backing from all of the organizations when we do this because 90% of our organizations are out there as charities to raise money for children causes. We just simply LOVE LOVE children. We love our children -- we love YOUR children -- we love every Child!!

  Look up

  Hearing Impaired Kids Endowment

  Shriner's Hospital

  Those are my two passions, I give my all to both of them. I give also to abused /homeless children and women shelters.

  I will not get in a debate with you. No uneducated man in the field of child abuse has any right to question a victim of abuse. I am a female, I will not question a victim of child abuse. I am the victim of both emotional and physical abuse and I can tell you NO man with the exception of a trained therapist has any right to talk to a woman about what she has been through.
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  The handling of child abuse allegations

  by Landy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.

  but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.

  there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.

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  rebelfighter

  Landy,

  The WT needs trained to begin with in emotional, physical and sexual abuse and get their heads out of the sand. Prime example those Caleb and Sofia cartoons should have an Adult rating on them.

  My introduction into the JW Religion was the booklet on Families, I have never in my life gotten so much exercise reading one little booklet. I threw that booklet across the room so many times just to go retrieve and attempt to read the next d.... paragraph. These Elders who are supposed to be the leaders of the Flock of the congregation should be trained how to deal with children. How many times on this forum do we hear from kids they are getting df'd or kicked out of their homes. In our organization we DO NOT consider anyone an adult until they are 20 and if they are in any kind of trouble we rally around them parents, a half dozen adults, pull in outside councilling and whatever else it takes to turn the kid around. The last thing we are going to do so TURN OUR BACK on a kid.

  BTW, the kids and the adults are in this organization to raise money for kids around the world who have hearing problems. The money goes to any kid no matter what their religious beliefs, sex, race or whatever, if they need it all they need to do is apply. It is kids helping kids!!!

  If you have not figured it out I have a ZERO tolerance for any form of child abuse. The police know how to investigate and how to deal with victims the Elders know NOTHING!!!
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  maths

  by pepperheart in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  on the front of the 2016 year book it says that the watchtower is spending $200 million us dollars a year on special pioners etc if they get $1 billion us dollars from selling all the buildings at bethel in new york by my mats that gives them another five years or so.what might happen after that ????

  :-).

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  How much of NY City property was already financed? Did they see the full sale price or did a good portion go to pay off outstanding debt?
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  The handling of child abuse allegations

  by Landy in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  there's a lot of criticism surrounding the jw's handling of chiild abuse within their ranks with a lot of it being well deserved.

  but i'm interested to know how people on here think child abuse allegations should be handled.

  there's a few scenarios below, the first couple are easy then it gets a bit more complex.

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  rebelfighter

  I was never a JW but come from an organization where every adult is required to be a Certified Adult Volunteer. We must attend an 8 hour training session annually to review how to IDENTIFY not investigate all forms of child abuse. Our instructions are we do not care if the state law is mandatory reporting if we suspect emotional, physical or sexual abuse - We Report!!!! Second part of the instructions since some of our adult leaders are MALE -- This is drilled over and over into their heads numerous times throughout the day of training. If one of the girls comes to you and says "I am being abused" You need to find a female adult CAV and turn this girl over to her immediately and get lost. No male adult is to be present under any circumstances. Call authorities immediately. The police and the authorities are far more capable of figuring out, they have TRAINED personnel both in the field of investigation and they have TRAINED personnel to deal with VICTIMS!!!!

  From what I have read on this forum JWS have NO clue how to deal with VICTIMS of abuse. The only thing they know how to do is to inflict futher abuse on a victim. AND the very LAST person(s) who should be involved are those Elders.
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  Oh God(s)!

  by tepidpoultry in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  meant to hopefully get your mind off the craziness which we sadly refer to as the news these days,.

  we'll call this one .

  fun for seculars.

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  rebelfighter

  I find it interesting that I was only able to detect 1 lady comment

  so far and she was a 1 Strong Theist (the only one)

  tepidpoultry,

  The lady was never a JW nor has she ever been in a KH. This maybe difference. LOL.
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  Oh God(s)!

  by tepidpoultry in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  meant to hopefully get your mind off the craziness which we sadly refer to as the news these days,.

  we'll call this one .

  fun for seculars.

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  rebelfighter

  A very strong 1. I believe in God and I am extremely spiritual. Do not believe in Religion. Was raised Lutheran and walked away at age 50. I believe that all Religions are man made. I was done with men of the cloth lying.

  My faith in God and knowing that he was there watching over me has gotten me through many trials in my life.
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  Interesting comment at circuit assembly demo homosexuality

  by poopie in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  demo talking about view of girls comeing out as lesbian.

  comment was we respect lesbians.

  but i was thinking some do not respect a person enough to speak to them at kh if there df wow..

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  After joining this forum I have wondered a lot about my conversations with the "Elder". When we first met I made it very clear knowing he was religious and how religious people can sometimes be, I said "I do not ever want to hear your views on the gay community, I am not gay but I am very active in the gay community. If you are not ok with this we need to part company now."

  We or I talked a lot about the gay community because I had a lot of gay dads and the majority of my clients were gay. So a lot of the conversations with the "Elder" included things that went on with me and gay men. He never objected to these conversations and seemed to clearly understand why I have a deep love for friends, they were there when my mother and sister never were.
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  Being a Rude Jerk, It's Awesome!

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. family

  maybe it's a british thing, but we tend to be polite.

  too polite.. even if someone is inconsiderate, we apologize as though we did something wrong.. prime offenders?

  people in supermarkets, specifically costco.. they have nice wide isles and yet somehow, for some reason, some idiot will find a way to put their trolley sideways and keep a hand on it while reaching for something, thus blocking the entire isle.. or another favorite ... you're going through the entrance and someone just stops, maybe to answer their phone.. how about you wait in a queue at a checkout for ages and when it's their turn, then they start looking for their purse.. how many times have you thought "idiot" or muttered under your breath?.

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  rebelfighter

  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=7zK8iOnDPFo

  I hope this posted correctly
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  Attention all leaders of corporate organisations under threat!

  by Half banana in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  imagine you are on the governing board of a religious organisation with around eight million subscribers and an annual income of approximately a $billion (well it used to be!).

  you are about to be handed a mass of legal cases against you for concealing your negligent practice of concealing paedophiles in your congregations---followed by the prospect of a cascade of damning publicity?

  do you admit you were wrong and apologise unreservedly?.

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  rebelfighter

  Is there a country with zero JWs and zero extradition, that is where the GB should head hide out for the remainder of their life.
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  I am a Living Time Machine

  by TerryWalstrom in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  which world is this?_________________when the doctor pulled my screaming body out of mom all those 7 decades ago, i landed in a post-wwii world.it was--compared to today's world--an alien planet.. the world i live in today has nothing in common with the world in which i grew up.. there were no cell phones back then--there were black telephones with a dial-tone and an operator who placed your call.

  everywhere you found telephone booths!

  a call was a nickle.where did all those telephone booths go?i dunno.where did my whole world go?i dunno.. tv sets were huge boxes with tubes and small screens.

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  Finkelstein,

  Yes that tv and the rabbit ears. Have never forgotten Sunday night programs.

  Oh and that washing machine. Actually I love antiques and I have seen a few of those in a few shops.