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  Can't live with...Can't live without....

  by JWFreak in

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  ok i am just a newbie.

  but when your eyes are opened to lies that you believed you whole life...40 years and more.... it makes you angry, sick to the stomach and empty.

  everyone i know....i mean everyone is a witness....what a mess i am in.. .

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  Thanks guys
  
  It is encouraging that so many have disentangled themselves successfully.
  
  I have an elders meeting later today, and I just feel so angry and depressed. Best not to go, and do some thinking....You see I don't want to lose my family etc
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  Can't live with...Can't live without....

  by JWFreak in

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  ok i am just a newbie.

  but when your eyes are opened to lies that you believed you whole life...40 years and more.... it makes you angry, sick to the stomach and empty.

  everyone i know....i mean everyone is a witness....what a mess i am in.. .

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  Ok I am just a newbie. But when your eyes are opened to lies that you believed you whole life...40 years and more.... It makes you Angry, Sick to the stomach and empty.
  
  Everyone I know....I mean everyone is a witness....What a mess I am in..
  
  How ever thanks to all the posters who have welcomed me and offered some advice.
  
  A BIG thank you to THIRDWITNESS. Your ramblings trying to defend the indefensible...was what really opened my eyes. The Society is just so so wrong So again a BIG BIG Thank you
  
  JWF
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  Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??

  by Seeker4 in

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  i'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).

  and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.

  people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!

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  Ok Thanks Big Tex for your encouraging words :)
  
  Doubting Bro It is good to hear from another in the same boat as me....Good Luck ( Can I say that LOL)
  
  This weekend I feel that I am in a real quandry.
  
  I will just keep reading others experiences.....and see what happens....
  
  JWFreak
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  Some info for all the newbies re:The Best of series

  by Lady Lee in

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  it was brought to my attention earlier this morning that perhaps the best of section of the board wasn't well-known to many of the new people here.. i made the suggestion that every now and then we can post a reminder to those who are looking for particular info and how some of it can be found in the best of.

  a couple of years ago i started an index of sorts with some of the best threads on jwd.

  it is a series of links to threads so you won't find the info in the series but you will find a list of links to the threads.

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  Great work Makes my searching a LOT easier Many Thanks
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  Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??

  by Seeker4 in

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  i'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).

  and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.

  people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!

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  AuldSoul
  
  I can confirm that you are correct, regarding advice by telephone. Even though the advice came from someone very well known to me.
  
  I am sure he would deny everything to protect himself.
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  Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??

  by Seeker4 in

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  i'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).

  and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.

  people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!

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  Hi Alan
  
  It was a child abuse case that I was involved in 6 months ago. All the advice from the Legal Department seem to conflict with common sense, I was asked to gather the evidence from the minor involved. Who was I to talk to a minor about such matters, no training etc . So I refused. which caused a great deal of trouble for me.
  
  I was then sent a link to this forum, and a few months of lurking, made me realise things are not quite right.
  
  The debates with ThirdWitness also helped me to see the folly of the Societys stance on things
  
  JWF
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  ok 4th post

  by JWFreak in

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  well i have jumped in now.

  so how can i find the most interesting posts.

  re child abuse and the un issue.

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  Well I have jumped in now. So how can I find the most interesting posts. re child abuse and the UN issue. The Search facility seems to be broken and there are 1000,s of posts. So can you please link the best ones Thank you
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  Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??

  by Seeker4 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).

  and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.

  people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!

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  JWFreak

  ps I seem to have trouble with formattimg...I use Firefox
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  Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??

  by Seeker4 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).

  and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.

  people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!

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  Ozziepost What an interesting thread. There's a good vibe here and something to be said for the old adage mild answers. I appreciate the contributions of lurkers taking the plunge. I remember myself over 4 years ago posting for the first time. Good for you. I am very curious, however, and I would be interested in hearing from any active JW on this. When I left, kicking and screaming from the rooftops in the late 80's, I left over the issue of child abuse. I was shocked to discover the Society's position. As a result, I did research and asked honest, tough, but legitimate questions of the elders in my congregation, my wife's congregation, 3 CO's, the DO and eventually Bethel. The fact that no one was able to answer my questions forced me to leave. Although I received responses (many times angry), no one could really give an answer, if you take my meaning. 4 months ago I would have fought you tooth and nail, but it is like my eyes have been opened. Maybe my visit to Borea will help me.
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  Say You're a Bethelite & Monitoring JWD - How Would You Feel About THESE??

  by Seeker4 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm talking about the new posters, like kitten whiskers, who started posting today (hope this works: http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/120817/1.ashx).

  and it seems like we're getting a few like this nearly every day.

  people who were raised jws, really worry that they are doing the right thing in leaving, yet who have been made to feel not good enough by the wts, who felt they never measured up, who struggled with it, but came to realize that what they'd been brought up to believe was just not the truth.. the same stories are told over and over again, and they come from sincere, good people - not whiny, fault-finding apostates like the rest of us riffraff around here!

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  Wow I cant believe that I am doing this I am also a lurking elder, MTS Graduate who has not had the guts to post before Well here I am.............Lets see how this goes LOL JWF