Posts by dubla

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Has the WTS ever made a prediction that came true?

by Leander in

jw
friends

this morning a thought occured to me "has the society ever made a prediction or prophecy that has come true"?.

most of us are familiar with the prophecies or dates the wts has emphasized in the past.

of course all of those predictions never proved to be accurate so the question is, "if this is god's prophetic organization where is the proof"?.

dubla

yet you continue to post to me

bantering back and forth with you and actually getting answers for valid questions are two different things. i continue to post, yes. showing your ignorance can be amusing, regardless of the answers or lack thereof that you provide.

and please dont give me the
"i can only hope that you will"...response

oh, i dont have to hope. you always reply, and you always make yourself look worse with each one. in this thread alone for instance, youve shown us all the true colors of a "witness", if indeed you still call yourself one.

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Has the WTS ever made a prediction that came true?

by Leander in

jw
friends

this morning a thought occured to me "has the society ever made a prediction or prophecy that has come true"?.

most of us are familiar with the prophecies or dates the wts has emphasized in the past.

of course all of those predictions never proved to be accurate so the question is, "if this is god's prophetic organization where is the proof"?.

dubla

nytel-

hardly, i wish i could feel sorry about your mom.. but i dont.
she was good dead or not....

im quite sure she was, and this is a very sad attempt at getting to me. i give you kudos for showing your true colors though.

"do unto others as they have done unto you"
just as you had felt no pity for me during the events of ny.

i never spoke specifically to you about your feelings on the events of ny, so this argument is mute. i do pity all that were affected though, and ive done what i can to help.

as far as your little pathetic "do unto others" analogy, even if i wouldve shown you less than pity about ny, are you saying that speaking of getting my dead mother up the a** would be a good equalizer in this situation? you are demented son, but i expect that of a fence rider. i was there once, and i know the pain and confusion you must have penned up inside of you. once you choose your path and truly follow it, you will be much closer to peace with yourself.

i have grown accustomed to your name calling when you dont
get the answers you want...

i dont expect to get answers from you nytel. i realize that when there is no response to give, you have no choice but to talk in circles, as all jws do. as far as "name calling", i really dont see it that way. i have not labeled you with all sorts of expletives, i have merely pointed out the obvious.

it's always the last resort of
the desperate

again, i must point out the obvious, but im sure youll take it as "name calling" again (this is due to maturity level no doubt). the last resorts of the ignorant are to change the subject or ignore the questions, which is exactly what youve done in every conflict/argument/discussion ive ever been engaged in with you.

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Has the WTS ever made a prediction that came true?

by Leander in

jw
friends

this morning a thought occured to me "has the society ever made a prediction or prophecy that has come true"?.

most of us are familiar with the prophecies or dates the wts has emphasized in the past.

of course all of those predictions never proved to be accurate so the question is, "if this is god's prophetic organization where is the proof"?.

dubla

by the way, i see alot of good points have been brought up since yesterday when i left, and i see nytel has ignored them all in true nytel form. when there is no reply to give though, what is one to do?

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82

Has the WTS ever made a prediction that came true?

by Leander in

jw
friends

this morning a thought occured to me "has the society ever made a prediction or prophecy that has come true"?.

most of us are familiar with the prophecies or dates the wts has emphasized in the past.

of course all of those predictions never proved to be accurate so the question is, "if this is god's prophetic organization where is the proof"?.

dubla

nytel-

my mother has passed on. is this the type of language the witnesses are using now? (its been awhile since ive been to a meeting, but it sure has changed). you are a hypocrite to the highest degree. im sorry if having your intelligence insulted hurts your feelings that severly that you feel you need to lash out, but its hard not to comment on someone as yourself who is so obviously ignorant. every time we get into a discussion, you talk yourself in circles, and contradict yourself repeatedly, making your stupidity known to all.

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Has the WTS ever made a prediction that came true?

by Leander in

jw
friends

this morning a thought occured to me "has the society ever made a prediction or prophecy that has come true"?.

most of us are familiar with the prophecies or dates the wts has emphasized in the past.

of course all of those predictions never proved to be accurate so the question is, "if this is god's prophetic organization where is the proof"?.

dubla

God lays it all out pretty clearly in Deut. 18:20-22.
If you claim to be speaking for God, and what you say doesn't happen, you are a FALSE PROPHET. No allowances made for messenger vs. predictor.

yes, great point. lets quote that for emphasis:

(kjv)

18:20
But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die.

18:21
And if thou say in thine heart, How shall we know the word which the LORD hath not spoken?

18:22
When a prophet speaketh in the name of the LORD, if the thing follow not, nor come to pass, that is the thing which the LORD hath not spoken, but the prophet hath spoken it presumptuously: thou shalt not be afraid of him.

-even nytel cant argue with the fact that the society has indeed spoke things "in the name of the lord" and those things surely fall under the umbrella of "follow(ed) not, nor came to pass".

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Has the WTS ever made a prediction that came true?

by Leander in

jw
friends

this morning a thought occured to me "has the society ever made a prediction or prophecy that has come true"?.

most of us are familiar with the prophecies or dates the wts has emphasized in the past.

of course all of those predictions never proved to be accurate so the question is, "if this is god's prophetic organization where is the proof"?.

dubla

which goes back to my ORIGINAL question then, doesnt it nytel?? it can be like watching a dog chase its tail talking with you people......wondering, can he be that stupid??

MY ORIGINAL QUESTION(s) TO YOU NYTEL WAS/WERE:

youre saying gods true prophets "often" predicted future events, BUT, the society has never claimed to "predict". is that correct? so none of gods true prophets have ever been involved with the society? or the true prophets of the society just werent part of the prophets that "often" predicted future events? please explain.

again, i imagine these thought processes are just too much of an overload for your small brain capacity, but this is what im saying: is the society the exception to the rule then? are they gods prophet, but not a "predictor" (not part of the "often" that was described earlier)? and if thats the case, is there a reason for this new form of prophet that doesnt "predict"?

geesh, it wasnt that tough a line of questioning the first time. you really make things hard on yourself.

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82

Has the WTS ever made a prediction that came true?

by Leander in

jw
friends

this morning a thought occured to me "has the society ever made a prediction or prophecy that has come true"?.

most of us are familiar with the prophecies or dates the wts has emphasized in the past.

of course all of those predictions never proved to be accurate so the question is, "if this is god's prophetic organization where is the proof"?.

dubla

nytel-

thank you for ONCE for not beating around the bush. lets recap:

has the society ever claimed to "predict"?.................

so obviously you claim the society does NOT "predict".

Often, but not always, God’s true prophets predicted future events.

here we see that you claim gods true prophets do "often...predict".

ok jdub
personal opinion
society
true prophet- messenger --yes

now we see that you do believe the society to be gods "true prohet".

true prophet-predicter --no

contradicting oneself is common among jws. it goes hand in hand with talking in circles. very common traits, and i would expect no less of you.

oh, i looked up the definition of stupid to see if i could concur:

stu·pid (stpd, sty-)
-Slow to learn or understand; obtuse.
-Tending to make poor decisions or careless mistakes.

yep, from my dealings with you to date, id say you fit the bill nicely. i know i know, next time im in ny, blah blah....

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Has the WTS ever made a prediction that came true?

by Leander in

jw
friends

this morning a thought occured to me "has the society ever made a prediction or prophecy that has come true"?.

most of us are familiar with the prophecies or dates the wts has emphasized in the past.

of course all of those predictions never proved to be accurate so the question is, "if this is god's prophetic organization where is the proof"?.

dubla

nytel-

okay, ill simplify my question and hopefully you can answer it: do you or do you not, personally, think that the society has been or is included in what you referred to as "gods true prophets"?

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82

Has the WTS ever made a prediction that came true?

by Leander in

jw
friends

this morning a thought occured to me "has the society ever made a prediction or prophecy that has come true"?.

most of us are familiar with the prophecies or dates the wts has emphasized in the past.

of course all of those predictions never proved to be accurate so the question is, "if this is god's prophetic organization where is the proof"?.

dubla

nytel-

you missed my point entirely, as you usually do.

as regards to the society claiming to predict, I have yet to see
a statment where they have claimed that dates such as 1975 came through
a revelation..

did you or did you not just finish telling everyone that "often" gods true prophets "predict"? so was/is the society part of these "true prophets" that "often predict" or not?

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82

Has the WTS ever made a prediction that came true?

by Leander in

jw
friends

this morning a thought occured to me "has the society ever made a prediction or prophecy that has come true"?.

most of us are familiar with the prophecies or dates the wts has emphasized in the past.

of course all of those predictions never proved to be accurate so the question is, "if this is god's prophetic organization where is the proof"?.

dubla

nytel-

Often, but not always, God’s true prophets predicted future events

so let me get this straight, and please correct me if ive got it wrong.......youre saying gods true prophets "often" predicted future events, BUT, the society has never claimed to "predict". is that correct? so none of gods true prophets have ever been involved with the society? or the true prophets of the society just werent part of the prophets that "often" predicted future events? please explain.

and question, when c.t.r. proclaimed himself to be a prophet, was he speaking in greek or english? just wondering. english definition of the word:

prophet: A person who speaks by divine inspiration or as the interpreter through whom the will of a god is expressed; A predictor; a soothsayer

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