simon-
ah, the famous bait and switch. so you got called on your little fabrication about the u.s. supplying mustard gas to saddam, and now you want to talk about anthrax? the majority of what youve given as your "proof" there, were articles detailing deliveries of anthrax (and similar samples) to iraq, which is already known as fact by all, and i have no desire to argue against them (which by the way, it was perfectly legal at the time for iraq to have such samples, just as the majority of countries around the world do. using them in weapons is a different story). i suppose if your argument now is that saddam gassed the kurds with anthrax, then kudos on proving me wrong, lol.
as far as the links that do talk of chemical weapons......my poor boy, if you took these articles at face value as "fact", i am honestly embarrassed for you. personally, i wouldve taken you for smarter than that, but perhaps you are just so blinded by your personal agenda that you cant tell obvious propaganda when you see it (and yet youll scream and cry about how bad fox news is ). ill give some examples from your links that sound, er, less than credible.
from the link on: USA SOLD IRAQ WEAPONS OF MASS DESTRUCTION
SECRET DEAL
The US Defence Secretary, Donald H. Rumsfeld, is a strong supporter of president Bush's plan to invade Iraq, yet a few years ago he personally helped to supply Iraq with biological and chemical weapons!
Donald H. Rumsfeld attended a secret meeting with Saddam Hussein in Iraq on behalf of the US government in December 1983, and agreed to sell Iraq weapons of mass destruction and arranged a loan to give Saddam Hussein the money to buy them. At that time, Iraq was using weapons of mass destruction against its neighbours, and the US not only allowed this but actively supported it.
oh yes, rumsfeld attended a "secret meeting" (not secret enough for this savvy reporter though), and agreed to sell iraq wmd....etc. surely you are intelligent enough to recognize a nonsense statement when you see it, arent you? i was very curious to see the source behind this fabrication, so i skipped to the bottom of his article. youll be amazed at what i found:
Washington Post" newspaper article (USA)
Title: "U.S. had key role in Iraq build up"
Author: Michael Dobbs
Date: 30 Dec 2002
Page: front page
"Among the people instrumental in tilting U.S. policy toward Baghdad during the 1980-88 Iran-Iraq war was Donald H. Rumsfeld, now defense secretary, whose December 1983 meeting with Hussein as a special presidential envoy paved the way for normalization of U.S.-Iraqi relations. Declassified documents show that Rumsfeld traveled to Baghdad at a time when Iraq was using chemical weapons on an 'almost daily' basis in defiance of international conventions."
so from this, point "a", he somehow got to point "b": the secret meeting where we agreed to sell saddam wmd!! genius! you do realize how bad you kill your own credibility by using this, dont you?
from the link on: COVER STORY: How he US armed Saddam Hussein with chemical weapons
While the August 18 NYT article added new details about the extent of US military collaboration with Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein during Iraq's 1980-88 war with Iran, it omitted the most outrageous aspect of the scandal: not only did Washington turn a blind-eye to the Hussein regime's repeated use of chemical weapons against Iranian soldiers and Iraq's Kurdish minority, but the US helped Iraq develop its chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programs.
when i read this, i was very interested to find out just how we helped them build their chemical weapons program (i thought perhaps this was indeed your proof that the u.s. government supplied the mustard gas to saddam).....so i read on, searching for this amazing evidence. i read on, and on, and on (the whole article is basically a biased version of the iran-iraq war story).....finally i found the evidence provided:
A 1994 US Senate report revealed that US companies were licenced by the commerce department to export a “witch's brew” of biological and chemical materials, including bacillus anthracis (which causes anthrax) and clostridium botulinum (the source of botulism). The American Type Culture Collection made 70 shipments of the anthrax bug and other pathogenic agents.
The report also noted that US exports to Iraq included the precursors to chemical warfare agents, plans for chemical and biological warfare facilities and chemical warhead filling equipment. US firms supplied advanced and specialised computers, lasers, testing and analysing equipment.
again, you can see this is nothing more than propaganda, surely? (im trying to give the benefit of the doubt that maybe you didnt actually read this nonsense before you posted it)........so supposedly this senate report "noted" that we sent saddam "plans for chemical and biological warfare facilities and chemical warhead filling equipment"!! holy cow, how was this info surpressed? i searched and searched for the source of this new evidence....guess what? no sources provided. oh well, dead end...i guess we can just take it as fact without further research, eh? thats good enough for me chap!
i couldnt get into the last link you provided (page cannot be displayed), so perhaps thats where your glorious proof awaits me (i highly doubt it). ZERO of the information you provided showed any proof of the u.s. government supplying saddam with mustard gas agents (hmm....maybe because it never happened?). why cant you just admit that you either a) fabricated, or b) made a mistake? is it above you? you and william are quite the characters.....what a tangled web we weave.........
btw, did you bother to read the cnn article i posted? if so, whats your take on it? does it look to you like the majority of the precursors came from u.s. companies, or otherwise? and according to the article (and allegations), how many of them came directly from the u.s. government?
one last thing:
I think the reason Simon is singling out the USA from that list is because USA started the war in Iraq, not any of the other countries.
It was just to answer the claim that the USA had not supplied chamical weapons when of course we know they had.
you singled out the u.s. to begin with, which is why the claim was ever made (by me) concerning chemical weaopns.....if you need links to your own posts, let me know. why would you single out one country? like i told william, it shows your agenda.
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