Posts by dubla

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WORLD OF LIES COMING UNRAVELED

by You Know in

some historians date the beginning of the end of the soviet empire to the chernobyl disaster, for the reason that for several days after the explosion, as the radioactive cloud floated quietly over europe, the soviet government said nothing to warn people of the dangers that may have minimized some of the exposure.

it ruined their credibility, from which they never recovered.

presently, the whole capitalist system has an even worse credibility problem.

dubla

yk-

are you serious? thats it? LOL, tell me theres more. again, lets review your outright LIE that you refuse to comment on.

cygnus said:

The Society for many years after Chuck assumed room temperature strongly maintained that Russell was the wise slave of Matthew 24:45

to which you replied:

That can't be true.

either admit your error, or admit your lie, its quite simple.

now your new statement:

Whether some of Russell's pet ideas were discarded sooner or later doesn't matter. Rutherford moved the Watchtower forward.

so which is it? is it not in fact true that the society continued teaching that russell was the slave for years after he died, or is it in fact true, but "doesnt matter"? you cant have it both ways. to steal one of your analogies....if this were a dance contest, youd be racking up some serious points for your two-step around the actual lie you told back there. again, you are transparent to the intelligent reader.

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Edited by - dubla on 28 June 2002 15:51:6

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by morloc in

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don't you ever check your email?

morloc

dubla

i gotta admit yk, that was pretty damn funny. i actually did "lol".

jokes aside now, why do you take the time to post this nonsense, but still ignore the mess you got yourself into on the last thread? you constantly tell us all how there is supposedly nothing an "apostate" can throw at you that you cannot respond to, yet alan and i both have proven you a liar on seperate occassions, and you cannot muster a response to either of us. pathetic.........maybe you should stick to the nonsensical jokes like that last one.....i think stand up might be a better path for you .

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WORLD OF LIES COMING UNRAVELED

by You Know in

some historians date the beginning of the end of the soviet empire to the chernobyl disaster, for the reason that for several days after the explosion, as the radioactive cloud floated quietly over europe, the soviet government said nothing to warn people of the dangers that may have minimized some of the exposure.

it ruined their credibility, from which they never recovered.

presently, the whole capitalist system has an even worse credibility problem.

dubla

What's the game plan here ~~Dubula~~ you know, are you just going to hide out until this thread scrolls away so as to save yourself any more humiliation? / ~~You Know~~

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155

WORLD OF LIES COMING UNRAVELED

by You Know in

some historians date the beginning of the end of the soviet empire to the chernobyl disaster, for the reason that for several days after the explosion, as the radioactive cloud floated quietly over europe, the soviet government said nothing to warn people of the dangers that may have minimized some of the exposure.

it ruined their credibility, from which they never recovered.

presently, the whole capitalist system has an even worse credibility problem.

dubla

How about it ~~Dubula~~ youknow, aren't you even going to try and weasel out of the mess you got yourself into? LOL / ~~You Know~~

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155

WORLD OF LIES COMING UNRAVELED

by You Know in

some historians date the beginning of the end of the soviet empire to the chernobyl disaster, for the reason that for several days after the explosion, as the radioactive cloud floated quietly over europe, the soviet government said nothing to warn people of the dangers that may have minimized some of the exposure.

it ruined their credibility, from which they never recovered.

presently, the whole capitalist system has an even worse credibility problem.

dubla

alan-

thanks for the all the info......after reading your post, i actually remembered back to your original debate with yk on the topic, it was one of the first things i read on this forum, and i think i was only lurking at the time. as was the case then, im sure yk wont have an intelligent rebuttal to your proofs of his lies, but your work is appreciated and beneficial to the reader nonetheless.

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WORLD OF LIES COMING UNRAVELED

by You Know in

some historians date the beginning of the end of the soviet empire to the chernobyl disaster, for the reason that for several days after the explosion, as the radioactive cloud floated quietly over europe, the soviet government said nothing to warn people of the dangers that may have minimized some of the exposure.

it ruined their credibility, from which they never recovered.

presently, the whole capitalist system has an even worse credibility problem.

dubla

yk-

i find it interesting that you are actually addressing me personally once again.......i figured youd still be ignoring me as you have been since i embarrassed you on these two threads:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=30085&page=3&site=3

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=29888&page=8&site=3

and i especially find it interesting that you are addressing me personally, given that these are your true and honest feelings about me:

I should wake up to the fact that I am dealing with a complete moron

You are truly pathetic. The only reason I might have to be embarrassed is that I have taken so much time trying to reason with a delusional lying fool. / You Know

You are one of the worst cases of brain-lock that I have ever come across.

you are a a lying delusional fool.

I have known a few pathological liars before who would believe there own lies. Apparently you are one of those.

but be that as it may, here you are targeting me once again with your supposed "proofs" of why the economy/dollar is "doomed". its just too damn tempting to respond to me, isnt it? lol.....anyhow, on to your latest babble.........your first link was nothing more than one mans opinion of the annual benchmark revision process. you know, if the gdp gets revised downward, it wont be the first time....you act as if this is some great revelation! lol, its old news, and standard procedure. as far as your second link goes, ive never denied that the dollar was overvalued (in fact im pretty sure i said as much at one point, but ill have to go back and check)....what i have said is that your idea of the dollar completely collapsing to worthless is absurd and ridiculous, and i stand by that. your little article about the dollars current fall doesnt prove otherwise, its risen and fallen a million times, just as the market. again, you act as if this is new news....everyone who watches the markets knows the dollar has been falling for months. let me know when its worthless....then you can say thats what you "have been saying all along". and let me add this, when the dollar starts rising again, and doesnt indeed become worthless as you imagine it will, then just "move on to the next one", lol.

i also find it interesting that once again on this thread you have been proven either A) very foolish about your own religion, or B) a complete liar (im voting for "b"). cygnus said quite simply that for years after russell died the society still taught that he was the faithful and wise slave of matthew 24. to that you responded:

That can't be true. The Russellites no doubt maintained that Russell was the slave both before, and after his death, but they were the ones who turned out to be apostates.

now, given the fact that alanf has posted specific articles showing that the wt did indeed teach that russell was the wise slave, years after he died, my question(s) for you is(are): were the russellites writing/editing the wt at the time of these articles? if it "cant be true", who was the "society" in your mind, if not the writers of the wt? do you have any response whatsoever to this complete proof that your statement, "that cant be true", is undeniably false? i doubt you do, as you rarely (read: never) have a response when caught in a lie. ignore it and move on yk, but the lurkers can see through you.

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Edited by - dubla on 28 June 2002 12:17:18

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WORLD OF LIES COMING UNRAVELED

by You Know in

some historians date the beginning of the end of the soviet empire to the chernobyl disaster, for the reason that for several days after the explosion, as the radioactive cloud floated quietly over europe, the soviet government said nothing to warn people of the dangers that may have minimized some of the exposure.

it ruined their credibility, from which they never recovered.

presently, the whole capitalist system has an even worse credibility problem.

dubla

alan-

hows it going? havent talked with you in awhile...hope all is well. anyhow, on the current topic:

You want quotes from Watch Towers up through at least 1925 to prove it?

if you get some free time, i wouldnt mind reading the specific quotes. unfortunately i havent had the personal time to go back and research as much into the old wts as id like to, but i know youre a bit of an expert on the subject....and its pretty apparent that yk likes to spout with no proof. example:

That can't be true.

if you would post the wt snippets proving this statement completely false, it would be beneficial i think to any lurkers who are still holding on to a shred of yk credibility. perhaps it would even show yk how foolish his blind statements are........(yeah right, hell find a way to weasel out of it in his normal serpent-like fashion.)

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155

WORLD OF LIES COMING UNRAVELED

by You Know in

some historians date the beginning of the end of the soviet empire to the chernobyl disaster, for the reason that for several days after the explosion, as the radioactive cloud floated quietly over europe, the soviet government said nothing to warn people of the dangers that may have minimized some of the exposure.

it ruined their credibility, from which they never recovered.

presently, the whole capitalist system has an even worse credibility problem.

dubla

the nice thing for gloom and doomers, is the fact that there will ALWAYS be lots of "reasons" to be negative about this or that, the economy, corporate america, global crises, wars, natural disasters, etc, etc, etc, etc...........if y2k doesnt a disaster make, then move on to the next one. if the central banks dont go bankrupt in january 2002, move on to the next one. if japan doesnt liquidate all its u.s. equities and crash the market, move on to the next one. if pakistan and india dont go nuclear after all, move on to the next one. OH, worldcom, and volatile markets....the perfect time for another dose of gloom and doom!

the so-called economic "recovery."

well, its not so-called, its a fact. you see, economic recession and economic recovery are calculated terms, not just nonsense as yk would have us believe. click here for a respite from the negative news that yk tosses around to serve his scare tactics >>> http://money.cnn.com/2002/06/27/news/economy/economy/index.htm

Each day brings new revelations of massive corporate fraud that has resulted in billions of dollars being lost by investors.

and each new corporate fraud exposed brings us one step closer to a new form of corporate accounting regulation that in the long haul will only make our economy that much stronger.

, the world markets are, again, melting like an ice cream cone in July.

melting? ah, thats a bit of an exaggeration isnt it? of course, this is coming from the same poster who tried to convince us that the market action last september was the onset of a major crash........and instead the market rallied (as it always does) some 2000+ points.

Now, though, confidence in the game is lost

dont you know thats when bottoms are set into place? surely yk, with all your vast knowledge of the markets, you realize that when there is nothing but bad news, no buyers, and the last remaining investors decide its time to throw in the towel, this is where market bottoms are made. we do not have a definite bottom set in place as of yet.....the dow could drop to 5000 and it wouldnt surprise me one bit. history shows though, that when everyone decides its time to give up on the market, thats when the real bulls start to run again. of course, this time is different, right? of course it is, lol. and if the market rallies this year, and overcomes the negative news its staring at right now....then just move on to the next one.

aa

Edited by - dubla on 27 June 2002 13:33:29

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WORLD OF LIES COMING UNRAVELED

by You Know in

some historians date the beginning of the end of the soviet empire to the chernobyl disaster, for the reason that for several days after the explosion, as the radioactive cloud floated quietly over europe, the soviet government said nothing to warn people of the dangers that may have minimized some of the exposure.

it ruined their credibility, from which they never recovered.

presently, the whole capitalist system has an even worse credibility problem.

dubla

That's top secret too. LOL / You Know

ah, of course....shouldve known.

actually, the reason you cant answer the question is because of what ive already laid out, namely that this idea of a "target audience" is nothing more than a ruse. for one thing, members of this "target audience" could only reach you by posting on a thread (considering your email is private), and how often do we really see this "target audience" posting to you? hmmm.....how about next to never, if ever. its a deceit tactic, to make it look as if you actually have a purpose here other than the mindless ridicule of "apostates". again, it is obviously fulfilling some sick need you have to belittle others (while shouting your gloom and doom blubberings of course)......but hey, at least it serves a purpose for the lurkers, to see you (a supposed jw) constantly discredited and exposed.

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WORLD OF LIES COMING UNRAVELED

by You Know in

some historians date the beginning of the end of the soviet empire to the chernobyl disaster, for the reason that for several days after the explosion, as the radioactive cloud floated quietly over europe, the soviet government said nothing to warn people of the dangers that may have minimized some of the exposure.

it ruined their credibility, from which they never recovered.

presently, the whole capitalist system has an even worse credibility problem.

dubla

yk-

"Do not give what is holy to the dogs" is the exact injunction if you must know. / You Know

and yet youve said more than once that your "target audience" is not us "apostates", or "dogs".........so, when your "target audience" is reached through your post, and a member of that "target audience" contacts you privately and asks you for the specifics, do you (or would you) divulge this top secret information to them? or do you treat them as undeserving "dogs" as well? just wondering. personally, i believe your talk of a "target audience" is a complete lie, and i think its pretty obvious you are indeed targeting "apostates" to ridicule and argue with.....it seems it gives you some sort of sick satisfaction to constantly laugh at and belittle the majority of the posters who respond to you......and yet you accuse us of being mere "ridiculers", which i will continue to point out as hypocrisy.

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