Telemetry11
My apologies. I don't know enough about that particular aspect to comment.
a few weeks ago, these two jovies turned up on my doorstep.
being in a good mood that particular day, i told them that if they could prove that god existed, i'd become a jovie - and i meant every word.. they gave me two documents which they asked me read and told me that they'd be back in a week.
the first was called "was life created?
Telemetry11
My apologies. I don't know enough about that particular aspect to comment.
please take pity on me someone and help.. i was going to say that i suffer from aspergers syndrome but actually, i've come to rather enjoy it.. no, seriously, i really do have aspergers which is why my posts may seem a little odd to some of you.
ok, they may seem bloody odd to most of you.. my world exists in a binary frame.
things are or they are not.. i know that in the "real world" things might be or might not be as well as are and are not.
DarioKehl
My name is upper case D and all the rest of the letters are lower case.
I used to bother and try to use facial expressions but I was told that they looked 'false'. One can't win in this world. So, I gave up using facial expressions and life went back to being simple for me. I found it tedious trying to feign interest in something that bored me witless.
I can't look at people and listen to them at the same time. I can do one or the other but not both. That means I can listen to you OR I can read your body language but I can't do both. So, I don't know that you are joking sometimes and therefore take everything literally.
I can't look at people and talk to them at the same time. I can do one or the other but not both. That means I can talk to you OR I can look at you but I can't do both. So, if I talk, I have to look somewhere else other than at you. Otherwise, If I look at you, I start reading your body language which means that I have to stop talking. So, if I say something that offends, I have no way of knowing.
People like me usually have few friends but, the ones we have, can most definitely be relied on, as can we.
I call a spade a spade. If you act like a twat, I'll call you a twat. If you don't want me to call you one, don't act like one.
I don't like people making illogical and emotional decisions. I just find it so bleedin' irritating and there's no excuse for it.
Above all else, there is freedom.
I have the right to offend - just as you do.
If you get offended by things that I do and say, that's your call. You have the right to get offended but don't blame me. You also have the right not to get offended and you can exercise that right just as easily. The choice is yours - not mine.
After freedom comes fairness. People need to act in a fair and consistent manner. If they don't, I will retaliate. I ALWAYS retaliate. ALWAYS.
I find relationships interesting. People seem to get terribly upset when a relationship ends though quite why I don't really understand. If someone wants to be with me, that's fine. If someone doesn't want to be with me, that's fine too. They have that right. I have no wish to be with someone who doesn't want to be with me. I don't see the point. I can be with people or not be with people. Both situations have their positive and negative points. My take is that if you don't like me and who I am, stay away. I couldn't care less one way or the other.
I find people strange - very strange. People come to me for solutions to problems. I provide them with an optimal solution. Then they tell me about the caveat. So, I give them a sub-optimal solution but they complain because the solution isn't optimal.
I don't like rules for the sake of having rules and I dislike people following rules without understanding why they are following them. People aren't automatons yet and there's no excuse for acting like one.
I am a people watcher. I've learned that people don't know what to do when someone like me comes along and won't play by their rules. We are just expected to play by their rules. When we don't, they have no idea what to do. They just kind of stop and look sort of puzzled. I find it hilarious. What's more is, few people will actually challenge me so, in effect, I can break most of the rules that I want to without any effect. We have rules in place that people follow but few rules in place for when those rules aren't. There was a time, for example, when I could go into a travel agent and tell them what kind of a holiday I wanted. They would then provide me with a list of suitable holidays. I would then discount some because they weren't suitable and pick one of the remaining ones. Try that nowadays. All you'll get is some 17 year old who asks which holiday you'd like to book. My answer is, if I knew which bleedin' holiday I wanted to book, I'd have done it on line and saved myself 10%. What I need help with is what's out there in the way of suitable holidays and what is it that the brochure isn't telling me? They have a set of rules that they use to book a holiday once one has been selected but no rules whatsoever for helping people to select a holiday. There's a lot of services going this way now. People used to come to me for advice before buying a PC. I used to ask them a few questions which told me what memory they'd need, how much disc space they'd need and how fast the processor needed to be. I'd then point them to the right model. If you go into a PC shop these days, you'll now get some 17 year old kid telling you that this PC comes in a choice of 3 colours. However, if you ask him what the processor speed is, this glazed look will come across his face. I was looking at a PC in a shop not long ago and this 17 year old kid asked me if I needed some help. I asked him what the mip rating was of the PC, cruel twat that I am. Off he went to find the manager. Neither returned. Presumably, neither had a clue.
Being an atheist isn't a choice I made, it's a conclusion that I came to which was as natural as breathing. I was never baptised. My parents decided to leave it up to me when I was old enough. I've never believed in god. I see no point. If someone can prove that a god exists, then I will believe. I'm not stupid. god is an emotional response to the human condition, I think. I'm not emotional. I don't need god. Why would I believe in something that man made up to satisfy his emotional needs? If people want to satisfy their emotional needs, get a puppy or a kitten or a teddy bear. They are probably a lot less bothersome and a whole lot more reliable - especially in the case of the teddy bear.
I don't see any of these issues as challenges. I see them as being part of me and who I am.
your going to enjoy the latest rumor i heard why i have not been to meeting for around nine months, i am a homosexual!
i was caught having a drink at one of the gay bars for business, yes people still talk business in bars.
revelation 17:4).and murderers, and fornicators (cf.
Shit people
I have just read this thread. One reads about this sort of thing happening in loony land and in the way out sects but in 2015 in the JWs?
There ought to be laws against this.
And these people claim to be christian?
Brain washed - yes. christian - no.
It kinda reminds me of a friend of mine, Linda, from way back when. Let's put it this way, she had the most wonderful personality but she was no miss world. I loved spending time with her though. We'd just drink, listen to vinyl and just smoke stuff we shouldna. Hey ho, youth and sadly missed.
I went off to Uni, came back to the village that I was brought up in just long enough to pack a bag, say goodbye to Linda, and off I went in search of the bright lights.
Linda and I stayed in touch. I was over the moon when she wrote that she'd found 'someone'. In an odd kinda way, I was a little jealous too.
Then I got a phone call from her one night. She was in a terrible state. I drove most of the night at crazy speeds but got there in one piece. At least the roads were quiet.
When I saw Linda, I hardly recognised her. She was in a hell of a state.
She'd met this guy and fell in love. The only issue was that he was a very private person. Too private at times for Linda. She thought, at one time, that he was married or had another girlfriend because some nights she just couldn't get hold of him.
Then, one night, he said, 'why don't you come with me?'
They ended up driving to a local wood. To cut a long story short, he was a member of the local witch coven and Linda was on the menu that night. Yes, such things existed then and still do today.
She made a run for it and got in the car and left him.
That was when all the trouble started. They would call her on the phone in the middle of the night - and then hang up. They broke into her house when she was at work. They did't steal anything but they did move things around the house - even the furniture. This went on and on for months. Bit by bit, they broke her down. They took her milk from her doorstep that the milkman had left and then brought it back when it had gone sour. They nailed a chicken to her door one day. Then, her beloved tabby cat, Timmy, got the same treatment. That's when she called me.
I asked Linda to pack a suitcase and we drove back to my place. She stayed for a week or so. It was so sad. The old Linda had been driven away.
The following weekend, a few of us took Linda back and sorted the issue out. They didn't bother her again but she was never the same person.
A couple of years later, Linda was diagnosed with breast cancer. I often wondered just how much that episode in her life had contributed to it.
Five years later, the cancer returned and we lost a very special lady.
I think that if I were an ex-Jovie, I wouldn't care what they did to me because I'd start to circulate a few of my own rumours. In fact, I'd probably enjoy the incident and use it for some much-welcomed sport. However, I also recognise that not everyone is like me and, I guess, that's what Jovies count on. They exploit the emotional weakness in people. Now that is cruel. I can stoop pretty low and, at times in my life, have done. But, never that low. That's below the salt.
please take pity on me someone and help.. i was going to say that i suffer from aspergers syndrome but actually, i've come to rather enjoy it.. no, seriously, i really do have aspergers which is why my posts may seem a little odd to some of you.
ok, they may seem bloody odd to most of you.. my world exists in a binary frame.
things are or they are not.. i know that in the "real world" things might be or might not be as well as are and are not.
Cantleave
They say that a picture says a thousand words. In your picture, there were at least 10,000.
so man was made by god in his image was he?.
so the human body was intelligently designed was it?.
you are kidding me !!.
Stuckinarut2
Now, you KNOW how a witness would answer this? "oh its there so that when we are brought back to perfection in the new world paradise, that DNA will serve a valuable function of some sort..."
So even when I've died, the evil Jovies are gonna wake me up to torment me some more? Is there no justice in this world, ffs?
so man was made by god in his image was he?.
so the human body was intelligently designed was it?.
you are kidding me !!.
LisaRose
Why do we have redundant DNA? The coding is there, but it's not functional. In evolutionary terms it's an advantage, as some of it might be be useful at some point, but if we we designed to be perfect, why the junk DNA?
Evolution ====> Functional
Design ======> Perfection
so man was made by god in his image was he?.
so the human body was intelligently designed was it?.
you are kidding me !!.
Spectre
External testicles. Who was the idiot that thought that would be a good idea?
External testicles was god's idea and it must be the right idea because god came up with it because he created man (in his own image). So there.
It's another classic case of evolution in action. It works, well kinda, but it ain't pretty.
please take pity on me someone and help.. i was going to say that i suffer from aspergers syndrome but actually, i've come to rather enjoy it.. no, seriously, i really do have aspergers which is why my posts may seem a little odd to some of you.
ok, they may seem bloody odd to most of you.. my world exists in a binary frame.
things are or they are not.. i know that in the "real world" things might be or might not be as well as are and are not.
Steve 2
I presume you mean:
Mundus vult decipi, ergo decipiatur?
- The world wants to be deceived, so let it be deceived.
i have posted questions on christian web sites.
those questions have always been polite and i have never used questionable language.
the questions weren't exactly in support of christians though.. what did i get for my efforts?.
Kairos
I suspect that you are right.
please take pity on me someone and help.. i was going to say that i suffer from aspergers syndrome but actually, i've come to rather enjoy it.. no, seriously, i really do have aspergers which is why my posts may seem a little odd to some of you.
ok, they may seem bloody odd to most of you.. my world exists in a binary frame.
things are or they are not.. i know that in the "real world" things might be or might not be as well as are and are not.
Tenacious
Ask any scientist to estimate the chances of the aforementioned happening and it becomes unrealistic.
Please go away and read about science.
Then read about evolution.
Then read about statistical probability.
Then, instead of putting all of these in the context of the "next ten minutes", try placing them in the context of "millions or even billions of years".
Then, you might finally see that, given the time scales involved, even events which are astronomically low in probability become highly probable.
That's the problem with religtards. They take statements and place them in the wrong context deliberately so that people are deliberately misled.
Yes, the possibility that life would develop anywhere in the universe is remote at best and any scientist will tell you that.
Yes, given how long the universe has existed (13,800,000,000 years) and how vast it really is and how many accidental attempts must have been made to create life, it's not surprising that life developed somewhere in the universe. See the Drake equation folks. In fact, it's more than probable that life exists elsewhere in the universe, not just on Earth. AND SCIENTISTS WILL TELL YOU THIS TOO - except that Tenacious isn't telling us this part of the story. He just tells us the part that he wants us to hear and which supports his version of the truth. That is typical religtard tactics.
Oh, and for the record, only 9% of scientists here in the UK believe in god and that number is falling.
Ain't that so Tenacious?