i have an oldish phone - a samsung galaxy s3.
i don't feel the need for anything faster or better because i don't use it a ton.
i hardly ever call anyone or have anyone call me and it's mostly used for emergency remote access to the forum, to play the odd game and to text the kids to let them know i'm picking them up or they want to be picked up from somewhere (maybe i should sign up as an uber driver?
Heaven
A long time ago, I learned that people only use 20% or fewer functions of any system.
80% are bells and whistles that a) aren't necessary and b) you don't use and wouldn't use anyway.
I worked in IT all of my life. Systems don't run any faster because all we do is add more functionality which isn't required in most cases.
I ain't spendin' a penny buying something that a) I don't need and b) I wouldn't use even if I had it.
I'm with you kid.
it is time for christians to accept evolution, in my opinion.. there are many reasons why i think it is long overdue for all christians to finally accept what science says about evolution.
below i will show these reasons.. .
the bible tells people to pay attention to nature to see the glory of god (psalm 19; romans 1:19-20).
FT
Well, we can start with this: Are there any professional historians who say Jesus and Paul were not real people who existed?
What? er - YES!
Where have you been living? Mars?
Type Dr Richard Carrier into Youtube, watch and listen. You may learn something.
At about the time of jesus, they were fusing two or more religions together to form a new one. But, that wasn't the only thing they were up to. They were personalising deities too. But, that wasn't the only thing they were up to. They were converting their 'heavenly' gods and giving them Earthly existences. Ever wondered why a lot of the things that happened to jesus also happened to some of the gods before him such as being born of a virgin and rising from the dead and having 12 disciples? Do you really believe in coincidences to that extent?
Ever wondered why the Josephus text was amended by early x-tians?
I don't have issue with Ehrman but things have moved on.
it is time for christians to accept evolution, in my opinion.. there are many reasons why i think it is long overdue for all christians to finally accept what science says about evolution.
below i will show these reasons.. .
the bible tells people to pay attention to nature to see the glory of god (psalm 19; romans 1:19-20).
FT
How do we know Jesus or the disciples viewed Adam as a literal person who actually existed?
Whoa there musky. Let's not get ahead of our selves.
First, we have to establish that jesus and his disciples existed, no?
i have an oldish phone - a samsung galaxy s3.
i don't feel the need for anything faster or better because i don't use it a ton.
i hardly ever call anyone or have anyone call me and it's mostly used for emergency remote access to the forum, to play the odd game and to text the kids to let them know i'm picking them up or they want to be picked up from somewhere (maybe i should sign up as an uber driver?
Heaven
'ancient' phone to run better.
Ancient phone?
I have a Samsung E800 which, the guy at EE told me on Sunday, is 10 years old and it still has it's original battery and it still works fine.
i foolishly downloaded an innocent looking pool game, and now i'm pretty certain this is how my p.c.
has been infected by a malware program called pixel.mathtag - i won't complete the full web address, just in case!.
my internet banking account was deleted, (i assume it was the malware's doing!
TS
I've just Googled it and there's a whole heap of web sites that tell you how to get rid of it. Are you saying that none of the methods work?
a few weeks ago, these two jovies turned up on my doorstep.
being in a good mood that particular day, i told them that if they could prove that god existed, i'd become a jovie - and i meant every word.. they gave me two documents which they asked me read and told me that they'd be back in a week.
the first was called "was life created?
Cantleave
Remember that cults thrive on providing simplistic answers to complex questions to people who are too lazy to do their own research.
It's not just 'simplistic' answers that they provide. It's 'misleading' answers too.
of these, over 2,000 were admitted to concentration camps.
1,000 died in prison and concentration camps.
another 1,000 of jehovah's witnesses died in prisons and concentration camps.".
WTS & Trustworthy in the same sentence?
Yeh, right.
my experiences have included being lied to about what the bible says.
mind you , i am not referring to scripture twisting, i mean out right lying about what is written.. obviously at least some here didn't realize until it was later.. just wondering what others experienced.. thanks.
The interaction that I've had with jovie world has led me to believe that it isn't so much lying that's at issue, it's more a case of :
It's not just the above that's at issue though. It's far more clever than that. What jovie world does is to slowly but deliberately build misconception upon misconception and, pretty soon, one has a totally skewed view of the world that bears no relation whatsoever to reality.
Based upon this approach, the only logical conclusion that one can draw is that the jovie way is the truth and that god exists and is as jovie world portrays him to be.
I've read a lot of jovie literature and it's quite clever too. What it does is to ask questions of the reader in such a manner that there is only one answer which appears to be logical. There is nothing wrong with the answer, given the way that the question is framed. However, there is everything wrong with the question because the framing is invalid and set in such a way that what appears to be the logical answer is, in fact, incorrect. Again, jovie literature builds incorrect answer on incorrect answer until, pretty soon, the only logical conclusion that one can draw is that the jovie way is the truth and that god exists and is as jovie world portrays him to be.
May no mistake, someone in jovie world has thought it through.
a few weeks ago, these two jovies turned up on my doorstep.
being in a good mood that particular day, i told them that if they could prove that god existed, i'd become a jovie - and i meant every word.. they gave me two documents which they asked me read and told me that they'd be back in a week.
the first was called "was life created?
Punkofnice
Yup. They couldn't answer you so they relied on the WBT$ propaganda. It is hell being in a cult!
I think what annoyed me most was the insult. To think that someone would believe the BS in their two documents isn't treating the reader with respect. It assumes that the reader lacks knowledge and is gullible.
well, i don't wanna rant too much but sometimes things cut you don't they.. a family member had a get together for the family, jw and non jw and of course i wasn't invited being da'd.. i understand why they couldn't invite me but it just made me think.
in normal society this wouldn't happen.
i'd have been there.. the shunning is so unnatural and damaging.
Punkofnice
Why shouldn't you rant? If we didn't rant occasionally, we'd go mad.
I'm sorry to hear your tale. It's such a pity that an entity that preaches love, understanding and peace would act in this manner. IMHO, it's below the salt.
That said, did you really need convincing that jw's are a cult?
