i have just learned that there was another jw suicide in western washington (south king county) last weekend.
the man was a young adult, in good standing, married and doing well financially.
i can't reveal more, and this one didn't hit the news either.
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Edited by - dungbeetle on 1 July 2002 1:33:44
how many of us xdubs are glb or t?
(gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender).
this weekend i'll be celebrating with friends and "family" over burgers and beer!
Okay, while I'm in a researching mood:
http://www-2.cs.cmu.edu/afs/cs.cmu.edu/user/scotts/bulgarians/rainbow-flag.html
The first Rainbow Flag was designed in 1978 by Gilbert Baker, a San Francisco artist, who created the flag in response to a local activist's call for the need of a community symbol. (This was before the pink triangle was popularly used as a symbol of pride.) Using the five-striped "Flag of the Race" as his inspiration, Baker designed a flag with eight stripes: pink, red, orange, yellow, green, blue, indigo, and violet. According to Baker, those colors represented, respectively: sexuality, life, healing, sun, nature, art, harmony, and spirit. Baker dyed and sewed the material for the first flag himself - in the true spirit of Betsy Ross.
Baker soon approached San Francisco's Paramount Flag Company about mass producing and selling his "gay flag". Unfortunately, Baker had hand-dyed all the colors, and since the color "hot pink" was not commercially available, mass production of his eight-striped version became impossible. The flag was thus reduced to seven stripes.
In November 1978, San Francisco's gay community was stunned when the city's first openly gay supervisor, Harvey Milk, was assassinated, Wishing to demonstrate the gay community's strength and solidarity in the aftermath of this tragedy, the 1979 Pride Parade Committee decided to use Baker's flag. The committee eliminated the indigo stripe so they could divide the colors evenly along the parade route - three colors on one side of the street and three on the other. Soon the six colors were incorporated into a six-striped version that became popularized and that, today, is recognized by the International Congress of Flag Makers.
In San Francisco, the Rainbow Flag is everywhere: it can be seen hanging from apartment windows throughout the city (most notably in the Castro district), local bars frequently display the flag, and Rainbow Flag banners are hung from lampposts on Market Street (San Francisco's main avenue) throughout Pride Month. Visiting the city, one can not help but feel a tremendous sense of pride at seeing this powerful symbol displayed so prominently.
Although the Rainbow Flag was initially used as a symbol of pride only in San Francisco, it has received increased visibility in recent years. Today, it is a frequent sight in a number of other cities as well - New York, West Hollywood, and Amsterdam, among them. Even in the Twin Cities, the flag seems to be gaining in popularity. Indeed, the Rainbow Flag reminds us that ours is a diverse community - composed of people with a variety of individual tastes of which we should all be proud.
how many of us xdubs are glb or t?
(gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender).
this weekend i'll be celebrating with friends and "family" over burgers and beer!
from http://www.sbu.ac.uk/stafflag/pridehistory.html
The first lesbian and gay pride march in the USA took place on 28th. June, 1970 in New York City and four other cities, commemorating the Stonewall Rebellion a year earlier. In New York the march started in Waverly Place near Sheridan Square in Greenwich Village and proceeded to Central Park, with about 2000 people taking part. About 1200 people took part in the march in Los Angeles. (Stewart (1995), page 200.)
The first marches in London were organised by the Gay Liberation Front (GLF). The first ever public gay protest in Britain took place on 27th. November 1970 when approximately 80 GLF members gathered for a torchlight demonstration on Highbury Fields in what was then the working class area of Islington. " 'I went along, it was Friday night - and we were given candles and we marched around the field several times', recalls Professor Jeffrey Weeks of the South Bank University." (Northmore and Steel (1998).)
In August 1971 the GLF organised a further public event when members marched along Islington's Upper Street back to Highbury Fields. This was an exclusively GLF event but led to the first real Pride in London in 1972. A colour photograph of Simon Watney at the 1971 event is reproduced in Northmore and Steel (1998). Stewart (1995), page 200, has a description of this 1971 march ending with a rally in Trafalgar Square, protesting against the unequal age of consent for gay men (21).
The first march in London billed as Gay Pride was held on 1st. July, 1972. About 2000 lesbians and gays marched down Oxford Street to Hyde Park, (see a black and white photograph the Gay Pride week rally in Trafalgar Square in Richmond and Noguera (1979), page 164). (Jivani (1997), page 170; Miller (1995), page 390; Spencer (1995), page 369).
The 1973 London Gay Pride was organised by the Campaign for Homosexual Equality (CHE).
Subsequent annual London events were organised by an ad hoc committee.
In the early days Gay Pride was not universially appreciated by homosexuals, some of whom preferred to live the quiet life (Spencer (1995), page 371). Some of the older men calling themselves 'queer' objected to the new use of 'gay', and to the fact that their secret world was being exposed to the wider society. On an occasion when a London Gay Pride march passed the Colherne public house in Earl's Court, (see a black and white photograph in Jivani (1997), page 167), the patrons pelted the marchers with beer cans. (Healey, et al (1994), page 101).
Throughout the late 1970s and early 1980s the attendance at London Pride events rarely exceeded 1000, but by the time the festival transferred to Jubilee Gardens in 1986 the attendance had risen to about 10000.
In 1985 the number of marchers on the London Pride parade swelled to 15000 as it included contingents from mining communities returning the solidarity and support of lesbians and gay men during the 1984-5 miners' strike. A colour photograph of the 1985 London Lesbian Pride is reproduced in Northmore and Steel (1998).
By 1988, when Section 28 became law about 40000 people attended the London Pride event.
The late 1970s and 1980s saw the rise of Lesbian Strength which scheduled a separate march.
how many of us xdubs are glb or t?
(gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender).
this weekend i'll be celebrating with friends and "family" over burgers and beer!
Maybe this will help:
InterPride is a not-for-profit organization (incorporated in the USA) whose membership consists of organizations in cities, towns and countries all over the globe that produce community-based Gay, Lesbian, Bisexual, and Transgender Pride events. InterPride's main goals are to:
InterPride's history goes back to 1981, when a few lesbian and gay pride organizers in the United States met during a leadership conference, and realized that they could solve some of the difficult problems faced by their individual organizations by working together. By 1982, the informal working relationship was formalized, and the National Association of Lesbian and Gay Pride Coordinators was founded. Representatives from committees from 6 large US cities were at the organization's first meeting in Boston, Massachusetts, USA, that year.
By 1987, the organization had become international with the inclusion of representatives from Canadian pride groups and underwent a name change, becoming the International Association of Lesbian and Gay Pride Coordinators, or IAL/GPC. In 1992, European and Mexican organizations participated, and IAL/GPC had become multi-continental. International participation grew significantly during the annual conference held in New York City in 1997, where attendees included representatives from Africa, South America, Australia, New Zealand, and six European countries. By 1999, as the organization's membership became more international, the organization underwent another name change, becoming InterPride - a name that is readily translated into any language.
Today, InterPride has over 120 member organizations, representing 24 countries from 6 continents, but its goals remain those defined above. InterPride accomplishes these goals through four main tools.
First, InterPride holds an annual conference of Pride coordinators/organizers. This conference, which began with the original six delegations, has now grown to the point that the 2000 conference in Atlanta, Georgia, USA, had over 180 representatives from 60 delegations based in 15 countries. Attendees meet to conduct the corporate business of InterPride, to review the state of Pride throughout the world, to select the International GLBT Pride Theme, and to share information and resources concerning operations and the logistics for the planning and production of their Pride events in their home town, city, state or country. Workshops range from the mundane (how to get permits; how to build a Rainbow Balloon Arch) to the esoteric (how to do organizational strategic planning; how to retain volunteers). The 2001 conference will be held in Auckland, New Zealand, from October 4 through 7, marking the first time the conference will be held in the Southern Hemisphere.
Second, InterPride has established 20 regions around the world, which enable Pride Coordinators to network among themselves on a more regular basis and to work to solve specific problems as they happen. Many of the regions host annual or semi-annual conferences, where business and objectives specific to the region are discussed. InterPride officers usually attend these conferences both to share and collect information from around the world. In 2001, regional conferences will have been held in 5 US-based regions, in Canada, in Europe (by EPOA, the European Pride Organizers Association), and in the South Pacific.
Third, on an as-needed basis, InterPride licenses the title "World Pride" to a specific city, usually in order to give significant and broad-based concerns increased publicity. In 1997, in response both to the Vatican's Millennium 2000 campaign and to widespread discrimination against the GLBT community in Italy, InterPride licensed the first World Pride title to Rome, Italy. This first World Pride, organized and produced by Circolo Mario Mieli in Rome with support and assistance by InterPride, took place in July 2000, and culminated in an international Pride March of over 700,000 through the streets of Rome. Following the success of that event, Israel has requested and been tentatively granted a World Pride license for 2004.
Fourth, InterPride maintains a website (www.interpride.org) that contains information about the organization, its conferences, and a "Global Pride Calendar". As of April 2001, this Calendar contains information about community-based GLBT Pride events produced by over 150 organizations in 23 countries - and the entries continue to pour in. InterPride does not require membership in the organization to list an event in this Calendar, but does extend benefits to organizations choosing to be members.
The story of Lesbian, Gay, Bisexual, and Transgender Pride events is a story of growth. The first Pride events were held in a handful of American cities to commemorate the rebellion of a small number of gay men and lesbians against police raids and brutality in New York City. These events attracted only a few thousand people in total. Thirty-two years later, InterPride members alone will organize events around the world that will draw a combined attendance of between 15 and 20 million. These activities will range from the mega-events in places like Sao Paolo, New York, Toronto, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Sydney, and Vienna, to picnics or rallies attracting a few hundred people in Hampton Roads (Virginia), Harare (Zimbabwe), and Curitiba (Brazil). No matter what size an individual event is, however, together they represent the strength and commitment of people around the world who are determined to achieve, maintain, and expand the rights of GLBT people to be who they truly are. And no matter where they are, InterPride will be there to offer help.
how many of us xdubs are glb or t?
(gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender).
this weekend i'll be celebrating with friends and "family" over burgers and beer!
outlaw, I do not know if you are joking.
how many of us xdubs are glb or t?
(gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender).
this weekend i'll be celebrating with friends and "family" over burgers and beer!
generally heterosexuals as a class don't get beaten, raped, tortured and murdered because of their heterosexuality.
a good goal would be that gay pride would no longer be an issue, and it will help when gays are not beaten, raped, tortured and murdered becasue of their lifestyles.
how many of us xdubs are glb or t?
(gay, lesbian, bisexual, or transgender).
this weekend i'll be celebrating with friends and "family" over burgers and beer!
(((((((( John W and all the commonbond -ers ))))))))))))
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there's just too much risk...especially if your life is in the hands of these officials:.
http://news.ninemsn.com.au/health/story_34571.asp.
in defense of NP: 1 Sam. 14: ; (NWT;)
:24 And the men of Israel themselves were hard pressed on that day, and yet Saul put the people under the pledge of the oath, saying: "Cursed is the man that eats bread before the evening and until I have taken my vengeance upon my enemies!" And none of the people tasted bread.
26: When the people came into the woods, why Look! there was a dripping of honey, but there was no one putting his hand to his mouth, because the people were afraid of the oath.
28:..(and the people began to get tired)
29: However, Jonathon said "My father has brought ostracism upon the land. See, please, how my eyes have beamed becasue I tasted this little bit of honey.
30 How much more so if the people had but eaten today from the spoil of their enemies that they found!"</P>
31 And on that day they kept striking down the Philistines ...and the people got to be very tired.
32 And the people began darting greedily at the spoil and taking a sheep and cattle and calves and slaughtering them on the earth, and the people fell to eating along with the blood
33 So they told Saul, saying "Look! The people are sinning against Jehovah by eating along with the blood..."
Saul was so obviously an absolute idiot in dire need of lessons in interpersonal relationship skills and methods of communication. Anyway, later, Saul ordered the people to set up altars and slaughter the animals and eat them after having properly bled them.
Later, Saul decided that Jonathon should die because of the 'little bit of honey he had tasted". The people intervened, however, and so Jonathon was spared. ; I think relations between father and son went downhill from that day.
1) It DOES appear that the Israelites were famished, and although they may not have been 'starving' in the sense we usually think of (such as the large-bellied African children we see images of all the time) it does appear they might have been weak from heavy fighting. ; I would also venture to guess that eating the animal flesh unbled may have given them fluids as well, as thirst is a much faster killer and greater weakener than being without food. ; In any case, it does not seem the Israelites would have fallen to eating unbled meat without some emergency being present.
2) If it was NOT an emergency situation, would that not so much ;MORE make NP's case? If God allowed it in a non-emergency, then he certainly would not forbid it in an emergency, and on behalf of a child as well?
I think this is a very powerful reasoning tool and example to use with JW's, one of the best I've ever heard; In the "Insight on ;the Scriptures"book, page 871 says:
<In the progress of the campaign against the Philistines, Saul pronounced a curse upon anyone partaking of food before vengeance was executed on the enemy. This rash oath led to adverse consequences. The Israelites tired, and though they triumphed over the Philistines, their victory was not as great as it might have been. Famished, they did not take time to drain the blood from the animals they afterward slaughtered, thereby violating Gods law concerning the sanctity of blood. Not having heard his fathers oath, Jonathan ate some honey. Saul, therefore, pronounced the death sentence upon him. But the people redeemed Jonathan, for he had been instrumental in Israels gaining the victory.1Sa 14:1-45>
NP's statement is backed up by Watchtower itself. ; There are no adverse consequences from eating the unbled meat.
my may 19th posting "please help..." had almost 800 readers.
for this i am thankful.
nevertheless, i'd welcome feedback on why no one wanted to help.
<We need lawsuits to back up the claims made in the media but fail to support these lawsuits financially because we have become too jaded by our past.>
pathofthorns, what the h**l are you talking about.
Who has 'not supported a lawsuit' on this board? Let alone your 'reasons' for this supposed 'non-support'. I have found JW's, non-JW's and ex-JW's nothing BUT supportive, as a class and as individuals.
My advice to the originator of this thread is to GET an EMAIL somehow. No excuses, find a way to get one. Hotmail is never ON your computer, just don't save your password. Get a friend to do your email for you. This is a serious problem that you need to find a solution for.
My other advice is to get a free webpage, or if free is not big enough, a cheap one a few dollars a year. Sometimes you can divide your material between several free websites and link them together, such as the free homepage on yahoo, a free one on geocities, and jpegs put up on a pic hosting site. (as an example) Even if no one has money (I do not right now) there are some who who might volunteer time or webpage building expertise to you for such a worthy cause. Perhaps someone has some webspace they pay for that they will donate a part of to you. There are places on the web where you can get free webpage building info as well.
You could start putting up some generalized info about your case, and yourself. YOU are the one who needs and wants the money, YOU have to put out first.And lastly, find a way to get a paypal account. Put a link to that just like Simon, Kent, and Randy have done for their pages.
So, to summarize: GET a free webpage. PUT up your stuff. PUT up a paypal link. ASK for and be willing to accept other kinds of help.
I wish someone like you all the best in your endeavors.
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we have a bigg artikel in km abot our wuie on how to treat them in diffrent situations, not so much new things, but they confirm this harder treatment on dfd, as we have 1981.. not so happy for this, i think it is a bigg misstake to dont take this occasion to change to some more loving wuie.i can not follow why they do like this perhaps they are draw this to the end of the lione, but who are take the punnish for this, if not the averge jw, who i think dont like this so very much.. so i can not follow who they think, perhaps we have wolfs among us, who hurt ther members.. .
'happy man' and I quarrel a lot and bicker a lot on this board, but the one thing he has expressed a viewpoint on, similar to mine, is the hardline shunning issue.
((((((((((( happy man )))))))))))
