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  WT Paranoia Over Apostates

  by DakotaRed in

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  while reading another thread on apostates, i did a quick search on the word apostate on the wt cd.

  these people are really paranoid about us!.

  *** it-1 127 apostasy ***.

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  dungbeetle

  Beck: I stole it from D8TA.

  Still trying to get over your way. If I live long enough, I will make it.

  (((( DR )))))

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  Bum Fights

  by simplesally in

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  omg..... i was watching tv and there is a new video out and its about las vegas bums/homeless people.

  these guys go out and pay homeless people to do stupid things like fight with each other, jump into garbage bins, set their hair on fire.

  there was even a spoof on the alligator guy who wrestles them (the guy from australia).

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  dungbeetle

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=27495&site=3#352001

  I wish these poor men had gotten something out of it is all. If I were there, I would buy some food and pass it around to them untill they couldn't eat another bite.

  Never mind them; III would feel better.

  <sigh>

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  DATELINE DATE

  by Frenchy in

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  someone on another board posted that the long awaited dateline story will air may 28. i don't know how she knows she just posted it and so i thought i would put it here in case someone else has heard something.

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  dungbeetle

  bttt

  Nothing is so hilarious as to look at my monitor screen and watch seven of these littel 1000 mile men marching across my screnn.

  And they all fall down at the same time. Splatt!!!

  I have NO life....

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  WT Paranoia Over Apostates

  by DakotaRed in

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  while reading another thread on apostates, i did a quick search on the word apostate on the wt cd.

  these people are really paranoid about us!.

  *** it-1 127 apostasy ***.

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  dungbeetle

  was just thinking, DR, about how you were sad that you couldn't be at Bill's 'gatherings' becasue it was too far away.

  I was thinking, don't worry, Watchtower will eventually get to someone in our part of the country. Then we can have a df'ing party supreme! We just keep going you know, each df'ing party bigger than the one before, have a contest and a Df'ing Party of the Year award...

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  WT Paranoia Over Apostates

  by DakotaRed in

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  while reading another thread on apostates, i did a quick search on the word apostate on the wt cd.

  these people are really paranoid about us!.

  *** it-1 127 apostasy ***.

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  dungbeetle

  Same here, DR...and it took me a lot lot longer to realize than you.

  <sigh>

  >If someone is sincerely interested in whether criticism of the Witnesses is based on fact or fiction, your own well-founded knowledge is usually sufficient to supply an answer.—<

  Bwahahahahaha..

  if the Watchtower trolls/apologetics we get on here are any indication of well-founded knowledge...

  Bwahahahahahah...

  I needed a good laugh!!!

  (((((DR))))))

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  New to the board

  by PointBlank in

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  i've been lurking for a few days, trying to get a feel for the board.

  h2o used to be my regular hangout.

  boy, has that place changed.

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  dungbeetle

  heya, I'm not from H20, I'm from Tishies' old board (Now Randy's).

  Welcome, my email's open if you need it.

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  Maybe this is how JW's justify molestations

  by LizardSnot in

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  it just occurred to me that jehovah's witnesses are the only "bible based" religion.

  (i will not call them christians...more like jehovahians) that i've found that.

  recognizes lot as a good person.. i remember growing up reading about lot and his wife in the "my book of bible stories".. a couple of years ago while studying the bible on my own...i read about how after lot.

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  I guess Lot was so pissed at losing two perfectly good workers--oops I mean--sons-in-law, and his wife, and all his material possessions, he decided to h*ll with being righteous, look where it had gotten him so far anyway...

  and partied hearty!!!

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  NASHVILLE TENNESSEE

  by recoveringexjw in

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  if u live in or around nashville please reply thru the post

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  Yay, you Tennessee people ROCK!!!

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  Did Satan prove God wrong? a possible bibical flaw

  by Leander in

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  most people are familiar with the account of job where satan makes the claim that the only reason humans serve god is because of selfish reasons.

  god allowed satan to test this theory on job, so job was beset by numerous trials but he refused to give up on god or blame him in anyway.. it would appear that satan was proved wrong in this particular bible account but was he really?

  would the majority of mankind follow jobs example if they were faced with similar trials?

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  I think the account of King David and the death of his child with Bath-sheba may very well have lost something in the translation into English and from there into other languages (worse yet).

  We here in the US say 'sunrise' and 'sunset'. But the sun does not rise and set. It is merely a cultural expression.

  Another expression that is used all over the world, for thousands of years, is 'he was taken by God' or 'went back to God', especially when referring to babies. It has to do with recognizing that our life force came originally from God, passed on through out human parents I suppose. In some cultural/religious groups, it is used to refer to the child actually going to heaven, that is not likely the case here. It isn't heard as much as it used to be, but you hear it sometimes. Older books are full of it.

  In one rendering, Nathan says "also the son who shall be born to you shall surely die." Nathan did not state to David that God would 'strike' the child, just that it would die.

  The literal English rendering is: "boy and Jehovah and struck his house and he who had wife borne..."

  I have to do some more research when I have time.

  God does not punish innocent children directly for the sins of their parents; sometimes they suffer indirectly, and God does not intervene. We see this all the time in very socioeconomically poor neighborhoods here in teh US and abroad.

  The only translation that makes sense is that the child was sick with a disease or condition that led to death. David begged God to intervene, but under normal conditions the child would have died anyway because Bath-Sheba would have been put to death for adultery (and her unborn child would die as well) as she was pregnant in the absense of her husband.

  Further support for the fact that the death of the child was not a direct punishment to David and Bathsheba was because their next child, Solomon, was destined to become King of Israel. It hardly makes sense to kill the first child of the adulterous couple and then go on to ordain the next child--of the same adulterous (tho now married) couple to kingship.

  So anyway, 'God struck the child' may not be a proper translation in the first place.

  And even if it was, it may be that when the child was born, something was SO wrong it was observable to the naked eye. Perhaps the child was sick and even in pain and was suffering. You can tell sometimes, a child is NOT going to survive without divine intervention, which David must have acknowleged and asked for. In fact please consider the English rendered account:

  The child was sick, and dying, and David fasted, and prayed, and would not eat. When the child had died, David rose, washed, changed clothes and ate. Unusual? Not if his child was suffering and in agony and in pain. His bahavior AFTER the child's death makes perfect sense in this regard, as David was relieved that his son was no longer suffering.

  All I'm saying is that some frames of references toward this account have more support than others, just by the standards of which we live our everyday life and the insights we have been able to gain, as a race, over the last couple of thousand years.

  As a parting thought, the child would be long dead by now no matter WHAT happened in that nursery.

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  WT PR-Writng Checks They Cannot Cash

  by silentlambs in

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  please refer to the 1989 boe letter:.

  that is the basis of establishing a known child molester.

  the second comment is also false as accused child molesters are not automatically removed from positions when accusations are made.

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  dungbeetle

  Thanks to ((((Outnfree))))

  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.asp?id=26969&site=3

  This is what I am getting from what I read from the .pdf file:
  These state MANDATE reporting by the clergy (16):

  CT, DE, FL, IN, KY, MS, NE, NH, NJ, NM, NC, OH, OK, RI, TN, TX

  These states do not list the clergy (19):

  AL, AK, AR, CO, DC, GA, HI, IL, IA, KS, LA, MA, MI, NY, SD, VT, VA, WA, WI

  These states list the clergy but give enough leeway for not reporting (16):

  AZ, CA, ID, ME, MD, MN, MO, MT, NV, ND, OR, PA, SC, UT, WV, WY

  These are listed as of December 31, 200 by the U.S. DEPARTMENT OF HEALTH AND HUMAN SERVICES

  To go and see what is written about your particular state, go to:

  * http://www.calib.com/nccanch/pubs/stats01/mandrep.pdf

  My understanding as a layperson may be a bit off so if you check your own state you may find it is written differently than what I understood it to be. And also this is from 2000. I don’t know if things have changed since then either. I will check some more.

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