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  Sometimes I Am Ashamed

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  does every issue of morality have to be compared with the thinking and teaching of jehovahs witnesses?

  simply because you are no longer jehovahs witnesses does that mean that you flaunt all moral authority and engaged in any perverted pleasure that you have a mind to?

  because your morality is no longer legislated by a pseudo religious organization does that give you license to engage in all acts of "immorality" and refer to it "as just having fun.

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  Hi Becky, I have noted your comments with interest. I don't know how I would have responded to that thread had I not been raised as a JW. I just know that it offended me.

  I apologize for using the word "degrade". I was trying to get a point across and I guess I used language that was to harsh. I too am trying to get over my JW past but I am not trying to get over my sense of morality, wherever that comes from. The thread started off okay, but as it went along people were pulling down their pants showing their behinds and one fellow was completely naked. If that is what you define as "tasteful" then, Becky, that is certainly your perogative. I personally thought it was offensive.

  also don't like to blame all of my actions on JW upbringing. Sometimes we are just the people we are. I have been thinking, maybe its the age difference. I am 38 years old and all of you are younger, I suppose? However, I believe I am excellent shape and I am also not bad to look at (long red hair, green eyes) and it would never occur to me to disrobe and show myself. Am I repressed sexually. Maybe. All things are relative, though, and I don't believe I am. That's why I believe the people participating in the forum should have respect for the personalties of all who share. I think maybe the point is that I believe that this forum is not the place to "flaunt" your sexuality. I may have fotgotten some questions you asked, if I did I ask that you please respond and remind me. Regards.
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  Sometimes I Am Ashamed

  by Dutchie in

  1. jw
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  does every issue of morality have to be compared with the thinking and teaching of jehovahs witnesses?

  simply because you are no longer jehovahs witnesses does that mean that you flaunt all moral authority and engaged in any perverted pleasure that you have a mind to?

  because your morality is no longer legislated by a pseudo religious organization does that give you license to engage in all acts of "immorality" and refer to it "as just having fun.

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  Animal, your opinion are prejudiced in favor of Naeblis and Valis and so can't be included in the count. LOL
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  Sometimes I Am Ashamed

  by Dutchie in

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  does every issue of morality have to be compared with the thinking and teaching of jehovahs witnesses?

  simply because you are no longer jehovahs witnesses does that mean that you flaunt all moral authority and engaged in any perverted pleasure that you have a mind to?

  because your morality is no longer legislated by a pseudo religious organization does that give you license to engage in all acts of "immorality" and refer to it "as just having fun.

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  Do they Outlaw. Well, I have never seen a witch, naked or otherwise! But I'll take your word for it!
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  Sometimes I Am Ashamed

  by Dutchie in

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  2. friends

  does every issue of morality have to be compared with the thinking and teaching of jehovahs witnesses?

  simply because you are no longer jehovahs witnesses does that mean that you flaunt all moral authority and engaged in any perverted pleasure that you have a mind to?

  because your morality is no longer legislated by a pseudo religious organization does that give you license to engage in all acts of "immorality" and refer to it "as just having fun.

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  Hi Insence, I appreciate your comments and I agree with you that freedom of expression is not immoral. However, I am not as jaded as you are when it comes to my responsibility to other people. I think we all have a responsibility to one another. I don't want to offend you in any way and I would like that same courtesy from you. Are we are brother's keeper? That in the age old question? We live in a time when total freedom is looked upon as being enlightened, as being modern. However, because I feel responsible to my neighbors and my friends I sometimes refrain from doing everything I might want to do. But that's just me.
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  Sometimes I Am Ashamed

  by Dutchie in

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  does every issue of morality have to be compared with the thinking and teaching of jehovahs witnesses?

  simply because you are no longer jehovahs witnesses does that mean that you flaunt all moral authority and engaged in any perverted pleasure that you have a mind to?

  because your morality is no longer legislated by a pseudo religious organization does that give you license to engage in all acts of "immorality" and refer to it "as just having fun.

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  Well, I think its your terminology Naeblis. "Playful" pictures of boobs? It wasn't the boobs that got to me truthfully. Its when people started pulling down their pants and showing their asses or when they became completely naked. Those were the pictures that were rather shocking to me. However, as I said before all things are relative and if your perception that things were done playfully whom am I to dispute that? Its just that I did not find it so. That's my perception. Am I not entitled to that?

  I don't think you can compare a discussion of witches and naked pictures. I don't know how to do that. Perhaps I am just not that smart but an intelligent study about the nature of witches seems to pose no problem for me. This is after all a discussion forum.
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  Sometimes I Am Ashamed

  by Dutchie in

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  does every issue of morality have to be compared with the thinking and teaching of jehovahs witnesses?

  simply because you are no longer jehovahs witnesses does that mean that you flaunt all moral authority and engaged in any perverted pleasure that you have a mind to?

  because your morality is no longer legislated by a pseudo religious organization does that give you license to engage in all acts of "immorality" and refer to it "as just having fun.

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  You're right, Dakota. I love Sargeant Schultz!
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  Sometimes I Am Ashamed

  by Dutchie in

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  2. friends

  does every issue of morality have to be compared with the thinking and teaching of jehovahs witnesses?

  simply because you are no longer jehovahs witnesses does that mean that you flaunt all moral authority and engaged in any perverted pleasure that you have a mind to?

  because your morality is no longer legislated by a pseudo religious organization does that give you license to engage in all acts of "immorality" and refer to it "as just having fun.

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  I don't understand what you are trying to say, Imbue. I believe in the freedom of speech. I always have and I haven't changed my mind. But thanks for pointing that out. This issue is not about the freedom of speech.
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  Sometimes I Am Ashamed

  by Dutchie in

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  2. friends

  does every issue of morality have to be compared with the thinking and teaching of jehovahs witnesses?

  simply because you are no longer jehovahs witnesses does that mean that you flaunt all moral authority and engaged in any perverted pleasure that you have a mind to?

  because your morality is no longer legislated by a pseudo religious organization does that give you license to engage in all acts of "immorality" and refer to it "as just having fun.

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  I can agree with some of the things you said. And I agree that everything is relative. I am not disputing that. I am just saying that for those of us who fall in the middle that a little discretion be exercised. We are not at war. We can respect each other's opinion and try to come to some understanding. I think that's fair don't you?
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  Sometimes I Am Ashamed

  by Dutchie in

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  2. friends

  does every issue of morality have to be compared with the thinking and teaching of jehovahs witnesses?

  simply because you are no longer jehovahs witnesses does that mean that you flaunt all moral authority and engaged in any perverted pleasure that you have a mind to?

  because your morality is no longer legislated by a pseudo religious organization does that give you license to engage in all acts of "immorality" and refer to it "as just having fun.

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  Bod, you are absolutely right. I did say that and I meant it at the time. I think people should be allowed freedom. However, the thread in question went just a little too far, in my opinion.
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  Sometimes I Am Ashamed

  by Dutchie in

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  2. friends

  does every issue of morality have to be compared with the thinking and teaching of jehovahs witnesses?

  simply because you are no longer jehovahs witnesses does that mean that you flaunt all moral authority and engaged in any perverted pleasure that you have a mind to?

  because your morality is no longer legislated by a pseudo religious organization does that give you license to engage in all acts of "immorality" and refer to it "as just having fun.

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  Valis, you must agree that it is a far cry from "biblical pablum" to "naked pictures". Will you admit that much. There must be some middle ground.