something on the song thread that i posted, song by tu pac, got me to thinking about racisim.
why do people discriminate against people that have different color skin?
i understand it is a learned response, but my "elder" father is very racist... and this is how i was raised.. i don't get it.
The Bell Curve's arguments is that some of the difference in mean IQ scores between the white European population of the United States and the African-American population (one full standard deviation of 15 points) is probably attributable to genetic factors.
So, is that not saying that blacks are inferior to whites?
something on the song thread that i posted, song by tu pac, got me to thinking about racisim.
why do people discriminate against people that have different color skin?
i understand it is a learned response, but my "elder" father is very racist... and this is how i was raised.. i don't get it.
so why get your panties knotted up when someone points out a problem?
That statement my friend is sexist and I am offended by it.
For your information, I don't mind if someone points out a problem to me.
For your further information, I do not have to agree with your points or the points of others.
something on the song thread that i posted, song by tu pac, got me to thinking about racisim.
why do people discriminate against people that have different color skin?
i understand it is a learned response, but my "elder" father is very racist... and this is how i was raised.. i don't get it.
The authors of The Bell Curve claimed that the IQs of blacks are 15 points lower than whites, a claim that most of the mainstream media has treated as fact simply because of their claim.
The book's presence tapped into the resurgence of overt racism in American society, and helped people back up their prejudices with ``scientific'' proof. It is no surprise that the Right has seized upon the book as justification for abolishing welfare and other social programs to the poor.
After all - they say - if Latinos and blacks are genetically doomed to fail, why should we give them money?
something on the song thread that i posted, song by tu pac, got me to thinking about racisim.
why do people discriminate against people that have different color skin?
i understand it is a learned response, but my "elder" father is very racist... and this is how i was raised.. i don't get it.
There are only "facts" because society accepts them as such.
So we should use these "facts" to denigrate a group of people?
So we pull out our tests and statistics to tell us that blacks are intellectually inferior and whenever someone contradicts these findings we wave our papers with the numbers in front of them.
Blacks should just stop right now attempting to achieve anything on an intellectual level because all of our "facts" and "statistics" tell us that they will either be menial workers or if they are real lucky, then a sports star.
Great.
Edited by - Dutchie on 4 August 2002 22:33:47
something on the song thread that i posted, song by tu pac, got me to thinking about racisim.
why do people discriminate against people that have different color skin?
i understand it is a learned response, but my "elder" father is very racist... and this is how i was raised.. i don't get it.
Thanks Larc,
I appreciate your comments.
However, just because these learned men used their statistics to prove their point, also does not make them right or fair.
I still believe that The Bell Curve is one of the most racist pieces of writing I have ever read.
something on the song thread that i posted, song by tu pac, got me to thinking about racisim.
why do people discriminate against people that have different color skin?
i understand it is a learned response, but my "elder" father is very racist... and this is how i was raised.. i don't get it.
Larc,
Because they say so, does that make them right?
something on the song thread that i posted, song by tu pac, got me to thinking about racisim.
why do people discriminate against people that have different color skin?
i understand it is a learned response, but my "elder" father is very racist... and this is how i was raised.. i don't get it.
Larc,
Statistics are, in my opinion, very often flawed. They are easy to juggle and too often they are used simply to prove an oh so flawed point..
I believe that statistics are much like the Bible. We can use them to prove anything that we want them to prove.
I think the whole system needs to be revamped. Just because these methods are widely used by professionals and are looked to with confidence by professionals does not mean that they should not be revamped.
If we use them to judge groups of people, as the authors of The Bell Curve did, and then people look to these authors as having accurately portrayed the worth of a group of people, then something is very wrong.
something on the song thread that i posted, song by tu pac, got me to thinking about racisim.
why do people discriminate against people that have different color skin?
i understand it is a learned response, but my "elder" father is very racist... and this is how i was raised.. i don't get it.
Further, they found that black IQ scores are so far below white IQ scores in their distribution as to preclude useful Affirmative Action Programs. The reason? Only 29,000 African Americans have IQ levels above 130 points, the minimal level found suitable for many executives in business. With 15+ million businesses in America, this leaves fewer than 1 theoretically qualified African American for each 500 businesses to serve as executives; however, more than 20,000 of these 29,000 African Americans are under 21 years of age and one-half of those precious few 9,000 African Americans who are presently above 21 years of age will never earn a university undergraduate degree. That leaves just 4,500 African Americans over 130 IQ points with a university degree to share among 15+ million companies. this is why Affirmative Action has aided white women and asians in achieving high promotions more than it has African Americans.
The types of jobs available for almost 28 million African Americans with IQ's below 115 points are typical menial positions such as janitorial work, cooking, common labor, carpentry, routine factory work, residential services, security, farming, retail sales, and lawn work. These were the natural choices of African Americans prior to Affirmative Action and continue to employ the vast majority of African Americans. It is believed by many economists that one of the reasons American manufacturers are moving overseas is the problem of African American economic expectation--e.g., African American low IQ levels, Affirmative Action unrealistic legal rules concerning African American promotions, and African American lawsuits over not being promoted regardless of their low IQ level, and the related quagmire of civil rights in the United States.
You truly believe that their writing are not racist? Please.............
something on the song thread that i posted, song by tu pac, got me to thinking about racisim.
why do people discriminate against people that have different color skin?
i understand it is a learned response, but my "elder" father is very racist... and this is how i was raised.. i don't get it.
Drahcir, yes, I''m sorry, the book was The Bell Curve.
When people read they come to different conclusions based on their experiences.
I thought the book was wildly racist and unfairly placed blacks in a poor light. To me, their conclusion that blacks were intellectually inferior to whites was racist and totally unfair.
They were nothing less that rednecked "Bubbas" with an ivy league education.
Yes, I believe that their statistics were flawed.
Edited by - Dutchie on 4 August 2002 21:25:58
something on the song thread that i posted, song by tu pac, got me to thinking about racisim.
why do people discriminate against people that have different color skin?
i understand it is a learned response, but my "elder" father is very racist... and this is how i was raised.. i don't get it.
Both authors of The Bell Tower, the most racist book I've ever read were Yale graduates.
