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mimimimi
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One of my nephews passed away this evening
by mimimimi inhe was 23 years old.
he was depressed and took his own life.
no one had any idea he was contemplating something like this.
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Facebook: Local Ruling By Elders in Nearby Congregation
by mentallyfree31 injust heard from a friend that a nearby body of elders in their congregation have decided that anybody who is on facebook will not be able to have privleges in their congregation.. hilarious!.
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mimimimi
They are idiots. This will definitely help some along the way on the road out.
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J-dub elders throwing a wrench in funeral services for my nephew
by mimimimi inas i said in my earlier post, my nephew took his own life yesterday evening.
my sister is a die-hard jw and this religion is her comfort more than ever right now, so she accepts everything they throw at her.
the elders will meet this evening and decide whether they will allow a memorial service at the kh.
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mimimimi
Wont Leave, THank you for putting those scriptures up. I am going to send them to my sister, Ryan's mom. DH and Rebekah, it was so great to see you at both memorials. Snakes - I am sorry you and Toni could not make it. I hope we can all get together sometime soon.
My brother who did the service had told my sisters privately earlier in the week that he believes suicide is not an unforgiveable sin, but that Ryan will be resurrected. Unfortunately, fear of JW's kept him from sharing that when he did his "talk". About Rich - Ryan's dad, reading the obituary at the start, my husband was going to do that and when Rich found out that is what was going to be done, he said he wanted to do it and just went ahead and did, which I was glad about. My sister did not know he was going to do that until it was done. I think she was all right with it, though. And truly, he had every right to do so for his son. They can take that disfellowshipping and put it where the sun doesn't shine.
DH, the disfellowshipped people did mingle among JW family and I think there were JW's who spoke to them. I was glad no one tried to make them unwelcome. Of course, elders and their families were not present at the meal afterwards. MOst of the witnesses there were the more downtrodden in the congregation, though not entirely. All in all, I think the whole thing went better than we expected it would, thank goodness.
The memorial held by Rich, Ryan's dad, and Ryan's brother Sean was very good. As DH said, lots of laughs, lots of tears. It is so good to know that Ryan had so many friends and a good life away from the KH. There have been a lot of pictures of him put up on facebook with his non-JW friends and you see him smile a lot more in those pictures than in the ones with KH folk. Looking at pictures of him with his brother Richard (the only one of the three boys who is a JW) and his cousins at the summer conventions in recent years, he does not really smile at all, and knowing what I do now I think he felt trapped in the JW organization. He did not want to hurt my sister by leaving and lose JW family. I feel so sad for him in that, but happy that he was able to do some things he wanted to and enjoyed and be with friends who were not JW's and truly cared about him. I know he is in God's hands and looking down upon us.
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Attended meeting last night
by sd-7 ini was almost as worried as if i was giving a talk instead of my wife last night.
i parked and they went in well before me.
i gathered my thoughts and realized that it was only proper that way.
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mimimimi
My heart goes out to you. So difficult, this situation. I hope no one blasts you to shreds. There is way too much of that on here. If someone does, just ignore them.
It was good of you to go to hear your wife's talk. If she can accept that things like that or the memorial are all you will do, then perhaps you can keep peace in your marriage.
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J-dub elders throwing a wrench in funeral services for my nephew
by mimimimi inas i said in my earlier post, my nephew took his own life yesterday evening.
my sister is a die-hard jw and this religion is her comfort more than ever right now, so she accepts everything they throw at her.
the elders will meet this evening and decide whether they will allow a memorial service at the kh.
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mimimimi
Mamalove, they did. It will be at the funeral home and my brother will give the "talk". Father and son will be there, but then are having another memorial along with wake to honor Ryan in their own way, which I will attend as well. So sad that things had to turn out the way they did.
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J-dub elders throwing a wrench in funeral services for my nephew
by mimimimi inas i said in my earlier post, my nephew took his own life yesterday evening.
my sister is a die-hard jw and this religion is her comfort more than ever right now, so she accepts everything they throw at her.
the elders will meet this evening and decide whether they will allow a memorial service at the kh.
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mimimimi
Well, this is what I get for assuming. The dad just told me that Carol did not deliberately exclude them from the visitation. She just got distracted by her son before she finished telling the whole thing. I am sure it is very hard for her to keep all her thoughts straight right now. This is such a nightmare.
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J-dub elders throwing a wrench in funeral services for my nephew
by mimimimi inas i said in my earlier post, my nephew took his own life yesterday evening.
my sister is a die-hard jw and this religion is her comfort more than ever right now, so she accepts everything they throw at her.
the elders will meet this evening and decide whether they will allow a memorial service at the kh.
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mimimimi
It turns out the dad and his brother were told the service was at 11:00, but they were not told about the visitation at 10:00. Well now they know because I told them. I think they were being deliberately excluded from the visitation. I think that is unbelievably rude. I am sure there will be plenty of people there besides witnesses, and Snakes in the Tower and Donutstogo and his wife will be there. Well, Snakes works Saturday, but he said he was going to try to work things around to come. He and Donuts have been a tremendous comfort to me this week.
I think everyone is going to keep in mind that this is an occasion to respect and honor Ryan and there should not be any problems. I guess Carol did not tell the dad and brother about the visitation because she knew the witnesses would not want to associate with them. Anyway, the dad and brother are having another wake/memorial, but were waiting to schedule it once they knew when Carol's would be so it would not interfere. So I will be going to the second one, too. Which reminds me, I need to let Snakes know about the second one. He originally said he would prefer to go to that one, especially if the first one was at the KH.
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J-dub elders throwing a wrench in funeral services for my nephew
by mimimimi inas i said in my earlier post, my nephew took his own life yesterday evening.
my sister is a die-hard jw and this religion is her comfort more than ever right now, so she accepts everything they throw at her.
the elders will meet this evening and decide whether they will allow a memorial service at the kh.
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mimimimi
Their spiritual paradise always was a farce. Spiritual hell, more like.
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The Things I Hold Against You.......................
by Judge Dread ini hold nothing against anyone on this forum.. no hate.. no grudges.. no nothing.. i may not agree with some, but i do respect each and every one of you.. jdw .
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mimimimi
Yes, Syl. So did I.
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J-dub elders throwing a wrench in funeral services for my nephew
by mimimimi inas i said in my earlier post, my nephew took his own life yesterday evening.
my sister is a die-hard jw and this religion is her comfort more than ever right now, so she accepts everything they throw at her.
the elders will meet this evening and decide whether they will allow a memorial service at the kh.
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mimimimi
Arrangements have finally been made. My brother is going to use the Watchtower outline and deliver the "talk". He is not an elder. Carol decided she did not want to ask an elder. She was probably afraid they would turn her down once they went through their "research" and soul searching. It will be a visitation and service an hour later on Saturday at a local funeral home - Marks Mortuary in Wood River. I don't know if my ex-brother in law knows yet. I know he and one of my other nephews and a bunch of friends will still have their own thing. I told him that if the times do not conflict, I would go to both.
I never expected that our family would have to go through this. My mother is elderly, but I think she has already made plans for her funeral and told those who need to know for when she passes. She will, of course, have a KH service, which I expected. If this were an accident and not suicide, there would have been no problem. I am not surprised by what has happened here, but I feel just sickened by it. I truly wish this would wake up my family, but unfortunately I know that will not happen.