What is the justice in condemning humanity for the apparent sin of Eve, transferring the crime of one to another, or the entirety? Where is the justice in exterminating unbelievers (most of whom may simply be unaware of 'the truth')? People seem to value freedom as an implicit good--how is god's rule not authoritarian?
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by Aequitus inwhat is the justice in condemning humanity for the apparent sin of eve, transferring the crime of one to another, or the entirety?
where is the justice in exterminating unbelievers (most of whom may simply be unaware of 'the truth')?
people seem to value freedom as an implicit good--how is god's rule not authoritarian?
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by Aequitus inwhat is the justice in condemning humanity for the apparent sin of eve, transferring the crime of one to another, or the entirety?
where is the justice in exterminating unbelievers (most of whom may simply be unaware of 'the truth')?
why are some born with disease, deformity, etc, and not others?
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Aequitus
(Re: jwfacts) That was quite an eye-opening list... (Re: Eduardo ) I will do just that. Thank you both.
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by Aequitus inwhat is the justice in condemning humanity for the apparent sin of eve, transferring the crime of one to another, or the entirety?
where is the justice in exterminating unbelievers (most of whom may simply be unaware of 'the truth')?
why are some born with disease, deformity, etc, and not others?
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Aequitus
What is the justice in condemning humanity for the apparent sin of Eve, transferring the crime of one to another, or the entirety? Where is the justice in exterminating unbelievers (most of whom may simply be unaware of 'the truth')? Why are some born with disease, deformity, etc, and not others? Why is that man is not to lie with man, yet there seems to be a static portion of the population that is homosexual? Does this imply that women are not to lie with women? On what basis is one testament viewed to be legitimate and not the other? People seem to value freedom as an implicit good--how is god's rule not authoritarian? Regarding the immanent armageddon, 1914 was indeed a momentous year, yet what of when the Black Plague ravaged Europe killing between one third and two thirds of the population? How was that not more significant than the First World War? (Or the entire Dark Ages for that matter.) Indeed, what of the prosperity following WWI? The decline which followed with the stock market crash and the Second World War, but the relative stability, and arguable prosperity relative to other historical ages ever since? Has anyone looked into other religious sects that predicted armageddon, but merely chose a year for that occurrance which was relatively uneventful, and the sect simply died off after that?
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by Aequitus indo jehovah's witnesses believe that the earth is 6000 years old, or 4.5 billion?
and if adam and eve were the first people on the earth, how would the multitude of races come about from the inbreeding of adam and eve's children?
and during this time, people became wildly dispersed across the planet and adopted various other religions.
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Why would all of the races start their own languages and adopt different religions? Why would the JWs accept that the earth is 4.5 billion years old but seem to reject proto-human remains (like 'Lucy,' found in Chad and deemed to be between 6 and 7 million years old)?
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by Aequitus indo jehovah's witnesses believe that the earth is 6000 years old, or 4.5 billion?
and if adam and eve were the first people on the earth, how would the multitude of races come about from the inbreeding of adam and eve's children?
and during this time, people became wildly dispersed across the planet and adopted various other religions.
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Aequitus
Do Jehovah's Witnesses believe that the earth is 6000 years old, or 4.5 billion? And if Adam and Eve were the first people on the earth, how would the multitude of races come about from the inbreeding of Adam and Eve's children? And during this time, people became wildly dispersed across the planet and adopted various other religions. I believe in the year 1AD there were 1 million people on the earth--if the earth is 6000 years old, how is it that one million people are produced from two people procreating in the span of 4000 years? And what was with people living to be hundreds of years old at the beginning of the bible? I heard recently that the maximum possible lifespan of humans was determined to be 140. And Eve being created from Adam's rib...what does that even mean?
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Bible Contradictions?
by Aequitus ini was visited by jehovah's witnesses three times, and i decided to attend a meeting of theirs (which was this morning).
i had brought a page of questions because i was expecting more of a discussion.
this was not the case and i left after two hours.
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Aequitus
Alright. The second rhelm of questions I had was regarding how old the earth is, and about Adam and Eve. Do Jehovah's Witnesses believe that the earth is 6000 years old, or 4.5 billion? And if Adam and Eve were the first people on the earth, how would the multitude of races come about from the inbreeding of Adam and Eve's children? And during this time, people became wildly dispersed across the planet and adopted various other religions. I believe in the year 1AD there were 1 million people on the earth--how is it that one million people are produced from two people procreating in the span of 4000 years? And what was with people living to be hundreds of years old at the beginning of the bible? I heard recently that the maximum possible lifespan of humans was determined to be 140. And Eve being created from Adam's rib...what does that even mean?
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Bible Contradictions?
by Aequitus ini was visited by jehovah's witnesses three times, and i decided to attend a meeting of theirs (which was this morning).
i had brought a page of questions because i was expecting more of a discussion.
this was not the case and i left after two hours.
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Aequitus
You are totally right about the dubious 'discussions' after the sermon. They seem to consist of reading portions of their Watchtower magazine, and then the guy asks questions about how these statements relate to peoples' lives. Nothing whatsoever in the way of critical analysis. I took a class called Critical Thinking a couple years back, and while the course itself was actually a pretty useless introductory course on logic, in the textbook it outlined a number of useful logical fallacies. I can't imagine that anyone there would have an understanding of these (given that everying I heard was an example of one fallacy or another). I would have felt uncomfortable questioning their beliefs, especially given that there were children there (disturbing in itself). The people there seemed very pleasant and sincere, like they were a big family. But there was also a palpable cultish quality which I found disturbing. Moreover, during the sermon the guy spent a noticeable amount of time near the end speaking about the need to always attend meetings, pray constantly, meditate about god, reassure others, etc. Otherwise they seemed to lose faith... (you think?)
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Bible Contradictions?
by Aequitus ini was visited by jehovah's witnesses three times, and i decided to attend a meeting of theirs (which was this morning).
i had brought a page of questions because i was expecting more of a discussion.
this was not the case and i left after two hours.
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Aequitus
Well, when I talked to the Jehovah's witnesses when they came to my door, they seemed to have an answer for all of my questions. (I suppose 'answer' being defined as a response which seemed to show that there was no contradiction, to relate it to my question for this post.)
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Bible Contradictions?
by Aequitus ini was visited by jehovah's witnesses three times, and i decided to attend a meeting of theirs (which was this morning).
i had brought a page of questions because i was expecting more of a discussion.
this was not the case and i left after two hours.
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Aequitus
I should have said this to begin with, but I do not view the bible as the word of god, and I am seeking an answer from someone who does view the bible as the word of god. I am interested in how someone can come to be convinced of this, as everyone who was at the meeting earlier apparently was.
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Bible Contradictions?
by Aequitus ini was visited by jehovah's witnesses three times, and i decided to attend a meeting of theirs (which was this morning).
i had brought a page of questions because i was expecting more of a discussion.
this was not the case and i left after two hours.
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Aequitus
Hello, I was visited by Jehovah's Witnesses three times, and I decided to attend a meeting of theirs (which was this morning). I had brought a page of questions because I was expecting more of a discussion. This was not the case and I left after two hours. There are websites which claim that there are contradictions within the bible, such as the following three apparent contradictions: God CAN be seen: "And I will take away my hand, and thou shalt see my backparts." (Ex. 33:23) "And the Lord spake to Moses face to face, as a man speaketh to his friend." (Ex. 33:11) "For I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved." (Gen. 32:30) Vs. "No man hath seen God at any time." (John 1:18) "And he said, Thou canst not see my face; for there shall no man see me and live." (Ex. 33:20) "Whom no man hath seen nor can see." (1 Tim. 6:16) MATTHEW 1:16 "And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ." LUKE 3:23 "And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph, which was the son of Heli." War or Peace EXODUS 15:3 The LORD is a man of war: the LORD is his name. ROMANS 15:33 Now the God of peace be with you all. Amen. Thanks