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  baby elders

  by SB in

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  i'm curious ~ has anyone noticed how young elders are these days?

  in my old congregation, 6 of our 8 elders were under the age of 30, one of them 23, unmarried.

  the father being the p.o...ironically.

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  i've never heard the "25 years old" rule, and seen it broken if it's true ~ but that's hilarious, "according to the KM book"....nevermind the bible. :)
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  Why is the Watchtower Society so cruel to teens?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my mom just informed me that a 17 year old has been disfellowshipped at her hall.at least 7 others have been kicked out within the last 5 years.the publisher count is only 56 .why do they let the teens get baptized so young?

  i was 14 and only got baptized because of pressure and the end was coming.if you weren't baptized you would be destroyed.. why don't they wait until everyone is at leat 21?

  all these teens haven't come back and you won't ever see them unless they return.i haven't seen my cousin in over 2 years.no one went to his wedding,isn't invited to any family functions and is to be avoided at all costs.. the watchtower society should be ashamed that they act that way and the parents let them get away with it..

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  thank you lonecat for your post, it sounds like your abusive parents found their comfort zone in an abusive religion. i'm glad you escaped, congrats on a career and getting the best out of life before it was too late. how long do you think it will take to recover from our childhoods? :)
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  baby elders

  by SB in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'm curious ~ has anyone noticed how young elders are these days?

  in my old congregation, 6 of our 8 elders were under the age of 30, one of them 23, unmarried.

  the father being the p.o...ironically.

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  I'm curious ~ has anyone noticed how YOUNG elders are these days? In my old congregation, 6 of our 8 elders were under the age of 30, one of them 23, unmarried. The Father being the P.O...ironically. :)
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  Why is the Watchtower Society so cruel to teens?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  my mom just informed me that a 17 year old has been disfellowshipped at her hall.at least 7 others have been kicked out within the last 5 years.the publisher count is only 56 .why do they let the teens get baptized so young?

  i was 14 and only got baptized because of pressure and the end was coming.if you weren't baptized you would be destroyed.. why don't they wait until everyone is at leat 21?

  all these teens haven't come back and you won't ever see them unless they return.i haven't seen my cousin in over 2 years.no one went to his wedding,isn't invited to any family functions and is to be avoided at all costs.. the watchtower society should be ashamed that they act that way and the parents let them get away with it..

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  SB

  mind control is a tricky thing. the people in control of the congregations, were raised under that same control (in most situations). It's like someone who is abused that becomes the abuser. a child is more likely "willing" to be abused, as in, not stand up for themselves.(how can they? adults are supposed to guide them in a safe direction via dicipline, not into a situation that causes mental breakdowns if you try to leave). and by abuse, I was referring to mental abuse in this situation. what kind of adult, tells a child, that God will destroy them if they don't prance in front of thousands of people in a bathing suit to demonstrate their devotion to God? and what kind of child is encouraged to question their beliefs, until they take the big dunk in un-chlorinated water shared w/lots of other people, and after that, their beliefs are set for life?

  it's so unreasonable. it's an amusing question to ask children, "what do you want to be when you grow up?". Usually, they tell you something idealistic, something they have perceived as fun. Adults don't take it too seriously b/c they know a child will grow up, change their mind, their interests, their thoughts, become more educated....they realize at the time they are asked this question, they are not the person they will be later in life. there is a logical reason why 10 year olds don't apply to college ~ that's not the time in their life to be making decisions about what they want to be ~ they simply aren't smart enough, or experienced enough. but at 6, or 9, or 11, or 14...that is considered old enough to know what belief system they want for the rest of their life.

  Crazy.
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  The Watchtower Dec 2005 Literature appeal

  by seatrout in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  does anyone have a spare copy/photocopy of the december 2005 watchtower edition?

  i need to see this for my own research.. also, if any one has any literature which points out the society's belief that at this moment in time we are right on the verge of the great tribulation, then i also need to see this belief in print.. can anyone help?

  if anyone can i will provide postage details where they can be sent.. seatrout.

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  what's the deal w/this edition of the watchtower?
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  Reflecting on a year of freedom

  by fullofdoubtnow in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this is my 5000th post, and on wednesday it will be a year to the date since i was announced as no longer being one of jehovahs witnesses.

  i sent my da letter a few weeks prior to that, but i suppose it became official when it was announced.

  so i thought i'd look back on the last 12 months, and see where i am now compared to then.

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  thank you, for your very kind msg's to me and everyone else. congrat's to you and trev on your one year of freedom!!! i'm just beginning my first year, i can't wait to have the same results you have. with the encouragement i've found here, i know i will.

  lots of love!

  SB
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  if satan turned and came clean,would he be the biggest threat to evil ever?

  by The Dragon in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  if satan wanted freedom..shouldn't he search for the truth if nothing else is working?

  (truth sets free?).

  isn't that what a rebel wants?

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  i believe satan comitted the unforgivable sin of blaspheming the holy spirit or some crap like that. so, doesn't that mean that satan's original gift of free will to all of a sudden change his ways has been taken away according to the WT, so even if he changed, there is no way he would be forgiven....that is if I have put their teachings together correctly.
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  excerpt from www.watchtower.org...

  by SB in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the official website of the true god.

  here is a preview, w/a link to the rest of the information.

  very interesting how they explain exactly what propoganda is.... http://www.watchtower.org/library/g/2000/6/22/article_03.htm.

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  the official website of the true god. here is a preview, w/a link to the rest of the information. Very interesting how they explain exactly what propoganda is...

  http://www.watchtower.org/library/g/2000/6/22/article_03.htm

  THERE is a difference—a big difference—between education and propaganda. Education shows you how to think. Propaganda tells you what to think. Good educators present all sides of an issue and encourage discussion. Propagandists relentlessly force you to hear their view and discourage discussion.Often their real motives are not apparent. They sift the facts, exploiting the useful ones and concealing the others. They also distort and twist facts, specializing in lies and half-truths. Your emotions, not your logical thinking abilities, are their target.
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  For what purpose did Brooklyn Bethel keep records of accussed pedophiles?

  by Gill in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i was wondering this, as i remember that leo greenlees was just moved to another congregation and that was all.. so why keep records if they weren't going to use them?.

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  I dont know why they would keep records of "accused"paeodophiles.I would understand why they would have records of the convicted though.

  they can't get convicted if they are never reported to the authorities. and then there is that scripture, "let no man of God stand accused"...(i'm bad at remembering where verses are though...). If I have understood correctly all these years, all it takes is being accused of something to have your "privledges" (i'm a horrible speller, sorry - i'm signed up for an english class this spring!) removed. So...how many things are the GB accused of? who can remove them? only each other? that's a frat house isn't it? held together by the bonds of brotherhood...

  but, i ramble. :)

  SB
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  Getting rid of WT books, anyone interested?

  by unique1 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  these are the books i am getting rid of.

  if any of you are interested in any of them for cross-referencing purposes or whatever, let me know and all you will have to pay is shipping to my paypal account and i will send it to you.

  pm me if you want any of the following.

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  i struggle w/getting rid of my pioneer book. all the tiny little writing and notes and colorful highlighting....it seems like such a personalized book to get rid of. that,my reference bible, and "organized to accomplish our ministry" with all my notes in it from when i was 14, studying up to be a good little baptized servant.

  so good for you for getting rid of books/firewood! i got rid of a lot, but just a few, for no real emotional reason, just historical, are gonna stick around my place for a while. :)