Posts by faundy

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GAY WOMEN

by Dansk in

please bear with me on this as this is a genuine attempt by me at greater understanding.. recently, a young woman i know has come out and stated that she is gay.

this is the second time i have been shocked - yes shocked!

- because neither woman fit what i used to consider was the "typical" gay woman profile (i am not using the word lesbian in case it causes offence).

Well Pops, I think this was a pretty good thread, and it seems as though you have had many though-provoking responses. It might be wierd for you to read but I'm going to answer your qustions, too. Why not? They're damn good questions! When did you realise you were gay? At what age? Four. Yes, it's odd. I agree that children don't understand sexuality but I remember falling in love with Frida out of Abba after looking on the cover of the LP! All through school I had crushes on female teachers and even though I knew it was going to be my 'duty' to marry a brother and live the straight life, it worried me greatly. Do you think your family upbringing made you gay or do you consider you were just born that way? I certainly think that it is as natural a part of me as the fact that I have brown hair and hazel eyes. Being gay can't be changed any easier than the physical details can. But I have received, as I got older, very unwanted male attention, even from people I should have trusted, as you know. It may not have made me gay, but it certainly made me distrust men a lot more. Do you have heterosexual siblings? If so, how have they responded to you? Two very straight brothers who, as far as I know, are fine with it! Karl lives in what is becoming the gay capital of Britain, and I know that Dom is proud to tell his mates his sister is gay. I think that's great. He found it a shock at first but my telling him about me means he tells me a lot about himself, too. One very straight sister, who threatened to cut herself off from me if I ever slept with a woman. An she did. But I like to think it's a religious thing rather than a personal thing. But I reckon I'll never find out. Do your parents know? If so, how have they reacted to you? Yes you both know! Mum was shocked and I think you were too, and I know it was strained for a couple of days but I think that we get on better than we ever have done. I also like the fact that neither of you have ever made it difficult for me to introduce my partners, in fact you have made them welcome. But I'm sticking with this one so I doubt you'll ever have to meet another! The other thing is that a lot of parents feel that once their child comes out they automatically have to be all accepting and embracing of the gay culture. I don't enjoy the gay scene. I don't like the fact that within the lesbian community locally everyone has either slept with everyone else or knows someone who has. I don't wave a rainbow flag everywhere I go or insist on dragging my parents to pride parades, all parents have to do is be the same as they always were. They have to show the same unconditional love as before and support their children and their choice of partner. They should feel proud that they obviously instilled in their children the need for family communication and mutual respect and should continue to live by that. (Climbs down from soap-box......) Do you not fancy men at all, i.e. do you not think you could ever have a deeply loving relationship with a man, even marrying him for life? Nope. Again for the reasons I've mentioned. I do not fancy men. I love women. I love the way they look, the way they feel, the way they smell. Boy-smell makes me feel sick, it really does. And women understand other women, and I love that as well. Nobody could understand what a woman wants and needs better than another woman. I feel offended by men who are baffled by women who don't fancy them. I get offended by men who think they can 'turn' lesbians. It's egotistical and disgusting. This next question is sensitive, I'm sorry: I've heard that some gay women use sexual items, like dildos. If a gay woman uses these why, then, wouldn't she go with a man? Not every lesbian uses these, and I think this question is the most awkward one to answer! The thing is, as another poster has mentioned, the problem isn't the penis, it's the man attached to it. I don't like men, and even though occasionally I may find one attractive, it baffles me as to why someone would find a good looking man more attractive than a good looking woman. For me, as it is for you, the woman is the more attractive every time. It's like saying to a gay man that if he is going to have anal sex with a man, why doesn't he just sleep with a woman and have the vagina? It sounds crude, but you will get the same reaction. It's about attraction. Some women, particularly staunch feminists, believe using dildo is as abhorrent to them as sleeping with a man. To me, it's very different. The vagina is made to accommodate a penis, The Latin for Vagina literally translates as "Sheath for a sword". Again, for that reason some lesbians choose never even to use the word Vagina. But the dildo simply replaces the physical item occasionally desired in sex. Some lesbians still like to feel it inside them. Others enjoy other methods, and in the same logic not all gay men have anal sex. But no matter what methods you use to have sex, it's about the person you're having sex with. Do you find the term 'Lesbian' offensive? No, not at all. I don't find many of the terms or gay women offensive, unless they are used in a degrading way. I'll call myself a dyke but won't appreciate someone else labeling me as such, particularly if it's meant in a derogatory way. Obviously words like muff-diver are crude but even then they make me laugh and all I can do is shrug my shoulders and go: 'Yeah, and?' Some gay women really do look masculine. If a gay woman goes with suchlike why, then, won't she go with a man? Again for the reasons I've mentioned. But those who are particularly butch lesbians may feel more body dysmorphic, for instance they may not like being women and prefer to act like men. To some lesbians, that's a turn on. It may mean that they can have the masculine traits they find attractive without having to have the man. She still smells, thinks and feels like a woman even if she's boyish. I know many gay women who find the butch or androgynous look attractive. Me, I don't. I like women to look like women. My girlfriend has long blonde hair, wears makeup and dresses like a girl. And I think she's gorgeous. Hope that helps, not just you but other people who read this thread. I'm grateful to live in a time when I don't have to hide it and can be myself. If I have offended anyone with my answers I apologise, and if you want to discuss anything privately, feel free to PM me. Faundy

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aposate cousin makes apostate music/you must hear

by dawg in

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as a musician, its rare that i become a real fan, but my cousin, my only relative that's outspoken about this org.

has made some incrediable music.

i must admit that i am a fan of his; i hope you'll all listen to the music and words/especailly the words.... might be the only good hting he gets from being an ex-jw.

faundy

I agree, I'm afraid. The music was very amateur and irritating; it was just like other religious-type music that has no real melody and is simply a statement on bad things in the world. If I was him I'd find another vocation.

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Disfellowshipped without knowing

by faundy in

is this allowed?

i am being ignored by my neighbours and have been gingerly waved to by an elder.

now i haven't heard anything from anyone but is it possible to be disfellowshipped without my knowing?

faundy

Is this allowed? I am being ignored by my neighbours and have been gingerly waved to by an elder. Now I haven't heard anything from anyone but is it possible to be disfellowshipped without my knowing? And should I ring someone up and find out?

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Barbara Anderson is on NBC Nightly News Tonight 11/21/07

by AndersonsInfo in

a producer with nbc in new york called within the past hour to tell me that the segment i interviewed for (once in nashville, tn in august and once in washington, dc in october) is set to air tonight on nbc nightly news with brian williams, that is, if no huge calamity takes place to bump the feature.

this piece will be two minutes and 45 seconds long, the longest slot nightly news has for topics of interest, and will feature a discussion about the court documents that are found on the cd i recently produced, "secrets of pedophilia in an american religion, jehovah's witnesses in crisis.

in addition, nbc's internet site, msn, will follow with a detailed story.

faundy

OK, I have learnt about a beluga whale and a chinese kid, how to get your kids to eat vegetables, and all about a guy in a steam accident. WHERE AM I GOING WRONG?????

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Barbara Anderson is on NBC Nightly News Tonight 11/21/07

by AndersonsInfo in

a producer with nbc in new york called within the past hour to tell me that the segment i interviewed for (once in nashville, tn in august and once in washington, dc in october) is set to air tonight on nbc nightly news with brian williams, that is, if no huge calamity takes place to bump the feature.

this piece will be two minutes and 45 seconds long, the longest slot nightly news has for topics of interest, and will feature a discussion about the court documents that are found on the cd i recently produced, "secrets of pedophilia in an american religion, jehovah's witnesses in crisis.

in addition, nbc's internet site, msn, will follow with a detailed story.

faundy

Why is it that all the links posted here are about putting spinach in cupcakes??? Will someone please post a proper link for us Brits?

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Favourite Classical music

by Guest with Questions in

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on another thread i posted be still my soul.

it is taken from sibelius finlandia.

it starts at 4:50. beethoven will probably always be at the top for me but this is great music.. sibelius finlandia: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdzipg3beem&mode=related&search=.

faundy

Fabulous thread- classical music is a passion of mine. I have to listen to Chopin whenever I'm working on an essay. It's so relaxing. I adore the 19th Nocturne in E minor, and also Nocturne no.1 in B flat major. Both are just stunning.

Recently I downloaded Fingal's cave, as it is used on an advert for washing powder over here in England. My all time favourite pieces must also include the third movement from Mozart's Clarinet Concerto, and Strauss's 'On the Beautiful Blue Danube.'

But Chopin every time. Without a doubt. If anyone knows o any exceptionally good recordings of Chopin, please let me know.

Great thread, I just wish I had thought of it myself!!!

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are we inactive or what?

by inactive? in

i would like someone to discuss some issues i have.

i understand all are welcome here, so i am sure some elders or former elders could help me.

i was a pioneer for 7 years, before that i was a regular auxiliarry pioneer for 3 years, i have been a witness for 17 years.

faundy

I find this story unusual and I actually hope it's not true, for your sake and for the sake of the rest of those in the congregation. I believe there is more to this story.

Or, I smell a troll.

Er, Trevor, is that you??

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Mum aged 22 dies for Jehovah

by MidwichCuckoo in

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mum aged 22 dies for jehovah.... http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/article427045.ece.

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faundy

Gill- you're wrong, I'm not a witness. And my thread was about the sadness I feel for the way far too many threads have been dedicated to this one news story. I'm trying to see it from both sides and am also attempting (although obviously not very successfully) to highlight that this forum contains too much gleeful pouncing on any witness sensationalism. We do not know all the facts.

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Are there things you can't get rid of?

by faundy in

for instance, i still can't bring myself to say 'bless you' when someone sneezes.

i still cringe when saying 'good luck' and even now i feel i am being really naughty when shopping for a birthday card for someone.

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faundy

*Stands by earlier, ironically more relevant (now) comment.*

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Are there things you can't get rid of?

by faundy in

for instance, i still can't bring myself to say 'bless you' when someone sneezes.

i still cringe when saying 'good luck' and even now i feel i am being really naughty when shopping for a birthday card for someone.

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faundy

I agree with the thing about the books, and have still got most of my library. This isn't because I want to look at them, rather that I actually don't want to throw any books away; I love books and to throw any book away is very difficult for me- they sit in a box under my bed until I can decide what to do with them. I got rid of magazines and KMs, etc, but the main books I have kept.