We have all heard ALL the crap about 666, now does anyone have any conjecture or idea about 616? I have only heard of one possible conclusion to this so far. 616 is generaly found in the oldest manuscripts.
ElijahTheThird
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666, or 616?
by ElijahTheThird inwe have all heard all the crap about 666, now does anyone have any conjecture or idea about 616?
i have only heard of one possible conclusion to this so far.
616 is generaly found in the oldest manuscripts.
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anyone know who the current "annointed&quo...
by malian inok i have a question: these people that are running the organization that is the "faithful and discreet slave" and are being enlightened by god, who are they????
what are jws told about these people??
how do these people receive guidance from god??
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ElijahTheThird
Actually if you read and research using the WT CD about Anointed, Called, letters of insight, and other references to that effect you will figure it out.
The Anointed were to write their letters of insight into the headquarters and then it was discussed and what they thought was apropoe they published. That GB has been failing to publish what has been given them! Those of the Anointed have discovered the WWW to be where those insights can be discussed openly and fully. Yes I have to agree with Little Toe on this one.
Well, there is how those "insights" really come about folks. Now with the WWW those with the gift of insight can meet and publish what it is they are knowing. And those insights get to the people that are looking and not into an archive ,,,, somewhere,,,,
ASK yourselves this;
Would Your loving Father really leave you with out His means of guidence if there werent these provisions THROUGH His Anointed?
They are to judge! NOT ELDERS!
They are to teach you what is being made known!
It is the Anointed that are to MEET TOGETHER, and others may join!
The Anointed are to apoint others with in those meetings to help.Isn't it time to really DO what the bible teaches? Not just render it mere lip service?
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Anyone care to write a #2 talk?
by mindfield inyup, you heard me!
if you are interested in writing a 5 min.
long talk, including about 3min.
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ElijahTheThird
Ohhhhhh myyyyyyy goddddddd FOCLMAO!
That was the first talk I ever gave!
That was the only talk I ever gave.
I was DFed for having a Concubine!
Sheeeeesh, go figure will yah?
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WHAT is the punishment for 'eating' BLOOD?
by Adonai438 ini read this atricle recently that sums up rather nicely why the watchtower stance on blood transfusions is innaccurate and deadly.. please read this for information before taking your position on the issue & i would welcome any comments:.
jehovahs witnesses.
twisting the scriptures on blood.
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ElijahTheThird
So you ignore the part about "As for any
soul that eats a body (already) dead ,,," It changes to a different What If then ,,,Blind leading Blind?
You abstain your way, and I'll abstain from just about every doctor of today as much as I can!Pill pushing gods in white coats! Yes, run to the pharmakia (sorcery) DRUG PUSHING gods. *chuckles and laffs* Good health to you!
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Elders or Anointed to JUDGE?
by ElijahTheThird inwhy is it so many lay the blame on god for the appointment of elders?
read your bibles!
it is the anointed amongst you that are to appoint elders, but the anointed are to judge!
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ElijahTheThird
Why is it so many lay the blame on God for the appointment of Elders? Read your Bibles! It is the Anointed amongst you that are to appoint Elders, but the Anointed are to JUDGE! NOT ELDERS!
Isn’t it wrote that maters are to be brought before the Anointed? NOT before courts of men? That is all the Elders are, is a court of men. When an Anointed one, whether a man or woman, hears a mater it is never behind closed doors. The decisions they make and how they decide is for all to see and hear in OPEN meeting.
You see the results and methods of those with out the Anointing making decisions and judging, how do you think they are doing?
Think how it would piss off the WT for many to start asking for an Anointed one to be their judge? *big cheesy grins* -
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Unrighteous Disfellowshiping ?
by ElijahTheThird inwhy is it so many lay the blame on god for the appointment of elders?
read your bibles!
it is the anointed amongst you that are to appoint elders, but the anointed are to judge!
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ElijahTheThird
Why is it so many lay the blame on God for the appointment of Elders? Read your Bibles! It is the Anointed amongst you that are to appoint Elders, but the Anointed are to JUDGE! NOT ELDERS!
Isn’t it wrote that maters are to be brought before the Anointed? NOT before courts of men? That is all the Elders are, is a court of men. When an Anointed one, whether a man or woman, hears a mater it is never behind closed doors. The decisions they make and how they decide is for all to see and hear in OPEN meeting.
You see the results and methods of those with out the Anointing making decisions and judging, how do you think they are doing?
Think how it would piss off the WT for many to start asking for an Anointed one to be their judge?
And on that note, since this is the way our Creator said to do it, and NOT by any dirrection from any "central body of men" as Paul discovered of those "pillers" in Jerusalem. When I asked an Anointed that was not even an Elder why they didnt judge at these hearings,, they gave the same response as yah always get. I think I remember they were sick for a few days after the next memorial,,, and ended up in the hospital after the next memorial,,,
*big cheesy grins*
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Another Silentlamb
by LittleToe inthe following article was printed in todays "daily record", for those interested:.
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/shtml/news/p13s3.shtml
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ElijahTheThird
This is a tender nerve in me. this point!
*QUOTED* "We did discuss Alison's claims. But we decided we would stand back, we were not sure."You don't know a person's heart, you don't know what's in there.
What is the truth?
The Anointed should be able to read the hearts from what I have read of the bible. Or hasn't anyone else read this? It is one of the many gifts of the spirit. Oh darn, the GB dosn't acknowlege the other spiritual gifts, only that of insight, and only if yer over 70. Any one out there ever demand to go before the Anointed as the bibles says and not before the Elders? When the Anointed "sigh" over someone in prayer,,, woe to that one whom they sigh over it says. -
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JWs True Christians or Antichrists?
by Belligerent Paladin injehovahs witnesses true christians or antichrists.
are witnesses the only true christians on earth?
are they the only ones who truly know what it means to be a christian and to apply those principles in their day-to-day life?
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ElijahTheThird
Hell no!, stay out of the doors of churches. *grins* I never implied that did I? Jesus condemned the Jews for turning the Government into a religion didn't he? Dosn't it just seem to fit a bit better that there would be many more of the Son's of God than just 144k? Wasn't the human's created with the idea to be the Sons of God and to help rule the universe? Many will be Called and needed, it is a mighty big place out there. We are a very unique creation, our destiny is out there,,,, among the stars. Being representatives and arbitrators of the Creator amongst all the created life forms out there.
All this testing and refining and trials that the Called Ones go through prepares them for their destiny. It is not what we know, but what we are. Our hearts! Our attitudes!
For all we know, the 144k may have been Chosen long ago and all that have had this Calling in modern times are of the HARVEST, the Great Crowd?!?
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Anointed's Letters of Insight, Where are ...
by ElijahTheThird inwhere are these letters of insight the anointed of jws have been writing into the gb for decades?
what are in those letters?
why werent they ever made public?
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ElijahTheThird
Where are these “letters of insight” the Anointed of JWs have been writing into the GB for decades? What are in those letters? Why weren’t they ever made public? Most importantly I ask the GB now, OPENLY on the internet, why haven’t you followed those “letters” of insight and the guidance they told of?
The reason for these questions all must ask of the GB are simple. There in lies the answers to why injustices and wrongs are being committed by the GB! Why you have been told lies and have been deceived, as were many of the Anointed that were found by your “door to door” work have also been deceived. Simply stated, it was to continue to perfect and try the ones with that Calling.
Not only the UN, but before them the US knew of these letters and were working ways to get their hands on them. Today many countries and most of the hierarchy of religions know of them! Can you see a bit more of the importance of the tie in with the US /UN now?
What about this so called “insight” that the Anointed supposedly have? What do you personally know of it? What I do know is that it has attracted the top security agencies of the world. After having met with a few of the Anointed, both in and out of the JWs, it is known that they have received some insight that the GB has failed to publish. It is known also that their insights that they get are all the same. They all get any newly released insight by the gift they have at the same time. Guess what? You haven’t been getting it. But many of this worlds authorities have! And those “insights” tell the rest of the story.What I personally know about it I’ll tell in another thread.
This questioning is simultaneously posted at several sites.
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When Reform Becomes Impossible
by metatron inin some organizations, reform can become impossible.. explosive and centrifugal forces can build up, year after year,.
without relief.
after that, even a small pin prick can cause.
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ElijahTheThird
Nothing is impossible. But the final lit fuse is these questions;
Where are the "letters of insight" of the Anointed?
Why haven't the GB followed those "insights" of the Anointed?
Did they "sell-out" the Anointed's "insight" to the US/UN?
They make ones follow edicts of man, and not the bible.