Very beautiful and unusual artwork.
Love it.
Velta
i am working on a myspace page.. come be my friend and help me out!!!!.
http://www.myspace.com/purpledoodles.
leslie.
Very beautiful and unusual artwork.
Love it.
Velta
in an earlier thread i spoke of my younger son going to move in with his girlfriend, non jw.
he's 30, baptised, divorced hasn't been to meetings in three years and in good standing.
so, yesterday i had the opportunity to help him move.
nomoreguilt
I have 2 sons, and I want a relationship with BOTH of them , but I can't ALLOW the older one to do this to his brother.
dawg..... Your words are EXACTLY how I feel. I feel that it is incumbent upon ME to have the older son face up to the reallity of being a REAL brother and not just a cult controlled person
Aude said what I felt. I have been through this with my two oldest daughters. My oldest refuses to talk to her younger sister. It is not even about the JWS. It is some
supposed wrong that my younger daughter did more than 15 years ago!!!! I have tried to reconcile them. I have tried to talk to my oldest many times. I found out that it
just made things worse and strained our relationship. My son, before he died, shunned his sisters (3). He shunned us. I wrote him letters about our not leaving Jehovah, just the org, but I got no reply. I just realized that they were adults and it was their life to lead. When they leave your home and go out on their own life, you have no more responsibility to raise them or discipline them. They have to live their own life. All you can do is love them both and pray for them (if you believe). Encourage them. Speak to them about your belief (if the opportunity arises) but do not preach. There is nothing that can turn off a relationship more than that.
I pray that it will work out for you and your boys. Just be their father, not a spiritual policeman.
Love and hugs,
Velta
like many i probably hesitated to post anything.
i've been a baptized witness for 21 years.
i was raised roman catholic, went to a parochial school for 8 years, public high school, the usaf for 4 years during vietnam, got my first good job after the military in 1974 at age 25, got married in 1976, went to pentecostal, baptist churches for awhile, and was presbyterian for 8 years during my first marriage that ended after 10 years.
First, WELCOME! You have found the right place to "get it off your chest".
You will never heal until you do. I remember when we were first disfellowshipped, I threw-up over everyone I came in contact with. It is just a normal thing to get rid of all the hurt and poison that has accumulated over the years.
You said: I am sorry I can't write any more. This is very painful to have these feeling well up inside and flood me all over again. There is so much more that happend over the last 21 years. Believe me, I admit I have my faults and there were times I needed to be stronger but I could not cope with all the things that were happening to me and my family all at the same time. But is is also true that I got no meaningful help and little or no understanding from the elders or even two Circuit overseers. I guess I just had to get some of this off my chest
I think you have a lot more to "get rid of" and you need to share it. We are here to listen and to help in any way we can.
Just because you feel that you cannot stay a JW does not mean that you can't pick and choose what you believe is true.
IMO there is NO "one true religion". Each denomination may have things that you can accept while not believing all. That is how God made us, to have our own opinion and not be stuck with someone else's.
Just relax and enjoy your life. Stop and smell the roses. Go out and do the things you weren't permitted to do as a JW. Let your life, be your life.
I pray you will find peace and healing.
Love and hugs,
Velta
Of course we want to hear your story. That is the best part of this
website. This is what tells us who you are and what you are going through.
Welcome to the group.
Love and hugs,
Velta
[to all those who followed the first eight chapters of my story, thank you.
it's very healing for me to write all this.
i had fooled myself that my story was done after chapter 8, but it really wasn't.
Daniel,
Thanks for continuing with "the rest of the story". I printed it out for my husband and he is enjoying it too
(he is not computer friendly hee hee) all 91 pages (I had to enlarge the fonts for his old eyes, mine too)
I am so glad that you went to college and started on this road of writing and critical thinking, being able to
see for yourself. Freedom is always worth the price.
Love and hugs,
Velta
i am working on a myspace page.. come be my friend and help me out!!!!.
http://www.myspace.com/purpledoodles.
leslie.
Hi Leslie,
I am your friend.
Just added you to myspace; www.myspace.com/grammavelta
Love and hugs,
Velta
She is absolutely beautiful!!
I know what its like to be a proud Gramma.
Love and hugs,
Velta
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dagney has just lost someone very close to her who meant the world to her.. death is hard enough to deal wtih when you're a jw - when the rug has been taken from underneath you and you are no longer sure of what happens when someone dies and have no idea whether you will ever see that person again (most unlikely) it is even harder to bear.. just sending my loving thoughts to you honey - don't want to ignore your loss but finding it hard to say the right words..... (i was never stuck before).
sam xx.
Dagney,
I am so sorry, Honey. You have a PM.
Love and hugs,
Velta
[this is the true story of my life.
i'm posting it in installments.
the final installment will include post-script-type thoughts, with acknowledgements to those who've helped me along these last two years, as well as those who've been an inspiration.
Dearest Daniel,
Wow! Your story had me on the edge of my seat! What a powerful
and moving story. Not just from the events, which were rivetting in themselves, but your writing style is outstanding.
What a gift with words God has given you. I do not think that you should abandon it. You should become a writer. You have such a natural talent!
I admire your strength and faith through the pain in growing up in sucha highly disfunctional family. I guess we all do to an extent, but you have endured a
lot of things in your young life that the average person doesn't encounter in a lifetime of living.
I am glad that your faith in God survived the years in the WT. I found God in my years (45+) with the organization, so I know that despite all the negative things that happen, our faith can grow and we can emerge with it intact.
I will be praying that your wonderful wife will likewise be able to find that you do not need the WT or the F&DS to worship God and appreciate all His creation. Like you, I can now stop to notice the flowers and all the wonderful creation that He has given us, since I do not have to devote my time to the demands of men.
With much love,
Velta
quick question that goes for everyone.
is it respectful or disrespectful to call god by his personal name?.
for example, let's say theres a guy name rob.
Possible-san,
I understand what you are saying, but here is my take on this:
In Mexico, they pronounce my name Berta. I am not offended by
that because maybe they don't hear my name as Velta.
If I heard your name and wanted to have a close relationship with
you, even though your name might be hard to prounounce, I would
try until I got it as close as my English-speaking tongue could.
I think that we ought to give the same respect to our Father when
talking ABOUT Him and when talking TO Him, call Him Father
out of respect. Just my opinion.
Love and hugs,
Velta