Posts by J-ex-W

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A call to all NF's and NT's (Myers Briggs)

by becca1 in

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friends

ok, some of you may be sick of these personality type issues but here goes.. i've noticed that whenever these topics come up, nf's and nt's come out of the woodwork.

in case you didn't know, these are the minority of the geneal population.

in a random setting you will have only 2 to 5% of n's (infp, infj,enfp,enfj,intp,intj,entp,entj).

J-ex-W

Maybe N's like me are closet exhibitionists, or perhaps, suckers for punishment?

I've always been a closet exhibitionist. I've always been proud of my organizing skills--I'll show my closet to anyone!

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i am 26 , i was baptised at 12 (way to young to make that choice) df'd at 13, reproved at 16, and then finnally df'd for good at 19. i have been forced to leave behind my family and friends, but other than that have never been happier.

i just found this board and i am very happy i have, it is great councelling, and look forward to many great discussions.

thanks in advance!!!

J-ex-W

Someone say HELLO TO MEEEEE!!!!

LOL --------------Welcome, KICKED OUT. We look forward to kickin' it with ya!

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anyone else out there land on a psych ward after being df'd???

by Messy in

its a long story that starts with panic attacks going door to door and ended with a 2 month vacation in the cornwall on.

psych floor for two months.

i was stalked by the elders for 3 years after i stopped going to meetings.

J-ex-W

Ya know, the sad thing is, that JW's still in the Org. would look at the person on the 'outs' (now having pysch problems) as coming from something that originates in that person--and not in the insane situation created/ perpetuated by the Org. and its Borg followers. It's the same thing with dysfunctional family dynamics: The rest of the family-borg wants to believe that the person manifesting internal conflicts means the person has a problem, not the family system of operating. ["There's nothing wrong with me...I'm not doing anything wrong...so-and-so just needs to straigthen out their act, get their s*** together."]

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Ever hear an experience at an assembly that you KNOW was slanted?

by Bonnie_Clyde in

i remember one at a district assembly.

a brother was being interviewed as to why he never chose over time work at his job.

he said he worked for a small printing company and that he was content with working regular hours.

J-ex-W

Oh, WOW. I couldn't even read past half the first page of these. I feel positively ILL! It was at my first assembly that I attended (with my ex-husband's family--the weekend we GOT MARRIED!!!--that I was so moved by the whole thing...I decided then and there that I wanted to be a part of this...that I wanted to study life/ the Bible from the JW perspective.

Oh, WOW!!

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cult personality type?

by Mysterious in

jw
friends

another thing that has been intriguing me lately is the idea that cults can help sway people towards a certain personality type more towards a judging personality for example, or becoming more feeling rather than thinking.

i know my meyers-briggs type changed from istj when i was a jw to intj after i left.

i was curious if anyone else was aware of a similar shift in their actual measurable personality traits..maybe putting on the new personality is literal?

J-ex-W

One of my closest lifelong friends is an INFJ.

My being an "E" complements her "I", we think similarly (with the "NF"), and the fact that we're both "J"s makes us good workmates. [We met in the workplace 20 years ago.]

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please send prayers my way

by junctions-wife in

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friends

my 83 year old grandmother is very sick.

she has not eaten anything in two days, we tried chicken noodle soup tonight and she just drank the broth.

anybody have any kind of suggestions i will listen.

J-ex-W

junctions_wife --------------- Wish I had words...just (((((((((((((((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))))))))))))))))

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cult personality type?

by Mysterious in

jw
friends

another thing that has been intriguing me lately is the idea that cults can help sway people towards a certain personality type more towards a judging personality for example, or becoming more feeling rather than thinking.

i know my meyers-briggs type changed from istj when i was a jw to intj after i left.

i was curious if anyone else was aware of a similar shift in their actual measurable personality traits..maybe putting on the new personality is literal?

J-ex-W

Tyrone-------- your words:

This may be so but I'm not happy, and I reckon I have this personality type as a result of the crap in my life. If this is set in stone then, I must find a way to make the most of it. I just don't feel I have lived up to my full potential. I beleive My natural self was washed away or lost in delusion. I used to love people and Used to love going out and having fun. It has all changed. I dare say I have become the opposite of what I was by crawling into a shell to protect my inner child.

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I think you may still be laboring under a misconception. First of all, who said personality type is set in stone? Second, why do you get the idea that any one of the personality types is negative, much less yours in particular? Remember, it's the spectrum of

healthy----------to----------UNhealthy

(not the four letters combinations) that determines whether and to what degree any of the types will manifest predominantly positively or negatively. All the personality types intersect somewhere along that continuum. ISTJ--as do each of the other 15 types--has its STRENGTHS as well as weaknesses. Check out

www.personalitypage.com

for more detail on that. Compare the other types too, to get a better idea.

I'm hearing a couple things in your 'voice' right now. One is--very predictable and NORMAL--midlife reflection and self-assessment. It's what we DO with that evaluation in these years that will determine the health or unhealth of FUTURE years. The other thing I'm hearing is thought distortion--negative self-perception out of proportion to true circumstance. In other words, you're being too hard on yourself...because it's how your father and the WTB&TS trained you to regard/ treat yourself.

THAT is something therapy can help you learn to identify and to gradually root out of your 'repertoire' of behaviors. We all have these in some areas or another...the extent to which we have been abused largely determines how far distorted our self-perceptions will be.

I'll give an example: I grew up NOT being told the positive things about myself but having the things I did wrong pointed out with a limelight, magnifying glass, derision, scorn, and/ or a lauging track. [I'm talking within the home, here.] With the negative things--or even NEUTRAL things presented with a negative twist--pointed up so readily (and virtual silence on the good stuff), I grew up believing I was DUMB.

In 7th grade, I walked around for three weeks hiding my 'different' math book because I didn't want anyone else to see that I was in the 'dumb' class. It wasn't until one day in the lunch room, when--to my horror!--a girl pulled my book from under the others in the stack and starting flipping through it that I found out differently. She said, "You're in THIS book? Wow...this looks HARD!!"

It turned out I was in the ADVANCED class--having NO idea that I was actually intelligent...because the distorted proportion of negative vs. positive feedback I had gotten up to then had given me a distorted view of myself. I saw something different about me...and immediately assumed that it meant something negative about me. That's what I'm hearing in your voice right now.

I hope you don't mind my saying that. I just think, especially since you're at an age for natural self-reflection already, that it wouln't hurt to start out this exercise in introspection with a kinder, gentler approach to yourself. Let yourself take time to get re-acquainted with that inner 'kid' you just described. He's sounds really likeable!!

which each of the personality

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cult personality type?

by Mysterious in

jw
friends

another thing that has been intriguing me lately is the idea that cults can help sway people towards a certain personality type more towards a judging personality for example, or becoming more feeling rather than thinking.

i know my meyers-briggs type changed from istj when i was a jw to intj after i left.

i was curious if anyone else was aware of a similar shift in their actual measurable personality traits..maybe putting on the new personality is literal?

J-ex-W

This may be so but I'm not happy, and I reckon I have this personality type as a result of the crap in my life. If this is set in stone then, I must find a way to make the most of it. I just don't feel I have lived up to my full potential. I beleive My natural self was washed away or lost in delusion. I used to love people and Used to love going out and having fun. It has all changed. I dare say I have become the opposite of what I was by crawling into a shell to protect my inner child.

Okay, Tyrone...I think someone might need to read this again:

Tyrone--- Growing up with that...I would STRONGLY recommend therapy. It may--and does--seem like a waste of time some sessions, but the overall thread of discovery continues and transforms into a thread of continuous recovery. It winds up bing well worth it if you stick with it long enough. Honestly, it can take years to uproot the damaging effects--but there's a luminescent, floating butterfly poised to burst forth from the constriction of that grey crusted cocoon it's been housed in for so long. Sometimes someone needs to help slit a clean and careful cut through that cocoon to help the butterfly flit freely. It may feel 'too close' sometimes...it's okay. The butterfly is waiting.

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cult personality type?

by Mysterious in

jw
friends

another thing that has been intriguing me lately is the idea that cults can help sway people towards a certain personality type more towards a judging personality for example, or becoming more feeling rather than thinking.

i know my meyers-briggs type changed from istj when i was a jw to intj after i left.

i was curious if anyone else was aware of a similar shift in their actual measurable personality traits..maybe putting on the new personality is literal?

J-ex-W

These results certainly seem in line with the eefects of my father and the org. In theory I guess Renee would be good company for someone who doesn't mind being dominated, and I would be good company for a cat.

LOL ---- I like cats.

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cult personality type?

by Mysterious in

jw
friends

another thing that has been intriguing me lately is the idea that cults can help sway people towards a certain personality type more towards a judging personality for example, or becoming more feeling rather than thinking.

i know my meyers-briggs type changed from istj when i was a jw to intj after i left.

i was curious if anyone else was aware of a similar shift in their actual measurable personality traits..maybe putting on the new personality is literal?

J-ex-W

Becca--- I didn't disappear. Just got quiet. So tired!

Tyrone--- What site did you do your test on? I like the ones that give percentages.