Posts by Justahuman24

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Revelation book reprints?

by jambon1 in

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i have just caught sight of one.

i thought that they were supposed to just rewrite stuff in their books out of that km insert a few months ago?.

do the reprints have the changed paragraphs?.

Justahuman24

I think so. I've heard that the new reprints - which aren't many - do have the changes included.

justahuman - but super nonetheless

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Name Some JW "Double Standards"

by minimus in

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here's one: you can't give blood but you can take a blood fraction (which someone else has to give).

Why doesn't someone write a letter to the WTS with all these "double standards" and see what the official response from the WTS is as opposed to each individual Witness and then they can post the answer on here. justahuman - but super nonetheless

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Baptism question.....

by lavendar in

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when a person gets close to being baptized, i understand he/she must go before the elders to answer some questions?

what exactly do the elders ask the person??.

lavendar .

Justahuman24

LFCV, it's a new development. It was added a few years ago like 2 or 3. I know that when I was baptized, it was a recent addition to the precedure. In fact, the questions were not in the green book but the elder who asked me the questions said that the WTS required that that question be asked "out of love and consideration for the brothers". justahuman - but super nonetheless

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Baptism question.....

by lavendar in

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friends

when a person gets close to being baptized, i understand he/she must go before the elders to answer some questions?

what exactly do the elders ask the person??.

lavendar .

Justahuman24

They don't ask directly if one has HIV or AIDS per se but they do ask if you have any "communicable" disease. They mainly do it for the ease of mind of the other members. They pretty much know that most JW's and most people for that matter are in the dark about how HIV is transmitted. So let's say if someone who has HIV gets baptized together with other people and then it's later publically known that that someone has HIV and had HIV at the time of baptism, then most likely some of the people who got baptized in the same pool as the one with HIV will be scared and be afraid that they may gave caught HIV. Granted, it's irrational for those people who know HIV isn't transmitted that easily if it were, people with HIV would be prohibited from going to the beach and swimming in public pools at parks.

I think the WTS should do a better job at educating its members how HIV and other diseases are transmitted so they won't freak out. Bcz what about someone who doesn't know they have HIV or someone who has another disease such as herpes, hepatitis but have no symtoms and don't know they have it?

justahuman - but super nonetheless

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Could satan be the good guy?

by LtCmd.Lore in

well i'm an atheist, so now i can feel free to think whatever i want without getting struck by lightning.

but i've been playing with this idea for quite a while:.

is satan just looking out for the poor little humans?

Justahuman24

Ltcm.Lore,

I beg to differ. The laungage barrier is just that, a barrier, and it has caused problems all through human history. What more can I say?

Language differences is not what causes wars. Was it language difference/barrier that caused war between England and the 13 colonies? Spain and its colonies? France and England? No. It was the greed of one of the groups or what was considered unfair treatment by the other group of people, many of whom spoke the same language and shared a very similar culture/heritage.

Religious wars have been caused by people too not God - again, excluding the wars of the Israelites which technically weren't religous wars because God himself told them treat the foreigners with kindness. It was the surrounding nations' hostility towards the Jews that made God throw them out of the Holy Land. The religious wars between Christians and Muslims and Jews have no biblical basis. It was people motivated. Jesus expressly said to his disciples to be peaceful. He was disobeyed. They wanted to have control of a land that didn't belong to them.

justahuman - but super nonetheless

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Could satan be the good guy?

by LtCmd.Lore in

well i'm an atheist, so now i can feel free to think whatever i want without getting struck by lightning.

but i've been playing with this idea for quite a while:.

is satan just looking out for the poor little humans?

Justahuman24

That Tower of Babel thing always made me wonder... 'why would god do that unless he felt threatened?'
Evidently Satan wasn't completely wrong, right?

Well, no. God didn't feel threatened. Look at us now. Technology is more advanced than ever before and we have even sent men to the moon and back many times. And have we been able to achieve peace among every human being? No. Can we build a Tower of Babel that reaches up to the heavens now that technology is way more advanced than it was at the time of the Tower of Babel? No.

Again, God didn't cause the wars of the nations. Yes, I made a mistake by not excluding the wars of the Israelites but you should've understood that what I meant was the wars that had nothing to do with Israel because God chose the Jews as His people back then and he wanted to protect them and give them a piece of land where they could live peacefully. Since he created the earth, he had ever right to give them any piece of land he wanted. He had every right to expell the Canaanites and the others as he pleased. But he didn't cause Hitler to kill the Jews nor did he cause the death of Archduke Ferdinand.

Also, Adam's and Eve imperfection was a result of their disobeying God's command. God didn't make them imperfect just bcz he wanted to. He did prevent them from eating from the tree of life because that way he would show them that they needed him and his protection. They were no longer perfect and as a result they died and grew old. And yeah, I'll explain to you how that works. Aren't you funny? You can call in all the scientists of the world and ask them to explain the process to you and the why of it and see if they can explain. they can't because no one knows exactly how it happens. Obviously, you can't ask someone to "prove" you something would've happened if that something din't happen in the first place. Would there have been a Holocaust if Hitler hadn't existed or come up with the idea? Sure the Jews have been persecuted through history but never to such an extent as during WWII.

justahuman - but super nonetheless

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Baptism and At What Age?

by karnage in

i have seen and noticed that most people who are raised as jw's get baptized at a young age.

ages like 14-19. how is it that someone can dedicate their life to jehovah at these ages, when maturity is still in development?

this seems to be something that jw's push and practice on a regular basis.

Justahuman24

Well, 6-12 yrs of age, I think it's too young to get baptized. 13-15 yrs of age, it's so-so. Some kids mature faster than others. But I think they allow kids to get baptized so young because they figure they're too young to do anything major, like commit fornication and the like. They figure they worst they can do is be rebellious at home and stuff like that, something that parents can deal with and that could hopefully be solved by punishing them or taking away things they want the most. And also, they figure since they're young, they'll do whatever to please their parents and if they grow up already baptized, then they THINK the chances of them leaving or becoming like "worldly kids" is not that high. Personally, not sure it works all the time.

justahuman - but super nonetheless

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want to request jw's to stop coming

by c5 in

hello!

i am looking for links, websites, and ideas of a good form letter to send to the local congregation to request that they stop calling.

thanks!

Justahuman24

Well, if you're not a Witness and you just don't want them to keep knocking on your door, just tell them next time they come knocking on your door to stop coming, that you're not interested and they'll make a note of it and and they'll know not to come back to your house.

justahuman - but super nonetheless

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Is Apostate/Apostasy Bibical?

by A-Team in

i'm trying to find the word in the new testiment, but i can't find the word noplace in my kjv or my greek version.

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does anyone know what i dont know?.

Justahuman24

No, A-Team. The WTS uses the word apostate for those people who have gotten baptized and became JW's but later left or were disfellowshiped, esp. if those that left start criticizing the WTS.

And it's not a "bad translation", it's just a transliteration. Like the word Apocalypse is a transliteration from the Greek. But its meaning is revelation, uncovering. Some Bibles do that. They transliterate a word and use it instead of actually translating the word.

justahuman - but super nonetheless

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What are your favorite bible bloopers ?

by 5go in

my favorite is the scripture matthew 27:9 jesus remembers the scripture correct but misatributes it to jeremiah.. it's at zechariah 11:12. all bibles have this mistake in it.

it's funny the nwt crossnotes it to zechariah and leaves the text alone so much for a better translation.

what yours favorite blooper ?.

Justahuman24

5go,

There is one possible explanation for the "blooper". But before I talk about it, let me first say. I'm at work and don't have a Bible at hand and don't remember what the scripture says. But you said that Jesus remember the text correct but attributed it to Jeremiah. Well, I don't remember Jesus speaking of that prophecy. I think it was Matthew who wrote about it and attributed it to Jeremiah, not Jesus.

In any case, the explanation is that back then, the Prophets's writings were all put together and it seems that Jeremiah was listed as the first one because of the length of his writings. And it's possible that because of that, Matthew said it was Jeremiah and not Zechariah but obviously, it's not a mistake because back then, he could've just checked who wrote down the prophecy. Had it been a mistake or "blooper", I'm sure it would've been fixed long ago. There are other such "bloopers" where Jacob did something but it was attributed to Abraham, probably because Abraham was the head of the family.

As to the mention of a "unicorn", that has to do more with the translation than a Bible "blooper". Some Bibles don't translate it as "unicorn". There are animals mentioned in the Old Testament that we don't know what they looked like or what they were or that the Hebrew word for it is not easily translated. No one think unicorns exist or existed.

justahuman - but super nonetheless