- How come the demons dont live in my older brothers cigarettes and porn collection?
- Isn't it funny how demons dont live in banknotes and coins that non-JWs might put into the contribution box?
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spoke to my younger brother dan yesterday (he da'd about 6 months ago).
he was telling me that he got a visit from our older brother the day before.
our older brother was raised a jw but never committed, lives a full-on "worldly" life - smokes, binge drinks, hangs out with non-jws, but he's been studying for about 6 years would you believe?.
- How come the demons dont live in my older brothers cigarettes and porn collection?
- Isn't it funny how demons dont live in banknotes and coins that non-JWs might put into the contribution box?
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paranormal stuff is common where my family is from it's almost expected.
native american background, my great grandmother was a witch doctor a damn good one too, my non witness relatives dabble in it.
so i have seen stuff and experienced stuff.
Whynot,
I cannot respond to that particular question. I donât live in or near the Irish/welsh legacy that formed the essence of my family. My early life was Catholic and did tend accept supernatural events and occasional prayers to saints. Obviously not connected to JWs.
Besides that âthe JW literature talks about Satan all the time but, unless memory fails me the narratives of the WT follow prefer to keep the paranormal in a more theoretical place. l cannot recall once when the WT writers maintained that an active JWs dealt with demons.
Itâs a tricky topicânot closely associated with scientific metering. Although these hauntings that that occur science explains: My sister moved out of s home after an incident in a closed roomâbut what she likely suffered from is a well known phenomenon: sleep paralysis . For her it was a ghost hound .to this day. Also..Isnât it acknowledged by science that sponanteous healings have occurred ?
In my earlier Catholic years the mystical and fantastic interventions of God or the saints was definitely the way l was given to explain matters. Now l see that the incidence of coincidences can be powerful l have to look at how l viewed everything that happened. I might, I could have superimposed a narrative without considering other natural factors surrounding these moments.
But the power of the mind âmaybe it does have some power.
That said, l wonder at the several moments of powerful sequential coincidences in my life experience .And l listen to the stories of strange events that others experience-an old German born pioneer sister had wild storiesâ and wonder. Is it a sense we have lost like a sense of smell? I just let it go now.
But the JW culture l believe keeps a lid on this topic no matter what cultural views you bring to it.
edit: Pale Emperor reminds us that the demons are alive and well in JW tradition . They live in used clothing and other second hand objects.
i had a deep conversation with my elder father today about the bible.
first i talked to him about luke 16:19-31. the one where jesus makes this crazy illustration regarding the afterlife.
of course he had to look it up on the watchtower library to be spoon fed his beliefs.
Yes, it's often this way. One eventually gets the idea that the beliefs don't really even matter.
the attached picture is historical.
the man on left is ari hakkarainen, representative of jw in finland.
the woman in middle is reporter susanna pÀivÀrinta and the lady at right is josefina pakomaa who was abused by family friend - a jw - when she was 11. a vicious apostate today.
That guy, Ari, is probably on the way out...l definitely want to watch what happens to him.
anyone that you miss from this site, dead or alive??.
i miss farkel, blondie and a host of others!.
I just read his profile, Simon. Really fine.
l feel a twinge if guilt when l think of how changes we go through can separate us. Tec for instance, TammyâI left the fundamentalist mindset and l she left the board after that Epic Thread on Theism and Suffering.
anyone that you miss from this site, dead or alive??.
i miss farkel, blondie and a host of others!.
When l looked back a while ago to see how far back somebody or other posted l also saw conversations that were different...
hi,i'm lost and a little sad.
i actually like the jw faith.
some might call this faith cold, strict, dogmatic but they're just trying to follow rules and give back to god.
Go on, zeb.
Tell us.
anyone that you miss from this site, dead or alive??.
i miss farkel, blondie and a host of others!.
Palmtree
shamus
tec
burntheships
at today's wt study about child baptism, someone commented and she pointed to the picture of the little girl playing with her teddy bear.
she said, 'she may be looking at her bear and thinking about getting to play with bears in the new system.
her parents notice this, and they decide since it's real to her she may be ready for baptism.
BINGO, Steve!
There are child baptisms in other religions - including of infants. The monumental difference with this religion is the "consequences" of the baptism follow the child well into adolescence and adulthood and provide the basis for being disfellowshipped.
JWâs used to say that they were not like the Catholic Church in infant baptism. But thatâs not true.
In the early 80s I was attending a Catholic Church in Nebraska. A priest where l attended mass said the church would nullify a marriage between young children as they were incapable of giving informed consent to the range of responsibilities that marriage vow required. I asked if on that basis they could rescind my infant baptism. ( l was refused communion for reasons not pertinent here)
...crickets
But to Steveâs pointâ Though l was effectively âdisfellowshippedâ from the Church still l could talk to anyone who wanted to talk to me. At the time it bothered me that l was barred from communion. But the JWconsequences of too-young baptismâas Steve saysâa crushing lifetime effect far worse than that of the Catholic Church-and no way out of it.
But think of it: why shouldnât a person be able to go through a tribunal similar to the Catholic Churchâs Marriage Tribunal to nullify a too-young baptism?
â could even charge money for it ( the Church did back then. Processing feesâ of course) Exed JWs could buy out of shunning! !!
Maybe l will write the GB a letter.....
just wanted to say a quick hello.
this was a pic yesterday on nurses week at henry ford with one of izabellaâs primaries.
the first pic was at her nicu graduation.
It seemed that you would know these things. And so you do! I just had to ask.
Things will go well . She will thrive.
This has been such a long hard go for you all. But that skin to skinâthere is nothing like it. Everything becomes s comfort-even the smells.( One of my kids talked about it .. )
Take care.
Maeve