DATA-DOG,
If we could vote God out, I'd vote you in---reverse Immaculate Conception! Disintegating angels!
Once we unplug from the mind-set it's funny as hell to think of it all.
Thanks for the laugh this morning.
Maeve
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the flood, mammoths, elphants, and food.
by Crazyguy inmy question is since it looks as though mammoths were alive after the flood and we know elephants are then how much food was needed to feed just these four animals for the time they were on the ark.
also was the ark, 500 feet long, big enough to hold the amount of food needed for just these 4 animals.. .
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Thanks BLONDIE !!!
by Zoos inwhenever i need to find a watchtower quote in a hurry i hop over to jwn real quick and do a topic search knowing blondie will have posted exactly what i'm looking for.. .
thanks for your diligence, .
it really helps!.
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Blondie--
You do the dirty work for me.. when I wonder what "they" are reading and what is real. Thanks.
Maeve
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I loathe authority
by punkofnice innow i'm not preaching hatred here i am just expressing how i've felt for years even when i was a jw.. i totally loathe the police/policticians...any authority......anyone that is over anyone else.
i have a total hatred of them all.
i wonder if it's because i was raised a jw?.
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Good thought from Tolkien, BluePill2!
Running for office in the U.S.A. may produce people the least fit to hold it. Big money interests have far too much control over politics. Money is bigger than ever.
Vidiot, I think there is corruption legally built into some systems, for sure. It was unarguably true during slavery and Jim Crow.
When it's legal, it's hardly questioned. But I think it is going to boil over as you said in spite of the tight lid the authorities try to put on it. We are in a pressure cooker with way too much heat under us-- so much is not being properly cared for. The prisons are full and so are the jails. Many of us all over the world are having a hell of a time feeling as though we are able to have any effect on government authority. I feel bad for our kids.
Heavy handed authority and more jails will not answer the problems. But it is the part that is blowing up in a lot of places in the U.S. Arkansas is havig prison/jail problems.
Sorry to run on-- this topic hits a nerve
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I loathe authority
by punkofnice innow i'm not preaching hatred here i am just expressing how i've felt for years even when i was a jw.. i totally loathe the police/policticians...any authority......anyone that is over anyone else.
i have a total hatred of them all.
i wonder if it's because i was raised a jw?.
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Good thought from Tolkien, BluePill2!
Running for office in the U.S.A. may produce people the least fit to hold it. Big money interests have far too much control over politics. Money is bigger than ever.
Vidiot, I think there is corruption legally built into some systems, for sure. It was unarguably true during slavery and Jim Crow.
When it's legal, it's hardly questioned. But I think it is going to boil over as you said in spite of the tight lid the authorities try to put on it. We are in a pressure cooker with way too much heat under us-- so much is not being properly cared for. The prisons are full and so are the jails. Many of us all over the world are having a hell of a time feeling as though we are able to have any effect on government authority. I feel bad for our kids.
Heavy handed authority and more jails will not answer the problems. But it is the part that is blowing up in a lot of places in the U.S. Arkansas is havig prison/jail problems.
Sorry to run on-- this topic hits a nerve
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Well, it was a fine week to LEAVE!
by RagingBull in....well, i was going to wait.
go out with a bang!?
i decided (like many others this week!
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A great day. You'll never regret leaving.
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bull poop
by snare&racket inglad to see the forum is going strong, lots of new names and stories......and it has only been a couple of months!.
the wt really has no chance in such a world of free and accessible information.
keep fighting guys, the freedom once you are loose of the governing body is awesome, you will be amazed how long you ignored the stench off bullshit as your ability to smell it returns.. and on that note ;) x. .
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Hello, Snare! good to see you!
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Jehovah's Witness pioneer admits to a bible study he WOULD KILL HIS SON if told to by Watchtower leaders.
by Watchtower-Free inhttp://blog.evidenceministries.org/obey-part-2-a-conversation-with-a-jehovahs-witness-pioneer/.
obey!
part 2: a conversation with a jehovahs witness pioneeraugust 26, 2014 9:45 am.
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SoP--
Heb. 11:19 "Abraham reasoned that God could even raise the dead..."
WatchtowerFree--
The illustration of Abraham/Isaac is peculiarly anti-religion, anti-hierarchy, anti-Brooklynn-committee-vote----an unmediated moment.
Only viewing the matter from the WRITTEN account, the drama of Genesis 22 was enacted before the NT profile of God was established--before even OT ideas were set forth with prescribed guidelines for animal offerings. Of course, later it is written that God hated human sacrifice, didn't lie, did not use evil to test humans. So Abraham was winging it
But this point: If Abraham had been under the mediation of the FDS, waiting for new-light to redirect him from his intent to slay Isaac, he would have ignored any angel trying to stop him and plunged the knife ino his son---OOOPS!!
Whether or not you buy into the christian story--this story shows one mind responding freely without the direction of committee action (for pete's sake he barely spoke to his son and not at all to his wife!!).
Just saying.... The Abraham story shows how mistaken our thought of divine direction can be and how necessary it is to listen to the angels of our better nature when things are about to go too far......
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Your very own "piece on earth". Happy for you and well done!
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Divorcing my husband of 13 years...
by 2pink inmy husband and i were both born ins.
i left in 2009, and he followed me out a bit later.
we were one of those couples who followed the script, married young and ended up having nothing in common other than the religion.
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My husband and I had seven children together.
When 3 of them were grown out of the home he and I hit a wall that had been building in our marriage. He was not regularly living at home at the time and there were pretty grave difficulties on so many fronts including the need for help with one severely troubled teen.
I believe he and I needed counseling, definitely. DEFINITELY. But if one's spouse refuses it and there is alcohol involved, well--that is rough. We were very much estranged over the next several years. We lived quite separately for 6 years. The psychological issues that rose out of our marital discord has had lasting impact on the children-and they are all grown now.
My husband and I have been married 38 years now. We are together and working to understand our past. We discussed even this morning our failing to provide a happier home in the latter years of family life than we had. Poverty is troubling to be sure, the JWs was a very negative contribution (mine) and his long involvement with breaking and training horses and its complications and burdens.
We all came together, in spite of everything because we do love each other, and have learned some forgiveness, humility, and honest vocal regret.
I am reluctant to say what is certainly the best road to travel for another, but it is certain that untreated emotional pain that you or others in the family have to bear, well--those chickens do come home to roost. Deal with the whole picture as best you can and grab counseling the sooner the better.
Try to be fair and honest as you go along. Which includes not beating up on yourself either.
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I loathe authority
by punkofnice innow i'm not preaching hatred here i am just expressing how i've felt for years even when i was a jw.. i totally loathe the police/policticians...any authority......anyone that is over anyone else.
i have a total hatred of them all.
i wonder if it's because i was raised a jw?.
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Punky--
what you said about the corrupting effect of silence is so true. Law enforcement becomes criminal when it will not allow internal complaints.
An easy look into the pressures and persecution of honest law enforcement is the 2010 film called "The Whistleblower" about a cop in the U.N. who reported on sex-trafficking in Bosnia. Kathryn Bolkovac was an American who found what U.N. officials were covering up and tried to do her job of protecting exploited girls and women.
See what the authorities did to her.
It is everywhere. I have seen this everywhere from where I worked in nursing homes or factories or in agricultural field work--Anywhere where a lot of power over other's jobs and lives rests in relatively few hands.