This cotton-wool comment sounds like a complaint l heard from a young brother who returned home from Bethel: “biggest problem is finding young guys who really know how to work hard. “ l believe he said they let some fellows go home because they couldn’t cut it.
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Cotton wool jws
by purrpurr inthere was a talk i heard recently given by a top bethel bro, he was complaining that the type of young jws that have been joining bethel in recent years has been totally unfit for work or even life.
he called them "cotton wool jws" as he says that the parents of these young ones have kept them so sheltered from life that by the time they are of age to strike out on their own they are completely unable to cope socially, emotionally, mentally and that they have no practical life's skills or instincts of common sense or responsibility.
he said that the brothers at bethel have to work at peeling off the layers of cotton wool these ones have come wrapped in and that often when exposed to the reality of life away from mummy they quite literally go running back home.. for once i actually agree with a brother on the platform, i've met many a young teen or young adult whose life has been one long warm bath as it were.
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Has anyone got a good recipe for curry, for a curry novice?
by Diogenesister ini really enjoy cooking but one thing i've never mastered is curry.
i've tried a few online recipes but they haven't turned out too well.
there's nothing better than a tried and tested, handed down ( or over!
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Watching this space for recipe. I haven’t a clue how to make the magic
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A Writer's Graveyard
by compound complex inimmersed in dickens and hawthorne, i cannot easily shake off the dusty antiquity of a bygone era.
however, its scant reality inhabits, not the present, but my sad hearkening back to the shadows of long ago.. hot blood pulses anew within fingers i thought stilled forever in a writer's graveyard of unwritten verse.
it is a reluctant awakening to a life much sadder than that endured by storybook friends who cannot see me, know me.. permit me, therefore, to reenter that precious twilight betwixt my present and the past, the faraway there of dearly departed poets.
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That image you posted, if it were of myself, reflects the effort it took to let thoughts flow directly, without religious ox-bows that warped around forbidden impulses or perceptions.The floods of feelings l had were ever hitting snags piled up by regulations, the finger waggles of old holy men.
The muse avoids us when we post “no trespassing”signs to ward off our genuine feelings.
To create poetry —even fiction—as long as we are not lying to ourselves as we write.
Strong fiction tells truth.
l am fighting for truth now that l have left religion behind.
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This Article Won't Change Your Mind - Great Read
by cofty inthis article won’t change your mind - the facts on why facts alone can’t fight false beliefs.
brilliant article in the atlantic by julie beck discussing the phenomena of cognitive dissonance and how it affects religious and political beliefs.
it includes some interesting thoughts on how social media has magnified the problem.. spoiler - she is not optimistic about the possibility of successfully reasoning with members of religious cults.. the article also has a link to the 45 minute audio version.. link....
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facts are important but it's our emotions that will sway us. —sparrowdown
- This is all can think of with the mindset we had to cult- ivate.
- This is all can think of with the mindset we had to cult- ivate.
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Spiritual "Protection" - a Menace on Psychological Development
by Wake Me Up Before You Jo-Ho innot quite a week ago, @lost in the fog created a thread entitled: do you have this illness?.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5187824140681216/do-you-have-this-illness.
in my year of being on this forum, i have browsed many a disillusioned thread of ex-jehovah’s witnesses expressing similar symptoms of post traumatic stress disorder when detailing their awakening - my own story included.
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Wondered where you were, wake me. I get it... having to “den up” my oldest girl says. Sometimes it isn’t a full-on depression but a conserving of one’s strength and healing that we need quiet.
l am only guessing. But l am glad you checked in. Take care.
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Anybody here still believe in the bible?
by Mel Morris ini'm a current bible student of jw's looking to chat with someone about biblical doctrine.
i'm not interested in talking with an apostate or a fader, i'm just a person looking for answers and wondered if there are any neutral voices in this forum who have good insights into the bible.
i currently talk with a couple of jw's on a personal level from my congregation and they are knowledgeable to a certain extent, but i dare not ask them certain questions because, as you know, the congregation has a culture of fear that impacts trust and openness, especially concerning biblical doctrine or the societies teachings.
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Ttings aren't that cut and dry, i'm actually called "The Borean" in my congregation because I dabble a bit in ancient Hebrew, and I own a strong's concordance and various extra-biblical/historical resources.
You say you aren’t wise enough to make it on your own without religion? Our discovery is that it is less desirable to follow blind men than to fall down on our own.
l reposted your comments. You clearly did not respond to mine. You may not care to. But my own earnest concern for truth and honesty took me away from religion which ultimately is pleased to see followers seem to read scripture as long as they do not think “independently “.
So you effectively are to follow men but do not try to follow Jesus.
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Why Punk of Nice as a name?
by punkofnice inthere.
my secret is out..... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9dmkui8tphg.
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Nice, Punky. Makes sense to me.
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What you reckon? (I'm talking in my normal accent)
by punkofnice inthere was this really lovely old geezer in a congregation i was in here in the uk.. he was an old bloke and very frit of giving talks and that.
when he was on the platform he'd be bleedin' scared...like an elephant near a bloody mouse.. so, 'ere's my question, right?
blimey.
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It’s hard to say for him, punky. He may Be was glad. He is the only one could say—if he would say truly.
I knew a young fellow who fainted when he gave one of his first talks. Those who saw it said his sentences begin to slide around and he lost color and went down like a cut tree. They did the Watchtower study so he could recover. Then he finished the talk.
He is still in.
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Anybody here still believe in the bible?
by Mel Morris ini'm a current bible student of jw's looking to chat with someone about biblical doctrine.
i'm not interested in talking with an apostate or a fader, i'm just a person looking for answers and wondered if there are any neutral voices in this forum who have good insights into the bible.
i currently talk with a couple of jw's on a personal level from my congregation and they are knowledgeable to a certain extent, but i dare not ask them certain questions because, as you know, the congregation has a culture of fear that impacts trust and openness, especially concerning biblical doctrine or the societies teachings.
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You will be faced with either believing the Bible or else believing the Governing Body.
The culture of fear you face is because “Perfect love casts out fear” and the WT is all about conditional love. The fear you see is that any time someone remarks “ this isn’t what the Bible says” the elders will mark you as a trouble maker instead of a serious Christian.
For instance if you were to point this out:
The policy for the Anointed ones was changed in recent times. The Revelation 14 verses that identify these individuals says they follow the Lamb wherever He goes. But they are obliged to follow the Governing Body wherever IT goes. Isn’t this a contradiction?
Conflict. You will find many such problems in the doctrine of this religion.
You will have no freedom of worship in the WT religion. This is aside from what l personally believe at this moment.
Ask your questions now if you plan to join. You will not be free to question later without paying the price many of us paid: disfellowshipped and shunned.
But we are free to believe or not- honestly.
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This Article Won't Change Your Mind - Great Read
by cofty inthis article won’t change your mind - the facts on why facts alone can’t fight false beliefs.
brilliant article in the atlantic by julie beck discussing the phenomena of cognitive dissonance and how it affects religious and political beliefs.
it includes some interesting thoughts on how social media has magnified the problem.. spoiler - she is not optimistic about the possibility of successfully reasoning with members of religious cults.. the article also has a link to the 45 minute audio version.. link....
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groups are usually better at coming up with the correct answers to reasoning tasks than individuals are.
Of course, the wisdom of groups is probably diminished if everyone in a group already agrees with each other.
“One real advantage of group reasoning is that you get critical feedback,” McIntyre says. “If you’re in a silo, you don’t get critical feedback, you just get applause.”This can happen in religion or in any community—If there is a group leader who dominates. As was said“If you’re in a silo, you don’t get critical feedback, you just get applause.”
Great article.