i'm not proud of the fact that it took me over 50 years to realized what the organization really was and to finally leave it.
not proud at all, i feel pretty stupid.
however i didn't lose my children.
New Boy, You did the best you could. That you left at all says it.
Your kids are not seasoned in life. Maybe never will go through anything like you did— not even a divorce is thehrad f**k that religion is. And theJW religion! Whew! A closed system. Wow.
Just hold your peace. Considering all, they should just love the hell out of you.
from the shepard the flock book.
"discernment is needed in considering claims.
of rape, taking into consideration such factors as the.
Amelia, l am so sorry! There is nothing l write that can say anything properly. Indeed l write and erase over and over.
My heart goes out to you. That is all. ((((Amelia❤️🌺)))
i was thinking about how the borg screws up and sexually neuters their flock by telling them when single to "deaden their body" and then boom as soon as there's a ring on the finger to not be denying eachother.. do any of you know of jws who have been screwed up by these teachings?
i know 2, 1 elder came back from honeymoon having a nervous breakdown unable to cope with the cd that sex produced in his head.
and the other called up her parents while on honeymoon, crying and begging for themto come and get her, since she was so shocked that sex hurt.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9vpqilhw9ui.
There was a discussion here recently ( couldn’t find it) on IQ.
This seemed relevant so ...here it is.
i just want to say something which the vast majority of jw's who are active, fading , hard-core, doubting or what have you who don't know about malawi and mexico.
i'm just ''over generalizing'' by saying the above, about most jw's who don't know about the mexico/malawi scandal.
i strongly encourage any jw who is doubting or ''wondering'' about this ''organization'' to browse jwfacts.com.. just watched the john cedars rebuttal of the 2018 regional convention the sunday program.
As l was waiting for the ax to fall after l sent the elders a letter, l read Crisis of Conscience. That piece of hypocrisy you mention was stunning. That the Malawi brothers and sisters endured all that you said while the GB gave the Mexican Witnesses an “out”.
WHY?
Every piece of teaching their WTBS sent out was to convince us of the non-negotiable integrity of the organization.
Everything was absolute. Absolutely no blood -absolutely no birthdays -no holidays no association with unbelievers or churches -absolutely absolutely everything.
But they were absolutely inconsistent about this. And people died and were raped and were tortured.
Evil. Absolutely.
it seems that many believe that a liberal in the usa must be a democrat, pretty much following the party core teachings and some even think it means approving the party history of, during the 19th century, supporting or tolerated slavery and opposing civil rights reforms after the civil war.
some even insist that a liberal loves anything and everything obama did..
balderdash!!.
People are people and they don't typically fit nicely into broad categories.—OTWO
Well, your thread is still right-side up, OTWO. Your reminder above is necessary for respectful give-and- take.
More specifically, the proslavery South was Democrat until recently, now is Republican. Am I supposed to believe that Southerners have become enlightened by switching parties. I don't think so. Racist views remain for generations and have very little to do with Democrat or Republican labels.—neverajw
good point
the only thing that makes sense, is for people to vote regardless of political parties, and start voting based on individual character, competency and position on issues.—redvip
I wish.
it seems that many believe that a liberal in the usa must be a democrat, pretty much following the party core teachings and some even think it means approving the party history of, during the 19th century, supporting or tolerated slavery and opposing civil rights reforms after the civil war.
some even insist that a liberal loves anything and everything obama did..
balderdash!!.
Good try OTWO.
I wish there were a way to talk about issues without someone checking to see your political card, your “team”.
I don’t wear a football jersey when l just want to punt an idea around with others on the forum.
there was a talk i heard recently given by a top bethel bro, he was complaining that the type of young jws that have been joining bethel in recent years has been totally unfit for work or even life.
he called them "cotton wool jws" as he says that the parents of these young ones have kept them so sheltered from life that by the time they are of age to strike out on their own they are completely unable to cope socially, emotionally, mentally and that they have no practical life's skills or instincts of common sense or responsibility.
he said that the brothers at bethel have to work at peeling off the layers of cotton wool these ones have come wrapped in and that often when exposed to the reality of life away from mummy they quite literally go running back home.. for once i actually agree with a brother on the platform, i've met many a young teen or young adult whose life has been one long warm bath as it were.
This cotton-wool comment sounds like a complaint l heard from a young brother who returned home from Bethel: “biggest problem is finding young guys who really know how to work hard. “ l believe he said they let some fellows go home because they couldn’t cut it.
i really enjoy cooking but one thing i've never mastered is curry.
i've tried a few online recipes but they haven't turned out too well.
there's nothing better than a tried and tested, handed down ( or over!
Watching this space for recipe. I haven’t a clue how to make the magic
immersed in dickens and hawthorne, i cannot easily shake off the dusty antiquity of a bygone era.
however, its scant reality inhabits, not the present, but my sad hearkening back to the shadows of long ago.. hot blood pulses anew within fingers i thought stilled forever in a writer's graveyard of unwritten verse.
it is a reluctant awakening to a life much sadder than that endured by storybook friends who cannot see me, know me.. permit me, therefore, to reenter that precious twilight betwixt my present and the past, the faraway there of dearly departed poets.
That image you posted, if it were of myself, reflects the effort it took to let thoughts flow directly, without religious ox-bows that warped around forbidden impulses or perceptions.The floods of feelings l had were ever hitting snags piled up by regulations, the finger waggles of old holy men.
The muse avoids us when we post “no trespassing”signs to ward off our genuine feelings.
To create poetry —even fiction—as long as we are not lying to ourselves as we write.
Strong fiction tells truth.
l am fighting for truth now that l have left religion behind.
