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  Identity of 'Spiritual Israel'

  by Jr in

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  in order to qualify as spiritual israel there has to be certain fundamental characteristics or basic truths.

  these basic truths are revealed in the law covenant given by moses.

  and can be traced down from the nation of israel, down through the 1st century congregation, and further down until our day and time.

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  Sirit and Truth

  Jesus said I am the way, the TRUTH, and the life; no one comes to the Father except through Me. John 14;6

  When the Helper comes, whom I will send to you from the Father, that is the Spirt and truth, who proceeds from the Father, He will bear witness of Me,.... John 15:25

  The Man Jesus is not the Father
  The Man Jesus has been bestowed the highest name of all, which is
  The name YHWH.(Philipians 2:5-11) The same name he had when he was not a Man. (Zech. 11:12-12) On His second coming, as described in Zecheriah 14:3-4 YHWH will put his feet on the geographical place called the Mount of Olives. Quote from NWT. 3."And Jehovah will certainly go forth and war against those nations as in the day of his warring, in the day of his fihgt, 4.And his feet will actually stand in that day upon the mount of the olive trees, which is front of Jerusalem, on the east and the mountain of the olive trees must be split at it's middle, from the sunrising and to the west. There will be a very great valley; and half of the mountain will actually be moved to the north, and half to the south."

  This is the same YHWH who is speaking in Zech.11:12-13 who said was being valued at 30 pieces of silver, the price which he was turned over to the Romans for crucifixion.And this is the same YHWH who is saying about His second coming in Zech.12;10.."you will look upon ME whom they(the Israelites' ancestors)have pierced". The same YHWH is described coming in Rev.1:7-8 "Look he is coming with the clouds, and every eye will see him, and those who pierced him; and all the tribes of the earth will beat themselves in grief because of him. Yes, Amen. "I am the Alpha and the Omega" says Jehovah God, " the One who is and was and who is coming, the Almighty" This One who is coming is the First and the Last who bacame dead, mentioned in verses 17-18 and who is living forever and ever.

  This First and the Last is the Same Alpha and Omega who has been described in Rev.1:8 as the Almighty. He is identified as coming with his reward in Rev.22:12 "Look! I am coming quickly, and the reward I give is with me, to render to each one as his work is".
  Who is this one who is speaking about coming with the reward?It is non other than the Alpha and the Omega who speaks about coming in Ch.1:8 and the First and the Last who became dead in Ch. 1:17-18 How do we know that the First and the Last from verses 17-18, is the same as the "Jehovah" described as the "Alpha and the Omega" coming with the clouds in verse 7 of the same Ch.1 and as the "Almighty" who is coming inverse 8? The Bible is very clear about weather or not this "Alpha and Omega" is the "First and the Last".
  Rev. 22:13 States it this way: " I an the Alpha and the Omega, the First and the Last, the beginning and the end". The Chapter concludes reafirming that this One who is to come, is the LORD JESUS, the man who has been bestowed Name which is above all Names (YHWH), that all knee should bow to the name of Jesus the man. Rev. 22:20-21 concludes. "He who testifies to these things says,"Yes, I am coming quickly." Amen. Come, Lord Jesus. The grace of the Lord Jesus be with all. Amen.

  Believers have faith in this promise, that the Alpha and the Omega, Jehovah, is coming and quickly! Yes, Jesus is coming quickly!

  Come Lord Jesus! Amen

  Emiliano
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  Church congregation gets warm on a winter night

  by Gopher in

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  from abcnews.com, monday march 26th:.

  the congregation of a church in suburban pittsburgh gathered around a bonfire sunday night to burn harry potter books, disney videos, rock cds and literature from other religions, purging their lives of things they felt stood between them and their faith.

  "our purpose comes out of the bible," the rev.

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  Emiliano

  They were
  burning evil "apostate" literature from Jehovah's Witnesses.
  would have been how I would have written it.

  thanks for the post.
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  Identity of 'Spiritual Israel'

  by Jr in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in order to qualify as spiritual israel there has to be certain fundamental characteristics or basic truths.

  these basic truths are revealed in the law covenant given by moses.

  and can be traced down from the nation of israel, down through the 1st century congregation, and further down until our day and time.

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  Hi James,

  I guess no one is responding to your last post.
  I pretty much agree with your comments on "Spiritual Israel".
  So my answer would be that, yes I believe also.

  I believe God knows who these people are. But like you say it is not
  identified as one single and exclusive group or assosication of people. It could be anyone who is a true believer in Christ Jesus. These people are taken from all who may profess be believers worldwide. Only God knows who the real ones are.

  Emiliano
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  Okay .... my turn

  by RR in

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  all this talk about the gb, and it being all white, well herd is a black man, so you afro-americans happy?

  huh?

  what i want to know is when is there going to be a puerto rican on the governing body, what, they afraid bethel will be serving rice and beans all day?

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  Francios

  I wouldnt be surprized to see some try to start a movement like that, now that the shoe is starting to be on the other foot.
  Is the shoe fitting a little uncomfortable?
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  What about those who commit suicide???

  by nogs in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the wts say that those who commit suicide commit a grave act toward god and will be everlastingly cut-off.

  where does that idea come from and where is the compassion of ones when the person just could not go on living anymore????.

  i felt like ending it alot of times, the jws made me feel ugly, stupid and unworthy individual, i lost all my confidence and never felt that anyone would want to marry me as i was so flawed.

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  Hi Naomi,

  That is great that you left the watchtower.
  The best thing you could have done to escape mental, and emotional
  abuse. Im sure the watchtower is the cause of many psychologial problems. I see a big problem in dialogueing with other people in this site. I think they have been brain damaged, I say this in true sympathy and not as a put down! But I see a lot of circular reasoning going on. If you have time to read the Spiritual Israel topic you may see what I mean. Anyways, it sounds like you are truly starting to enjoy your life. The great thing about being free, is that you have an infinite choice of people you can choose to be your friends. People who are not toxic to your soul. Positive people will enrich your life even more. Learn from your experince of having been in a cult, and use it to your advantage in preventing any negative group dynamic experineces.

  I wish you the best and may God continue blessing your life. Keep the faith in God.
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  Okay .... my turn

  by RR in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  all this talk about the gb, and it being all white, well herd is a black man, so you afro-americans happy?

  huh?

  what i want to know is when is there going to be a puerto rican on the governing body, what, they afraid bethel will be serving rice and beans all day?

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  Emiliano

  Hi RR

  Just wondering, is the Bible Students web page there just for resource information or do you endorse and adhere to their beliefs?
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  Okay .... my turn

  by RR in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  all this talk about the gb, and it being all white, well herd is a black man, so you afro-americans happy?

  huh?

  what i want to know is when is there going to be a puerto rican on the governing body, what, they afraid bethel will be serving rice and beans all day?

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  Orale, RR

  I think they feel that they wouldnt be able to keep up with all new hymns in a Salsa beat!
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  Identity of 'Spiritual Israel'

  by Jr in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in order to qualify as spiritual israel there has to be certain fundamental characteristics or basic truths.

  these basic truths are revealed in the law covenant given by moses.

  and can be traced down from the nation of israel, down through the 1st century congregation, and further down until our day and time.

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  agent2863
  
  Good point! I thought no one else was having problems with these guy's wierd logic.

  Emiliano
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  Identity of 'Spiritual Israel'

  by Jr in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in order to qualify as spiritual israel there has to be certain fundamental characteristics or basic truths.

  these basic truths are revealed in the law covenant given by moses.

  and can be traced down from the nation of israel, down through the 1st century congregation, and further down until our day and time.

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  Emiliano

  Ianao,

  Why should you care about what people think?
  One should care about how God sees us. If one has faith in Jesus Christ we become a new creation. We won't be perfect. Not until God is finished working in us. When we are resurrected. We are all a work in progress some of us progress slow others not so slow. The struggle is between the innerman and the flesh. Romans 7:21-25Paul describes his struggle with this same issue. "I find then the principle that evil is present in me, the one who wishes to do good. For I joyfully concur with the laaw of God in the inner man, but I see in the members of my body, waging war against the law of my mind, and making me a prisoner of the law of sin which is in my members. Wretched man that I am! Who will set me free from this body of death? Thanks be to God through Jesus Christ our Lord! So then , on the one hand I myself wiht my mind am serving the law of God, but on the other, with my flesh the law of sin." The solution and relief comes in Chapter 8:1 There is therefore NO CONDEMNATION who are in Christ Jesus,..... "if you get a chance read the rest of the chapter. I dont really know exactly where you're coming from with your question. Maybe I'm missing a 3rd post. Why would you be considered a worker of iniquity by anyone ? I dont have the full story. I hate the sin but I dont look down on anyone or hate any "sinner" . Jesus died for sinners that we may be saved.

  Christians shouldnt feel like they are better than anyone else!
  And if someone here is makeing you feel that by what they've said I wouldn't let it bother me. We are all a work in progress.

  Emiliano
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  Identity of 'Spiritual Israel'

  by Jr in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  in order to qualify as spiritual israel there has to be certain fundamental characteristics or basic truths.

  these basic truths are revealed in the law covenant given by moses.

  and can be traced down from the nation of israel, down through the 1st century congregation, and further down until our day and time.

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  oanai, sorry I accidentaly pressed, reply.

  ..... a group,"the ones who feel themselves to be in his favor?"