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  my inactive family hates that I researched why the jws are wrong

  by sosad in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  they don't want to hear it, they think i am being hurtful having so many books about cults, jws in particular etc etc.

  i never talk about it but they saw my bookshelves in my office during a recent visit and are besides themselves.

  they want to know where the anit catholic literature is - (my husband and kids are catholic, i am not).

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  Jenlet

  "they want to know where the anit catholic literature is"

  In my own case I am interested in researching the history of the Watchtower Society because I was raised a JW. I am not so interested in the history of the Catholic church, since I was never raised in it. That's not to say that the Catholic church hasn't made mistakes. It's just saying that the mistakes of the Watchtower Society have directly affected me in a way that the mistakes of the Catholic church have not.

  Assuming your reasoning is something like mine, you could say, "Well, I was raised a JW, so I am particularly interested in researching the history of that religion. If you're looking to criticize the Catholic church you can talk to my husband - he's Catholic so he should be able to discuss you concerns".

  I have a similar family history. I was the first of four kids, and the only one baptised. I find my siblings to be strangely supportive of the religion despite never having done anything about it. I think they have a rosy picture of it since they have never really been hurt by it. I find I have to couch my words around them, maybe even more so than around active JWs.
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  Why I will NEVER be an elder again

  by stillajwexelder in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  so the po confirmed what many on this board already know.

  at latest round of co to elders meeting, the co quoted from the society outline.

  any elder or ms who encourages college for his kids or others or who allows his children to go to college will no longer qualify.. he then asked if i was going to take the cos encouragement and reach out again to be an elder and get my hours on the ministry up.. i replied "i will never be an elder again - i strongly approve of further education and college and have been through college myself.

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  Jenlet

  Good for you.
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  Notes from Losch's talk during "zone visit" to Hawaii (from my mother)

  by Lady Zombie in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my mother forwarded me this e-mail yesterday.

  i've copied and pasted it exactly as i got it.. -------------------------------.

  notes from bro.

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  Jenlet

  I want to go on an all expenses paid working vacation to Hawaii in January, too.

  How can I get his job?

  I'm convinced that I'm qualified, since I too have ideas about "radiation".
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  Observations about dubs as people...

  by Princess Daisy Boo in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i was thinking back on some of the people i knew growing up, as well as my own family - many of whom are dubs... tell me what your own experiences are of these kind of people, did you notice a large prevalence of these types of people in the congs you attended:.

  1. health nuts: into all sorts of alternative health theories like iridology, reflexology, homeopathy etc?

  2. get rich quick folk: always getting involved in this scheme or that, this business or that - especially pyramid type things?.

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  Jenlet

  Yes, in our case it was Tupperware. Some of the elder's wives sold it.

  My dad was well-off so my mom and I were always invited to the Tupperware parties. We were expected to buy, which we always did. As a result, we amassed a huge collection of Tupperware.

  I could never understand why we didn't just give these women $50, and ask them to keep the Tupperware. Buying the Tupperware was really just charity on our part, anyway.
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  What's the BEST thing about being "out" of the "truth"?

  by B_Deserter in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  for me, it's having friends that i don't have to hide my lack of meeting attendance/service from.

  it's amazing how they teach you that only jws can be your real friends, but in reality, it's all contingent upon your religious "performance.

  " sure, if you're not going to meetings, they'll try to be "friends," by encouraging you to go back.

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  Jenlet

  I think the best thing is the ability to be open and honest about how I feel about things. Stupid little things, like I enjoy listing to Rush. When I was a JW I couldn't say that, since it could "stumble" someone.

  It is really nice to be able to speak freely.
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  Thank you, Watchtower, Bible and Tract Society!

  by David_R in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i wanted to say thank you to the wbts for enforcing a 'no-contact' rule on all those that have left the organization.. only by experiencing first-hand my former best-friends treating me like a complete stranger (see 'garbage') for standing up for my own beliefs was i finally able to tell the society 'good-bye' forever and not feel guilty about it.. i know this was not the wbts's intention from the alienation practice.

  it's intention was to make me feel guilty and lonely enough to come back to them.

  however, it has backfired on them and finally given me my freedom.. thank you, society, for lacking kindness and understanding.

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  Jenlet

  "bull crap and more bull crap who do you think youre fooling, they will all lap up this sob story"

  What is the meaning of this trash?
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  I Do Not Understand Why JWs Leave & Become Catholics!

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  out of all religions, catholicism, to me, is wrong and clearly could never be the truth.

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  Jenlet

  "The belief that Mary worship is acceptable is counter to all Bible teaching. Infant sprinkling and baptism is unscriptural. Forbidding the clergy to marry or have children is a perversion of scripture and we can go on and on."

  Wow, you are certainly well trained by the WTS ... these are some of the most well-worn anti-Catholic chestnuts in existence.

  May I make a book suggestion? "Catholicism and Fundamentalism" by Karl Keating is a good piece of Catholic apologetics, in my opinion. Keating responds to your concerns directly, and I think very well.

  I am not Catholic but I found this book interesting.
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  How to make love & marriage work w/a JW

  by StillinLove in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  please dont comment saying to "run" or "get out while i can" thank you im not new to this, so i can handel it.

  i have been with my boyfriend for 3 years, we started dating in high school and now i am going to college and he is working.

  i am 20 and he is 21, i was raised catholic but my mom and i are too open minded for the church so we left.

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  Jenlet

  "Most anyone who is religous beleives the same thing, premarital sex is wrong ... So if you want to say that it shows him to be immoral than so are most people."

  I think the main issue is not the sex, but the duplicity. Your boyfriend is a practiced, compulsive liar. He is leading a double life. If he is so successful at deceiving his family and fellow believers, is he not capable of deceiving you as well?
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  If the G.B. and WTS don't have good motives, what is the point.....

  by Mightyone in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  this may be the topic of an old thread but, if the g.b.

  and wts don't have good motives, what is the point of the whole religion?

  i mean, it doesn't appear that anybody is getting rich or am i missing something.

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  Jenlet

  Forgive me for being incredulous, but can't you guess at an answer to your question "what is the point"?

  The Watchtower Society is like any other major multi-national corporation based in New York, like Merrill Lynch, Pepsi, IBM, TIAA-CREF... the list goes on.

  Regardless of the current financial outlook, those corporations need to survive another day so the management and workers can continue to get paid and everybody can remain employed.

  Every company is ultimately in the business of making money and the WTS is no exception. The point is to manage the organization such that it is profitable.

  I suggest that you read Crisis of Conscience. The author does a good job of explaining the desirable lifestyle enjoyed by the Watchtower senior management team.
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  If you believe in nothing, then how do you know JW's are wrong?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many who leave the witnesses go on to affirm other recognisable sets of beliefs.

  some become christians of various sorts, others tend toward patriotism as a kind of rejection of the anti-patriotic stance of the watchtower, while yet more simply affirm in general the secular values of mainstream society.

  do you believe jehovah's witnesses are wrong?

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  Jenlet

  It seems that you are still somewhat associated with JWs. I'm guessing that others / outsiders, i.e. co-workers, "worldly" relatives, think of you as a JW.

  Just a thought - if you get the response "I believe in nothing" from a relative, for example, you may simply have met someone that doesn't want to engage a JW in yet another religious debate. You haven't necessarily met someone that believes in "nothing".