How about that prohibition in Leviticus (?) on wearing two different types of fabric together. All those brothers wearing wool over coats with courderoy (sp) pants should be reproved.
erandir
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Point out biblical principles JW's omit to follow
by JH injesus said these words:.
"if you desire to be perfect," replied jesus, "go and sell all that you have, and give to the poor, and you shall have wealth in heaven; and come, follow me.".
i never heard elders ask jw's to reach out into their abundance and help poor jw's....have you?.
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How ethical is it to sow DOUBT in the minds of sincere Jehovah's Witnesses?
by nicolaou inwe know that we can't always take the direct approach and we know that even a short, reasonable discussion is often out of the question with jw's we may love dearly so we often try to place a little doubt in their minds.
we want them to start questioning cherished beliefs.. is this fair of us?
are we placing our our own agendas ahead of their needs?
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erandir
a mere man who wipes his behind every morning just like you!
How do you know they wipe? Maybe they don't...that's why they are so uptight. Anal retentive, maybe.
Anyway, on topic...it is at least as ethical as what the JW's do to people who are happy in their own religions. Factor in the dangerous parts of this cult, and yes...it is more ethical to sow those doubts than it is to keep silent.
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What to do if your children are being bullied
by Paralipomenon ingird them in god's armor, surely it will help!~.
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erandir
Sit them down to learn how to deal with it...share a TV episode of "Bibleman" with them.
I saw an old episode of MadTV the other day. They were doing a skit called "Bible Dude" which is a spoof of "Bibleman" from one of those Christian TV networks. I went through the satellite guide for that show and found it on TBN and set it to record.
Wow...if they had commercials on TBN, they would probably run the above pj ad during the break. It fits right in.
It's a show from about 5 years ago for kids that features a super hero (Batman style) that has light saber battles with demons (who look like the old Batman Joker character) and teaches the kids how to deal with things like bullying by turning the other cheek (a$$ cheek, maybe).
I just have to say that any "persecution" that fundimental Christians get...well, it's their own fault for being so weird. This goes for JW's, too.
Makes me glad that the GB doesn't make a TV show, though.
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I finally took my stand.
by Orgull ini just missed two meetings for the first time in five years.. this past week i went "on vacation", housesitting for relatives nearby.
i told my bookstudy overseer i'd be "away", even though i was only a twenty minute drive from the kingdom hall.
i spent the entire week away from my insane family, away from the meetings and away from my "brothers and sisters".. it felt great.. coming home felt... not so great.. but the first brick in my fade has been laid.
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erandir
"Even the longest journey begins with a single step."
Wasn't it CT Russell who said that? (gag)"A journey of a thousand miles begins with a single step" - was said by Confucius.
Ah...so one of the earliest examples of typical WT plagiarism.
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I finally took my stand.
by Orgull ini just missed two meetings for the first time in five years.. this past week i went "on vacation", housesitting for relatives nearby.
i told my bookstudy overseer i'd be "away", even though i was only a twenty minute drive from the kingdom hall.
i spent the entire week away from my insane family, away from the meetings and away from my "brothers and sisters".. it felt great.. coming home felt... not so great.. but the first brick in my fade has been laid.
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erandir
Woohoo, Orgull!
Oh, and remember this powerful little word:
NO
Use it whenever the brothers try to volunteer you for anything. And don't elaborate on the excuses. They don't need to know your business. Just say "No, I can't right now." If they persist, say "I'm busy" or "It's personal."
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"Crystal Blue Persuasion" -- Is it really about the "Truth" Book?
by B_Deserter ini haven't been able to find a definite source online.
all my life i was taught that this song was about the blue "truth" book that was being used to bring people into the witnesses in the late 60's/early 70's.
now that i don't blindly accept whatever i've been told, i'm having my doubts.
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erandir
Ok...let's weigh the evidence:
First, from an above embedded page...some hearsay:
A couple years ago Tommy James website had a question and answer section moderated by his Manager. One of the questions was regarding where he got the idea for his song Crystal Blue Persuasion and whether he got the idea from reading a blue book. His manager explained (I read it myself on his official website) that in the late sixties Tommy became a Born-Again Christian and that he did a lot of Bible reading. He was inspired by his reading of the book of Ezekiel where it speaks of the Blue Shekinah Light which represented the presence of the Almighty God and the Books of Isaiah and Revelation where it speaks of a bright future of a brotherhood of mankind living in peace and harmony. This is where he got his idea from. Not from a book, not from a church. This is the fact. The SongFact.
Second, from an overly adamant know-it-all book study overseer who is full of himself. He insisted and kept telling people over and over...even at our book study while conducting it and also out in field service, that it was a FACT that James wrote the song based on the blue-covered "Truth" book.
Ok...evidence is in...let's do the analysis.
I'm gonna have to go with the book study overseer. His repetition for emphasis really proves the point. The more it is said, the more it must be true, right? Also, as one of Jehovah's Witnesses, he must know what he's talking about because he came into the "truth" from that book...and it did have the blue cover. And it was persuasive. So persuasive that he has said on repeated occasions: "I'm gonna give this truth business all I've got because if it isn't the truth, then what else is there? Where else will I go?" He became a witness because it was his last resort? He settled for this? Wow...now that's the kind of elder we want shepherding the flock. And remember the b.s. (that doesn't stand for bible study, kids) from the Reasoning book, if you want to know the "truth" about all-things-witness, you should go right to the source and ask a witness...don't trust worldly or apostate sources that don't know firsthand.
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Dilemma - What can I offer my wife if she leaves the witnesses?
by truthseeker inthis week, my wife called me an "opposing husband" - because i stopped believing that jehovah chose the watchtower society as his sole channel on earth.. .
my wife knows about the society, it's flip-flop on doctrines, child sex abuse scandals, including the un, but none of that matters.. .
she doesn't read the litertaure, not even the bible.. .
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erandir
I just didn't know ENOUGH 'worldy' people - now I can see there are many, many amazing people out here that I do want to spend my time with developing their friendships.
Right on!
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Stay Alive to '75 - MP3 Talk
by AlphaOmega ini have been e-mailed another watchtower talk .
it is the famous "stay alive 'to 75" talk by charles sunutko given in 1967.. it is entitled "serving with everlasting life in view" (final spring 1967 sheboygan, wisconsin).
it has left witnesses that i played it to silent.
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erandir
I'll pray for your hard drive
LOL
Thanks. Who are you praying to, btw?
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Stay Alive to '75 - MP3 Talk
by AlphaOmega ini have been e-mailed another watchtower talk .
it is the famous "stay alive 'to 75" talk by charles sunutko given in 1967.. it is entitled "serving with everlasting life in view" (final spring 1967 sheboygan, wisconsin).
it has left witnesses that i played it to silent.
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erandir
Wow...what a gem! Thanks for the sources. I'm storing stuff like this on my second hard drive (not on the boot drive where it could be wiped due to windows crashing) for future reference.
It's kind of a test, too. If God smites my second hard drive, I'll know it was wrong to have it.
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Would You Like To Know What Goes On At Elder's Meetings?
by minimus inhave you ever wondered what goes on at an elder's meeting?
after a prayer, the presiding overseer will state what the purpose of the meeting is.
if it's a quarterly meeting, the elders will discuss the spirituality of the congregation, its spirit and any dangerous trends that may be observed.
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erandir
What about the 10-hour monthly service requirement? Is that made up, non-biblical rule ever discussed?