Posts by emyrose

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Have I changed?

by mommy in

jw
friends

as most of you know i am new to the world of the internet.

therefore i am new to the discussion board forum.

when i first entered simon's place, i did not fear to speak my mind.

Hi Mommy,
I think you are a nice person and have enjoyed
reading your thoughts. Perhaps some of those
who have been rude and nasty to others are just
going thru post-cult trauma. Or they just had a
bad day or week, etc. Or they are just mean by nature.
Whatever the case I think its great you brought it up.
Now people will think twice before being rude. As for
your change in character on the net, I think its not a
change but just simply that dif. circumtances produce
dif. reactions. Don't you say things on the phone that
you might not say in person or vise versa? Don't feel
bad about behaving a bit dif., I'm sure you have good
intentions even when venting some anger.
Your friend, Emyrose

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Facing JW-philosophy demons

by emyrose in

although i left jw's 7yrs ago.

i am now really starting to suffer emotionally and i .

think psychologically too.

emyrose

Hi everyone,
Thankyou for your advice and kindness. I really
appreciate your much needed help. May God bless you for it.
I would like to know if anyone ever had the problem of being
instinctually too judgemental. If so, did you just focus on the positives of a person or situation, or did you say specific things
to yourself? Did anyone also ruin relationships,and if you did how did you tackle it. I find it very hard to control my reactions to
people. I keep thinking that they should be more unselfish, but the
funny thing is most people think I'm too opinionated on the subject.
Thanks, Emyrose

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hi am new

by tiffani in

hi my name is tanya and hi just found out about this forum.

i think it's great to have a site where witnesses could meet new brothers and new sisters all over the world.

well as for me i believe that jehovah god should be the first priority in once life.

emyrose

Hi Tiffani,
I'm no longer a JW because I left.
I wish you a lot of love and hope God
protects you. To put Jehovah first you must
love your fellowman as you would love yourself.
Please think about this deeply. Pray to Jehovah
for help in understanding his commandment. Please
don't ever let elders or anyone tell you what God
means by this. Just let God have the last say.
Never stop asking him for help.
Best Wishes, Emyrose

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SMILE

by Gopher in

i found this old favorite song of mine.

take it for what it's worth.

a day-brightener, yes, a cure-all, no.. this beautiful song was used as background music in one of charlie chaplin's silent pictures over 70 years ago, which i believe was called "modern times".

emyrose

Hi everyone,
Thankyou for all your uplifting words.
Crossroads, let me clarify what I mean by
never getting over the pain. No matter what
we do that part of our lives will always exist.
Maybe in time the pain will lessen but not cease
to be. I think that our lost years are not something
to take lightly. We need to realize what was done to us.
We have every right to be angry and must work to prevent
others from losing their lives to JW's. I don't think we
have the right to impose anything on anyone but if we know
they are in danger we have the responsibility to warn them.
Although I don't know exactly what would be the appropriate
way to warn them, I feel at least we need to speak out clearly
about evil that's being committed. Love demands that we warn
as many as possible. Never forget how much pain the ORG. perpetrates.
Worried and concerned, Emyrose

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Facing JW-philosophy demons

by emyrose in

although i left jw's 7yrs ago.

i am now really starting to suffer emotionally and i .

think psychologically too.

emyrose

Hi everyone,
oops! I've been reading more posts and didn't
realize its customery to do an intro. Here's
my story. I grew up in West Harlem. My family
moved there when I was four. One day a very sweet
eldery man came to our door and my parent's accepted
a bible study for my older sister, my older brother and
myself because they thought it would help us learn English.
I was five and never really wanted to study but was pushed
by my older siblings and when I was 10 I stopped (but my sister
didn't and was in JW's until five years ago. She left at 29.)
But I started studyng again at 16 since my family is very disfunctional, both my parents come from abusive families. My dad never kept in touch with family and neither did my mom. SHe was an orphan and any family she had didn't want her or helped her much. (My dad has physically and emotionally abused my mom all thru out their marriage) I only know my immediate family and have never met cousins or grandparents, etc. My older brother is seriously mentally ill and has never held a job and still lives w/ my parents at 36. He's never seen a psy. doc. due to family denial. I think he may be schizophrenic. I found support and friendship in the cong. but when I began to ask ?'s it got ulgy. I guess it was too much for them to deal with. I studied every detail and researched extensively, which might have scared them to death. I got ice-cold treatment for months and then some sisters began to be nasty and rude to me. I complained and got no help. I never trusted most of the elders (some never spoke to anyone but other elders) so I went to sisters for help. I just got to hear gossip about HER/HIM and it was tit for tat all over the place. I got frustrated and left. But perhaps what bothered me more is the lack of logic that many subscribe to when
analyzing scripture. I would think to myself "How dumb can they be or is it that I'm just a genius and can see easily what they can't." The more research I did (and believe me I was praying and hoping that I would see logic in some WT teachings)the more I saw flawed reasoning.
I been out for almost 7yrs now and have recently noticed JW-philosopy has damaged the way I relate to others. But the main teachings they imprint on minds is not so easliy seen. The notion of being absolutely and concretely morally superior than others makes us moral Nazis. I can't seem to see good in many people. I've managed to alienated my boyfriend of four yrs. At one point he was so in love with me but because I can't seem to be non-judgemental towards him and his life we have beening fighting a whole lot. I've lost friends because they were not moral enough or nice enough to me. I expect people to be perfect, including myself. This superior-complex makes us constantly measure other mercilessly by simplistic and inaccurate rules. We learn to be piously incompassionate.
But Jehovah or WHatever you may call HIM/HER is love and will help us.
Thanks, Emyrose

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Why Excercise?

by Prisca in

a few funnies..... .

** it is well documented that for every mile that you jog, you add one minute to your life.

this enables you, at age 85, to spend an additional 5 months in a nursing home at 400. haven't lost a pound.

emyrose

hi Prisca,
I enjoyed the humor. I think Larc doesn't realize
what jogging involves. It means more than just
moving limbs. It makes you look at the world out there
from a interesting perspective, a struggling one.
Motivation comes to you, both emotional and intellectual.
And of course an added plus is improved looks.
I haven't jogged for a long time, but today I'm going
for it.
Thanks Prisca, for the motivation,
Emyrose

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SMILE

by Gopher in

i found this old favorite song of mine.

take it for what it's worth.

a day-brightener, yes, a cure-all, no.. this beautiful song was used as background music in one of charlie chaplin's silent pictures over 70 years ago, which i believe was called "modern times".

emyrose

Hi Gopher,
I'm new and have been going thru deep anger
and depression bouts. Smiling is great but not
at all times. I think what we suffer by leaving
JW's is a real form of death. We will never
get over it and this is imp. to accept. It is a scar
we will always bear. What such a cult can do to your
mind and entire life is disgusting and alarming.
They distort your perception of reality and getting
it back is a great challenge. I still have faith in God
however, and think he will get me thru this tradegy.
Instead of a forced smile its sometimes better to cry
and ask God to dry your tears. Then a real smile will follow.
May God Bless you all, Emyrose

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Allow me to introduce myself...

by MuzicmanCa in

i am a new face to this website, although i have poked around in it for some time.

i was born and raised as a witness starting in brooklyn, new york in 1973. i was disfellowshipped on my 26th birthday, november 20th, 1999. i am not one of those that feels bitter about it.

i know full well that the jw's have a code of morals and behavior that quite honestsly, i did not live up to.

emyrose

Hey, MuzicmanCa
Think about your disfellowshipment more seriously
and deeply. It might haunt you in the future.
I agree that many JW's are nice people but realize
that they are willing to obey evil orders such as
shunning people who disagree about certain points in belief.
People aren't just shunned for "immoral" behavior.
I exp. isolation for just questioning some points so much that ended up leaving and never went back. No one invited me to anything or spoke to me much at meetings. People I thought really cared about abandoned me. Most didn't even call me to learn why I stop attending meetings.
I was so shocked I never really dealt w/ this pain unitl recently.
May God Bless you, emyrose
P.S.
I'm from NYC too. I was in the Riverside Congregation in Manhattan.

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Need A Laugh? 5/15/01 WT

by myMichelle in

i resisted posting this on the "main" page, trying to comply with the division of posts that simon is encouraging.

(no thanks necessary, simon, just following the rules.).

well, i finished my dinner a little while ago and whilst i was tidying up the kitchen, i noticed that i had received my 5/15/01 issue of the wt.

emyrose

Hi Michelle
Thanks! I needed that laugh. Do you know more JW humor?
I will look out for more if you do.
Maybe another irony is the "paradise" atmosphere they lure you in with and the hell they impose once your in. Another, why elders seem
to be the most juvenile and in need of counseling for mental problems
and odd behavior. Why do elders look like math teachers stuck in the 70's?

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Facing JW-philosophy demons

by emyrose in

although i left jw's 7yrs ago.

i am now really starting to suffer emotionally and i .

think psychologically too.

emyrose

Hello everyone!
I'm new to JW-boards. Although I left JW's 7yrs ago
I am now really starting to suffer emotionally and I
think psychologically too. I've messed up my last year in
college and can't seem to write papers or learn anymore.
I was doing great and even received an award for excellence in
constitutional law. Now I can't even relate to friends or family.
My boyfriend has urged me to get prof. help for the past year but
I thought I could handle it myself. Ha! Not a chance. Last week I
suffered acute anxiety attacks that had me planning a trip to the
drug store for sleeping pills. I've never prayed as much as I did
last week. So I now turn to you guys out there. (My current friends don't understand since none are ex-JW's) I need advice from
people that can understand what it means to leave JW's. Just reading
about ex-JW's has already helped me a lot. Thanks! to all who write.
May God bless you all, Emyrose