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Is 2034 the ultimate Watchtower date?

by cultswatter in

a recent wacktower had hinted that the year 2034 would be the final date for armaggedon.

if armageddon has not arrived by 2035 then will the wts close shop for good or will they simply accuse the past presidents of apostacy and regroup to form another daughter of the tower offshoot baseless religion?.

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PhilsWager2

I remember around the turn of the Century and right before the "Twisted Overlapping Generation" teaching was introduced they were doing some kind of partial book-review on Sir Isaac Newton's prophecy using Daniel's book. Is the date your using from Isaac Newton's book? There was a group of weirdos around here that are gluttons for punishment, they said "The anointed brothers we know said the End won't come until 2024, this was back around 1997-1999 time frame. Who are all these people pulling dates out of their behinds because even Jesus Christ said "Not even the Son knows that day or hour!". This implies he did not even know the Year, he left that up for the people who pushed him out of Heaven and took his spot as "The Name above all other names that you must bow to "The Governing Body"(Philippians 2)>

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Does it take Bible Study and Researching Watchtower Materials to become a Expert in JW Religion? Here's why I say No!

by PhilsWager2 in

i was sent a link by someone wanting me to review a elder's wife's posts where she has all kinds of likes on topics shes never shown any interest throughout life.

she was one of the stupidest jws when it came to all the subjects most of you have a very good feel for.

when i would ask deeper questions, in her nasty voice "boring, that's boring" speaking about the tetragrammaton, trinity, cross-stake debate, born-again and every topic that was beyond watching a caleb and sophie video.. what's creepy about this person is they don't have any jehovah witness friends to speak of, i talked with a few attending her hall and they think she's cracked.

PhilsWager2

I was sent a link by someone wanting me to review a elder's wife's posts where she has all kinds of likes on topics shes never shown any interest throughout life. She was one of the stupidest JWs when it came to all the subjects most of you have a very good feel for. When I would ask deeper questions, in her nasty voice "Boring, that's boring" speaking about the Tetragrammaton, Trinity, Cross-Stake debate, Born-Again and every topic that was beyond watching a Caleb and Sophie Video.

What's creepy about this person is they don't have any Jehovah Witness friends to speak of, I talked with a few attending her Hall and they think she's cracked. The only friends she's got are two people most JWs are afraid of because he has a "Cho-Mo Letter" following him around. Why do people pretend on Facebook and other online sites to care to post their scholarly JWs when they don't know what's written. Applied Christianity does not exists, in many JW Kingdom Halls you never hear the word Christian, seldom does Jesus Christ's name get spoken of. Why is it the word "Organization" not found in the Bible get's 10x to 30x mentioned per 1x of Jesus Christ's name?

Are Jehovah's Witnesses are explained by the Watchtower Society Christian or they some other religion? Seeing this woman's "likes" and "dislikes" on topics mentioning Jehovah made me sick because their qualities are those of the anti-Christ, not Jesus Christ! People like this fullfill the skeptics who preach "Don't tell me your a Christian, let me guess it!" or "I like Jesus, I do not like Christians!" ect... Their condemned by their actions, what type of reward is in store for those who enjoy stumbling out of the Kingdom Hall all the "little ones"?

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Armageddon in 1975 'probability' or 'possibility'? Irrefutable Proof the Watchtower Said 1975 Was "Game Over!"

by PhilsWager2 in

it's hard to know where to put this link to a polish book some of you older members probably read, while our newer members are seeking answers to questions the watchtower vehemently deny's!

do i put this under "jw scandals" or "jw beliefs"?

for decades without the internet many of us did not have access to all the publications written by early watchtower writers because access was hard, only men like raymond franz jr(god rest his brave soul) had the golden key for entering the library of all publications jws made.. can some of the older members remember people who sold their homes and others who bought things in the summer or fall of 1974 knowing they won't be paying for their purchases because jehovah will destroy all the creditors records when he kills them!

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JW Facts might have a bunch of this PDF, check them out and see if you think there is something wrong with it. I did not download any of it, all I did was click on the pages I wanted to read and saw how the Watchtower Leaders did say that 1975 was going to be the End and the 20th Century would not end without seeing the Return of Christ. The Watchtower changed wording in their books, deleted parts of their CDs to remove parts that say "The Preaching Work will end before the 20th Century ends!"

Now they lie and say they never said anything, it was their Rank-and-File, not them, they had nothing to do with the rank-and-files insanity!

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Armageddon in 1975 'probability' or 'possibility'? Irrefutable Proof the Watchtower Said 1975 Was "Game Over!"

by PhilsWager2 in

it's hard to know where to put this link to a polish book some of you older members probably read, while our newer members are seeking answers to questions the watchtower vehemently deny's!

do i put this under "jw scandals" or "jw beliefs"?

for decades without the internet many of us did not have access to all the publications written by early watchtower writers because access was hard, only men like raymond franz jr(god rest his brave soul) had the golden key for entering the library of all publications jws made.. can some of the older members remember people who sold their homes and others who bought things in the summer or fall of 1974 knowing they won't be paying for their purchases because jehovah will destroy all the creditors records when he kills them!

PhilsWager2

jhine, why do you think we lost a large amount of witnesses after 1975, they either had to file bankruptcy and continue to follow the Cult or get a job and pay off all those nasty loans. I know people who sold their property and sent the money to the Watchtower, later it was learned they were putting money in to Government Bonds and Stocks too, how ironic?

How come the Watchtower was not spending every single penny in 1972-1974 trying to warn people? They had enough cash for all the Pioneers to stop working and help Aux Pioneers by covering their expenses. They could have paid for all the Elders in each Kingdom Hall to Pioneer but their lack of faith in Jehovah bringing about the End is shown by their investments in Stocks and Bonds, not investing in every capable Jehovah Witness to Pioneer, they were so greedy and still people are stupid to follow them straight to Hell!

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Armageddon in 1975 'probability' or 'possibility'? Irrefutable Proof the Watchtower Said 1975 Was "Game Over!"

by PhilsWager2 in

it's hard to know where to put this link to a polish book some of you older members probably read, while our newer members are seeking answers to questions the watchtower vehemently deny's!

do i put this under "jw scandals" or "jw beliefs"?

for decades without the internet many of us did not have access to all the publications written by early watchtower writers because access was hard, only men like raymond franz jr(god rest his brave soul) had the golden key for entering the library of all publications jws made.. can some of the older members remember people who sold their homes and others who bought things in the summer or fall of 1974 knowing they won't be paying for their purchases because jehovah will destroy all the creditors records when he kills them!

PhilsWager2

It's hard to know where to put this link to a Polish book some of you older members probably read, while our newer members are seeking answers to questions the Watchtower vehemently deny's! Do I put this under "JW Scandals" or "JW Beliefs"? For decades without the Internet many of us did not have access to all the publications written by early Watchtower writers because access was hard, only men like Raymond Franz Jr(God rest his brave soul) had the golden key for entering the library of all publications JWs made.

Can some of the older members remember people who sold their homes and others who bought things in the Summer or Fall of 1974 knowing they won't be paying for their purchases because Jehovah will destroy all the Creditors records when he kills them! How many people do you remember left the Organization and were with just right, mad as hell? I remember a few, one bought a new house up in the HIlls (expensive house near Malibu Beach on credit), another bought the most expensive motor-home and vacation trailers, others more cars, motor-bikes things they could not afford as eventually many went financially bankrupt. This proud habit of living in the fringes of your income by making the minimum payment happened again in the 1984-1989 as people thought 1986-1994 was the assured date of the Second Coming. Where is this promised presence the Watchtower claims "Who us, we never said it, zealous foolish Witnesses did! We just said "look out for strange events" as they poured gas on any event they could induce their trademarked "Watchtower Instant Fear" tonic.

For you younger ones, here's a link to the Polish authors book where he proves the leaders of the Watchtower promoted the 1975 agenda. What experiences did you have growing up as we grew near to 1975, all I could think about was my friends in 3rd grade were going to die with all my sisters friends too.

Author: Wlodzimierz Bednarski

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19 and Counting Pedophile Church Coverup, their just like the Watchtower! "Real Time" Pedophile Scandal!"

by PhilsWager2 in

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/21/people-duggar-family-speaks-after-josh-duggar-accused-molestation.

have you read about this freak who molested his family, the parents, church and a police officer covered up this scandal because of all the money!.

"posted may 21 2015 6:51 pm edt.

PhilsWager2

rip van winkle13 hours ago
Thanks for posting this, Phil."

That's why I am here, to try to help and seek answers in our struggle to understand why we allowed them control over our bodies, brains and hearts, they certainly never earned our respect looking back how they treated us. My sister was molested by a pedophile and the elders told her "You must wait upon Jehovah" a gazillion times, even as time has moved by decades the pedophile stole something from her too. The Congregation turned against her because she wanted justice, it took ten years to get him removed as COBE of their Kingdom Hall because the Watchtower liked all his construction skills, gifts of money and time. They knew he was a sexual predator and allowed him to remain in his position because was useful and she was considered "fringe", "weak", "not a Pioneer", it's all about what you do and not how much you loved God

The pain and suffering inflicted by the Perp is one thing, yet that's seem's like it's not enough for Satan and his evil beings. They want the church and it's ministers to shred any dignity and silence the cries of all victims of sexual abuse happening in Jehovah's Holy Organization. It took twenty years before I learned about her abuse, she buried this away because the "Organization of Jehovah needs a clean name", "My church right or wrong" attitude. Pain from being a victim plus the Organization that's suppose to comfort you and throws you under a bus and followed by a steam-roller, that's how Jehovah's Witnesses operated in the few cases I saw. They were so stressed this information would hit the public, they begged the victims to allow them to handle and perform justice, it never happened!

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Fresno man facing murder charge after shooting a Jehovah’s Witness who refused blood transfusion

by Tenacious in

a fresno man is facing murder charges in court this week for the shooting death of a jehovahs witness who later died after refusing a blood transfusion.. according to police, quevedo and silva argued over over gang membership with quevedo returning later in the evening to shoot silva through the security door at his home.. silva reportedly told a fresno police officer jehovah, jehovah, im dying, im dying, as he was taken to a hospital where he died during surgery after refusing a blood transfusion because he was a jehovahs witness.. it is the belief of many jehovahs witnesses that it is against gods will to have a blood transfusion.. according to defense attorney antonio alvarez, quevedo should not have been charged with murder because silva refused a transfusion that could have saved his life.. prosecutor gabriel brickey disagrees and will call fresno county pathologist michael chambliss to testify that, even if silva had received the transfusion, he would have died because one bullet hit a a major vein.. quevedo has already served time in prison for felony battery and theft and was on supervised release when he was arrested for shooting silva.. if convicted of murder he would face life in prison.. original story with suspect picture can be found here: fresno shooting.

PhilsWager2

There was a JW Pioneer former gang banger, he left the gang and found the truth until the elders stumbled him back to gang-land. This brother really tried his best to leave the past behind but all the elders would screw with him once he got baptized. They harrassed him over his dress, his working with single sisters(a no! no!) and married ones too, finally he succumbed to Satan as the elders spread and is back in jail until 2024. Did I mention he was a decent man and tried to change his past?

Why look for "fringe people" if all your going to do is stumble them out the door because they won't kiss your ring or robe? That's why the Elders really hated him, he refused to kiss their ass, fingers and robes so they assaulted him verbally until he threatened to kick their ass. All this is from a reliable person and I asked this gang-banger if all was true, reluctantly putting his head down during the pre-trial he said "I had a very good thing, wish it was possible to ignore all Satan's assaults from me but someone had to stand up to those evil bastards(Elder Body).

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17 year old son is blaming me for ruining his life from the Cult. He's complaining "I could have been a high school sports star!"

by PhilsWager2 in

you know about my not-so-ugly divorce and how me and my wife found out the religion is false.

she still attends while my 17 year old has been raging on me about all the wasted time he suffered from by being in this religion.

he think's his life is ruined, very angry we did not learn this was a cult earlier(he was 14 when he stopped attending after reading the revelation book, he said "in all time and history, how could a trumpet blown in revelation have anything to do with a jw bible student convention statement"?.

PhilsWager2

3rd Gen I totally agree with you, I did apologize but how could we have known if all us were under the spell of the Watchtower?

Data-dog, when I was 17 I headed over to the Navy recruiting center, one guy in a small office asking if I could join because I wanted to be a Seal. I got declined because my eyes had problems, this officer was all fired up when I said "I wanna kill them Commie bastards!", he almost had a orgasm. My friend left the Watchtower, joined the Navy and ended up for eight months at the South Pole after sitting in South Korea and Japan for eight years. He touched the pole, said it was boring as hell there!

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19 and Counting Pedophile Church Coverup, their just like the Watchtower! "Real Time" Pedophile Scandal!"

by PhilsWager2 in

http://www.ew.com/article/2015/05/21/people-duggar-family-speaks-after-josh-duggar-accused-molestation.

have you read about this freak who molested his family, the parents, church and a police officer covered up this scandal because of all the money!.

"posted may 21 2015 6:51 pm edt.

PhilsWager2

JWdaughter, excellent post! JWs take a aggressive stance against anyone bringing charges forward as we have seen, their evil and retaliate against the victims, not the perps! There is a elder with a daughter who owns a day care center, he's very sympathetic to the local pedophiles. I wonder at times if he's a freak too, he has had accusations made against him in the past and now is it possible the BOE covered up his sins too?

Did you read about what happened to the State Trooper officer the kid's father had him talk to, it's a strange story, heard he got arrested for charges of a similar sort, all the news is slowly filtering through as this family and it's church comes to grips with keeping their name clean for the camera and all the money their show made.

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Fresno man facing murder charge after shooting a Jehovah’s Witness who refused blood transfusion

by Tenacious in

a fresno man is facing murder charges in court this week for the shooting death of a jehovahs witness who later died after refusing a blood transfusion.. according to police, quevedo and silva argued over over gang membership with quevedo returning later in the evening to shoot silva through the security door at his home.. silva reportedly told a fresno police officer jehovah, jehovah, im dying, im dying, as he was taken to a hospital where he died during surgery after refusing a blood transfusion because he was a jehovahs witness.. it is the belief of many jehovahs witnesses that it is against gods will to have a blood transfusion.. according to defense attorney antonio alvarez, quevedo should not have been charged with murder because silva refused a transfusion that could have saved his life.. prosecutor gabriel brickey disagrees and will call fresno county pathologist michael chambliss to testify that, even if silva had received the transfusion, he would have died because one bullet hit a a major vein.. quevedo has already served time in prison for felony battery and theft and was on supervised release when he was arrested for shooting silva.. if convicted of murder he would face life in prison.. original story with suspect picture can be found here: fresno shooting.

PhilsWager2

Ok, so he was a Jehovah's Witness because he refused a blood transfusion yet lived a life that's against all the commandments, how does that work? "Fringe Witnesses", have not heard that term in a while, the witnesses who bugged people to attend the Memorial would gossip bad things about them, so why bother asking them to join them during the "Lord's Evening Meal" if you've got nothing good to say?

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rip van winkle13 hours ago