clash:
The main problem is that most people (sorry, reputable scientists too!) confound "auto-adaptation" and "self-optimization" behavior in biologic structures with a "type of process/concept which lead to evolution". In truth, mechanisms for
A) Self-adaptation / Self-optimization and
B) "evolution through natural selection"
are two completely different pair of shoes.
A) is
observable, provable and (even) retracable and reconstractable in empirical tests (see new results in informatics and robotics!)
Therefore, it matches with the presupposements you had pointed out in your first posting, namely (Guided by natural law, Explanatory by reference to natural law, Testable against the empirical world, Tentative in its conclusions, Falsifiable etc. etc.)
B) is neither observable (alleged, but not true), provable and retracable and reconstractable in empiric tests...
So, it indeed doesn't match to those presupposements. Easy to understand.
But note, sorry: THE SAME PRESUPPOSEMENTS ARE MISSING FOR CREATIONISM TOO !
Ergo: Neither evolution theory nor creativism are "theories". They are religion, not more and not less.
On the other side, there is a MOST deeper problem.
Scientists today know definetively HOW auto-adaptation processes and self-optimism behavior operates in biologic structures, BUT they have to deny to know it !! That's much more dirty than all dirty restrictions Johnson describes in his books! Because they are observable, provable and empiric-testable scientific facts! THEY NOT ALLOWED TO BE PUBLISHED! If any scientist (reputable or not) would go to try to publish his wisdom in any scientific gazette, he would have no chance !!
Do you guess why ????
BECAUSE THE WISDOM HOW THESE PRINCIPLES OPERATE COULD BRING THE WHOLE EVOLUTION-THEORY-BUILDINGS IN GREATEST DANGER !!!
Yes, its incredible for most of all who will read these lines. But nevertheless, it's true!
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75Marry Christmas Jan-evolution goes down in flames
by clash_city_rockers indarwin on trial is the title of a book on evolution that has ruffled the feathers of the secular scientific community.
though a christian, author philip johnson critiques evolutionary theory from a secular standpoint as he examines the philosophical games many scientists play to protect their evolutionary ideology.
johnson, a law professor at the university of california at berkeley, attacks head-on the often-heard statement that evolution is both a fact and a theory, an evolutionary dogma that has been a major source of confusion for a long time.
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Marry Christmas Jan-evolution goes down in flames
by clash_city_rockers indarwin on trial is the title of a book on evolution that has ruffled the feathers of the secular scientific community.
though a christian, author philip johnson critiques evolutionary theory from a secular standpoint as he examines the philosophical games many scientists play to protect their evolutionary ideology.
johnson, a law professor at the university of california at berkeley, attacks head-on the often-heard statement that evolution is both a fact and a theory, an evolutionary dogma that has been a major source of confusion for a long time.
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clash:
My apologies to Abaddon, I am sorry for mistaking you for a girl..
You haven't been the first one...
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What will happen to the children?
by YoYoMama incheck out this news story: http://web.star-telegram.com/content/fortworth/2001/12/21/foreign/fw030707-1221-xa036-terror.htm.
many question jehovah on what will happen with the children during armageddon.
i don't know that answer entirely so i'll wait and see what happens.
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seven006:
To view it as an absolute fact is in my opinion and in your words "an intellectual mistake" and a perfect example of "shortsightedness."
No, that description is part of a unified scientific theory, and is absolutely consistent and provable.
If you do not believe me please go to your university and show it to a mathematics-, logics- epistemology- or physics expert. He will soon prove that all content of my work is provable and status of the newest results of international science. Besides, read the book "Goedel, Escher, Bach" written by D. Hofstadter. This could be of help for better understanding.
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What will happen to the children?
by YoYoMama incheck out this news story: http://web.star-telegram.com/content/fortworth/2001/12/21/foreign/fw030707-1221-xa036-terror.htm.
many question jehovah on what will happen with the children during armageddon.
i don't know that answer entirely so i'll wait and see what happens.
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seven006:
quote] Your acceptance of a man made concept of an ancient god Your acceptance of a man made concept of an ancient god ![/quote]
quote] What ever name you want to give him is irrelevant...[/quote]
This is an error.YHVH/JHWH is more than a "personified God".
His name "I shall be prove" is much more than "giving an ancient god any name". Oh, what an intellectual mistake! What a short-sightedness!
His name is a kind of universal formula. It implies a type of "algorithm", a teleologic universal order, whom underlies all kinds of biologic, molecular, atomar and sub-atomar structures in the universe.
I do not defense the WTS , BUT I DO DEFENSE THE NAME OF THE ALMIGHTY GOD, AND I WILL DO THAT UNTIL THE END OF MY LIFE, IF NECESSARY !! If they Df'd me or not, is not of fundamental interest for me. I will be surviving it!
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What will happen to the children?
by YoYoMama incheck out this news story: http://web.star-telegram.com/content/fortworth/2001/12/21/foreign/fw030707-1221-xa036-terror.htm.
many question jehovah on what will happen with the children during armageddon.
i don't know that answer entirely so i'll wait and see what happens.
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avengers wrote:
Doesn't the WT say you should not use the internet to go to these sites to preach. Aren't you all in contempt?
Just like your GOD!
Please do not put the WTS and the Almighty God YHVH/JHWH into the same pot.
Jehovah did exist billions of years before WTS; and he will exist billions of years after WTS. Notice that!
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What will happen to the children?
by YoYoMama incheck out this news story: http://web.star-telegram.com/content/fortworth/2001/12/21/foreign/fw030707-1221-xa036-terror.htm.
many question jehovah on what will happen with the children during armageddon.
i don't know that answer entirely so i'll wait and see what happens.
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YoYoMama:
Jehovah will not "intervene".
The term "intervene" is vocabulary nowhere been found in the bible.
YHVH/JHWH will let the worlds matters happen in an manner, so that HIS intention to establish a new and righteous order (in the spiritual world as well as in the material world) will become reality.
We do not know the way HOW process will take place, we do not know WHEN and we do not know the DURATION, which the process needs until its end. But you can be sure that people who believe in YHVH/JHWH will survive; their relations, charges and kids too. -
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Will this hurt?
by PollyAnnaBanana injust wanted to see if this works!
gotta hide out -- right now the judicial committee is after me!
and everybody i know and love is a witness.
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PollyAnnaBanana:
>judicial committee<
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14 Minutes and you are not a Servant of Jehovah
by JT inlast night we were discussing the "new light" that was revealed to the gb recently from jehovah.
many of us recall all the co talks and elder parts based on the bible text of how a true servant of jah would not be "inactive or irregular" for years one was required to have at least one hour to be considered a servant of jah.. as the sec in my hall i recall so many times calling up friends to get thier time and hearing them break crying cause they didn't have 60min only about 45min- and they knew that it meant they were not servants of jah.
now with the new light from jw a person with only 14 minutes of time will now be disqualified as being a servant of jah.. it is amazing how many jw will view this arrangement as a "loving provision from jah" instead of realizing that thier service to thier god has been reduced to whether they get 15min or 14 min.
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JT wrote:
..As the Sec in my hall I recall so many times calling up friends to get thier time and hearing them break crying cause they didn't have 60min only about 45min- and they knew that it meant they were not servants of Jah...
Oh man!Why didn't you stop being Sec from the first minute, when you saw your brother or sister crying because of non-biblic-instructions ?
I am JW since 16 years.I didn't ever got "privileges". But I can tell you: I would have leaving all "service- privileges" at the first moment, where I got aware of the fact that the "loving provisions" HURT my brothers !!!
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Dub Groupies
by OUTLAW ini don`t know if many of you have noticed but many of the pro dub posters are not dubs.they pretend to be dubs and have been able to some what talk like dubs.they are not dubs,they are not ex dubs,they are dub groupies.they may have been associated with dubs at some time and even still hang out with dubs.but they haven`t done any real dub time,they haven`t lived the life.thats why when you explain something to them they don`t get it,they can`t.if they had one or two decades of real dub time under their belts they might be able to pull it off.just hanging out with dubs won`t do it.so to all the old ex dub war horses i tell you to just keep your eyes open and you will spot the dub groupies.
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yadirf:
Are YOU no longer a proponent of the WTS, Erich?
One should change the sentence:Does the WTS think I'd be a proponent of them ?
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Dub Groupies
by OUTLAW ini don`t know if many of you have noticed but many of the pro dub posters are not dubs.they pretend to be dubs and have been able to some what talk like dubs.they are not dubs,they are not ex dubs,they are dub groupies.they may have been associated with dubs at some time and even still hang out with dubs.but they haven`t done any real dub time,they haven`t lived the life.thats why when you explain something to them they don`t get it,they can`t.if they had one or two decades of real dub time under their belts they might be able to pull it off.just hanging out with dubs won`t do it.so to all the old ex dub war horses i tell you to just keep your eyes open and you will spot the dub groupies.
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Ooooh.
I bow my head to the ground in deepest devotions....