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  CURIOSITY HAS TOUCHED DOWN ON MARS!!!

  by Quendi in

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  glenster

  http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2408362,00.asp
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mars_Science_Laboratory
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  Reuters Story; Worldwide drop in "Religiosity" since 2005.

  by Balaamsass in

  1. social
  2. current

  by tom heneghan, religion editor.

  paris | wed aug 8, 2012 1:41pm edt.

  paris (reuters) - traditionally catholic ireland has registered almost the steepest drop worldwide in people calling themselves religious in a new survey tracking international trends in faith and atheism in recent years.. only 47 percent of irish polled said they were religious people, a 22-point drop from the 69 percent recorded in the last similar poll in 2005, according to the win-gallup international network of opinion pollsters.. average religiosity in the 57 countries included in the poll was 59 percent, a decline of 9 points since 2005, it said.. at the same time, the number of people declaring themselves to be convinced atheists rose from 4 percent worldwide in 2005 to 7 percent this year.

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  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Demographics_of_religion
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  Duped By Animal Planet: Mermaids, The Body Found

  by Cold Steel in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

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  glenster

  I have Science Daily and Discovery among my iGoogle sites. I've noticed such
  concerns showing up on the Discovery site (is the round metal thing at the
  bottom of the ocean an alien space ship? and such) compared to how similar
  topics are handled at Science Daily. Animal Planet is distributed by Discovery.
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Animal_Planet

  Back when my Mom was alive, we used to like to watch shows by David Atten-
  borough for shows about animals.
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VjE0Kdfos4Y
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Attenborough
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  From Noah to Jerusalem: What is: Abstain from Blood?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  at a certain point in time, in the 1st century c.e., the two groups of humanity stood face to face: the covenant jews and the noahide gentiles.. they were about to join hands for the first time by being grafted together under a belief in jesus as the redeemer of both groups.. .

  this raised a conflict which needed to be settled.. .

  the conflict was this:.

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  glenster

  cofty--blood represented life. Shedding it from an animal took the life,
  which the follower offered back to God as a ritual way to honor God as the ulti-
  mate life giver and taker.

  But Dt.14:21 tells followers to not eat animals found dead--they were to give
  them to foreigners for foreigners to use them as food, which all the more set
  off the followers as holy (so foreigners weren't under a Noachine literal blood
  rule) (passage at the next link):
  http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+14&version=NIV

  "Acts 15 is simply a restatement of the 3 elements of the Law that must be
  kept by an 'alien resident' - fornication, idolatry and blood. By keeping these
  things Jewish and Gentile christians could enjoy fellowship.

  Proselytes had a lot more than three rules (article at the next link):
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proselyte#Two_kinds_of_proselyte_in_Judaism

  
  "Idolatry," worship of whatever other than God, could be done without food and
  isn't one of the rules. It wouldn't be discouraged due to proximity to Jewish
  law followers but generally.

  "Things offered to idols" included the common meats of Corinth. It doesn't
  ban them generally since Christians like Paul could eat them apart from idolatry
  and without being idolatrous. But since those meats were from animals
  slaughtered by Gentiles and made the partaker unclean to Jews, the abstinence
  was for socialization with Jewish law followers. (Also see Paul's other writ-
  ings about food, etc.)

  mP--I don't think the rule on "blood" was a reference to killing. Rules about
  treatment of slaves would have been made more clear than by just using the word
  "blood" (another reason being that, again, it would be likely to be thought of
  as a reference to koshering in Jewish culture).
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  From Noah to Jerusalem: What is: Abstain from Blood?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  at a certain point in time, in the 1st century c.e., the two groups of humanity stood face to face: the covenant jews and the noahide gentiles.. they were about to join hands for the first time by being grafted together under a belief in jesus as the redeemer of both groups.. .

  this raised a conflict which needed to be settled.. .

  the conflict was this:.

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  glenster

  Gen.9 doesn't define blood as "murder" but "life." Distinguishing shedding
  blood in murder from eating blood, esp. in a list of foods in a culture with a
  food ban for eating blood, would be clarified by the Gen.9 phrasing (“Whoever
  sheds human blood, by humans shall their blood be shed," also Acts 22:20) but it
  wasn't used in Acts 15.

  The more common interpretation doesn't create a repetition of "blood" and
  "things strangled" so a need to avoid it by interpreting "blood" as meaning
  "murder." By the more common interpretation:

  abstain from

  blood--eating meat not koshered and blood per se

  things offered to idols--meat from idol temples which was probably not
  koshered but off limits to Jewish law followers regardless because it was from
  unclean Gentiles

  things strangled--typically given as a referance lost to time, a common guess
  being meat taken from a since-forgotten ritual of the time and place. (It possi-
  bly had to do with the belief in attributes of an animal being transferred to
  the human who kills it, possibly something else, also meat not koshered, and
  probably not a Jewish as likely as a Gentile activity, but who knows? It was
  something offensive to Jewish law.)

  fornication--notably idol temple prostitution, commonly accepted in Gentile
  culture and rejected by Jewish law

  Roman slavery was different from Jewish law slavery in various ways:
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slavery_in_ancient_Rome#Treatment
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judaism_and_slavery#Treatment_of_slaves
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  psychic awarness

  by Star tiger in

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  glenster

  Awar
  http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/news/id.20706/title.awar-explains-making-the-laws-of-nature-releasing-album-with-nottz/
  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AWAR
  http://www.awar.org/

  Edgar Casey
  pp.189-190 "FLIM-FLAM! Psychics,ESP,Unicorns and other Delusions" by James
  Randi
  http://psychicinvestigator.com/demo/ReinSkp4.htm
  http://psychicinvestigator.com/demo/ReinTxt6.htm
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  From Noah to Jerusalem: What is: Abstain from Blood?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  at a certain point in time, in the 1st century c.e., the two groups of humanity stood face to face: the covenant jews and the noahide gentiles.. they were about to join hands for the first time by being grafted together under a belief in jesus as the redeemer of both groups.. .

  this raised a conflict which needed to be settled.. .

  the conflict was this:.

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  glenster

  "Well, my point is that the phrase 'abstain from....blood' meant "thou shalt
  not kill" rather than "don't eat candy with blood lecithin in it".

  I agree about the candy.

  That "abstain from....blood' meant "thou shalt not kill" is imaginable at Acts
  15 and has been proposed before but I doubt it. "Abstain from murder" would be
  more likely as a way to phrase that, esp. in a Jewish community that would like-
  ly take "abstain from blood" as a rule about koshering.

  Likewise, "abstain from idolatry" would be more clearly about all types of
  idolatry, which don't always involve food, than phrases about astaining from
  types of food idolators might use which could be used otherwise as just food.
  Besides, abstain from murder wouldn't be qualified by the idea of "because of
  Jewish law followers."

  But non-kosher meat butchered by Gentiles, used in idol ceremonies, and temple
  prostitution, fornication to Jewish law followers, were common among Gentiles
  and made them unclean to Jewish law followers, who saw problems in the Chris-
  tians accepting Gentiles into the fold.

  Likewise, a prohibition of blood per se as food in Gen.9 is imaginable, but
  the least it needs to refer to is live animals and murder. Imagining blood per
  se at Gen.9 runs into a conflict with followers told to give others meat from
  animals found dead (not a problem w/Gen.9) and undrained of blood (it would be
  a problem w/Gen.9 if taken to include a prohibition of literal blood) at Deut.
  14:21.

  By Christian times, Christians aren't told to believe in Jesus but, if they
  don't, they can use a discount package--you only need to follow the Noachine
  rules. The "because" given in Acts 15 (as at 16:3, regarding having Timothy
  circumcised, and at 21:20-25) is the existence of Jewish law followers (a common
  part of the Christian community before 70 AD), not because of anything about
  Noah.
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  I MAY VERY WELL MEET RINGO STARR!

  by Band on the Run in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  newflash in the ongoing addiction and mania that started at age twelve when the national broadcast news showed pictures of these english boys with very, very long hair.

  i stopped by a local grocery store b/c i was not certain that a challis scarf was wool or rayon b/c the fabric content is in arabic.

  thank allah for arabic numerals.

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  glenster

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p5sgVi88SXU
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t6CMSuT98-E
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  Sir Laurence Gardner

  by leeza in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  has anyone ever heard of sir laurence gardner?

  i have read about his lecture at www.karenlyster.com/body_bookish.html and i find it intriguing.

  it is a rather long read; but, i find it neccessary to explain his credentials etc.

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  glenster

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sir_Laurence_Gardner

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conspiracy_theory

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pseudohistory
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  From Noah to Jerusalem: What is: Abstain from Blood?

  by Terry in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  at a certain point in time, in the 1st century c.e., the two groups of humanity stood face to face: the covenant jews and the noahide gentiles.. they were about to join hands for the first time by being grafted together under a belief in jesus as the redeemer of both groups.. .

  this raised a conflict which needed to be settled.. .

  the conflict was this:.

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  glenster

  If I had to put it as simply as possible, I respect that the basic God concept
  is possible, and you could have faith understood as such, for a possible God be-
  yond the known things (Liberal/Progressive/Reform). But public acceptance for
  hurting or killing (as by letting a child die at a hospital) for perceived in-
  tegrity of an old interpretation of an old text (Orthodox/Conservative) requires
  proof of God, and proof he wants the hurting and killing done, for all or it's
  arbitrary hurting and killing--sadism and murder.
  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SEllHMWkXEU

  Anything less than certainty about meanings of old texts only adds to the
  arbitrariness of the hurting and killing. The GB policies are at best arbitrary
  and at worst self-contradictory and in contradiction to scriptures and history.
  That's why I cover even uncertainties of the GB policies to the degree I do.

  Problems with tying the idea of 7 Noachine rules to the GB policies for
  Acts 15
  http://gtw6437.tripod.com/id30.html

  History of interpretations of the Council of Jerusalem
  http://gtw6437.tripod.com/id27.html
  http://gtw6437.tripod.com/id28.html

  Degree of blood removal by slaughter
  http://gtw6437.tripod.com/id26.html

  Blood removal isn't really specified until Mosaic law, then degree of blood
  removal (as much as possible, koshering--Jewish/generalization, more than half--
  GB) isn't really clear, although the Jewish view has the better case, until Je-
  sus' time, when the Jews believed in koshering.
  http://gtw6437.tripod.com/id30.html

  Most people at this message board probably don't need me to explain the case,
  but the stronger case is that the Christians didn't have to worry about kosher-
  ing but didn't want to alienate Jewish law followers, who were particularly con-
  cerned that the Gentiles did the four things of the rules of Acts 15 (Paul's
  writings about food, Acts 15,16,21).
  http://gtw6437.tripod.com/id50.html