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"Honour" Killing in Pakistan
by cofty in25 year old farzana iqbal was stoned to death by a crowd led by her own father and two of her brothers outside the high court in lahore yesterday.. her crime was to reject her cousin, who her family had decided she should marry, and fall in love with a man of her own choosing.. thousands of women are murdered every year in so-called "honour killings" but convictions are very rare.
pakistani law permits victim's families to forgive a murderer, but in these cases the killers are family members who are nominated to carry out the execution by the rest of the family.. this is what happens when you allow a mysogynistic religion to influence secular law.. reuters report...l.
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"Honour" Killing in Pakistan
by cofty in25 year old farzana iqbal was stoned to death by a crowd led by her own father and two of her brothers outside the high court in lahore yesterday.. her crime was to reject her cousin, who her family had decided she should marry, and fall in love with a man of her own choosing.. thousands of women are murdered every year in so-called "honour killings" but convictions are very rare.
pakistani law permits victim's families to forgive a murderer, but in these cases the killers are family members who are nominated to carry out the execution by the rest of the family.. this is what happens when you allow a mysogynistic religion to influence secular law.. reuters report...l.
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glenster
Wikipedia > Pakistan Penal Code > Full text of the Pakistan Penal
Code – up-to-date with all amendments – Pakistani.org
http://www.pakistani.org/pakistan/legislation/1860/actXLVof1860.htmlEdit > Find > 311
Part of a related article:
"This discretionary power to punish after waiver of Qisas in case of Qatl-i-Amd
liable to Qisas, or to refuse a settlement in a case of Qatl-i-Amd liable to
Tazir, has been granted to trial and appellate judges under the Qisas & Diyat
laws. Unfortunately, Pakistan’s judges have in the past misunderstood the Islamic
jurisprudential principles at the foundations of these laws and have failed to
exercise their discretionary powers. Most judges refuse to sentence the accused in
Qisas cases after a pardon by any of the heirs or fail to adequately police the
compromise settlement in Tazir cases. As a result the critics rightly argue that
the Qisas & Diyat laws result in acquittals for the accused in a majority of
cases. The responsibility for this regrettable state of affairs lies squarely with
our judiciary rather than with Islamic law.
http://www.thenews.com.pk/Todays-News-13-4181-Raymond-Davis-vs-Qisas-&-Diyat-Laws -
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"Honour" Killing in Pakistan
by cofty in25 year old farzana iqbal was stoned to death by a crowd led by her own father and two of her brothers outside the high court in lahore yesterday.. her crime was to reject her cousin, who her family had decided she should marry, and fall in love with a man of her own choosing.. thousands of women are murdered every year in so-called "honour killings" but convictions are very rare.
pakistani law permits victim's families to forgive a murderer, but in these cases the killers are family members who are nominated to carry out the execution by the rest of the family.. this is what happens when you allow a mysogynistic religion to influence secular law.. reuters report...l.
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glenster
The case is mentioned in this article:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honour_killing_in_Pakistan#Specific_occurrencesOn 27 May 2014 a pregnant woman was stoned to death by her own family in front
of a Pakistani High Court for marrying the man she loved. Police investigator
Mujahid quoted the father as saying: "I killed my daughter as she had insulted all
of our family by marrying a man without our consent, and I have no regret over
it."1990 Qisas and Diyat Ordinance
Most honor killings are encompassed by the 1990 Qisas and Diyat Ordinance, which
permits the individual and his or her family to retain control over a crime, in-
cluding the right to determine whether to report the crime, prosecute the offend,
or demand diyat (or compensation). This allows serious crimes such as honor kill-
ings to become "privatized" and to escape state scrutiny, shifting responsibility
from the state to the individual.Under Islamic Sharia law, the punishment for murder, homicide or infliction of
injury can either be in the form of qisas (equal punishment for the crime com-
mitted) or diyat (monetary compensation payable to the victims or their legal
heirs). These concepts are applied in different ways in different Islamic systems.In Pakistan, the right to waive qisas, or punishment, is given to family of the
victim. If and when the case reaches a court of law, the victim's family may
'pardon' the murderer (who may well be one of them), or be pressured to accept
diyat (financial compensation). The murderer then goes free. Courts have used
provisions like this to circumvent penalties for honor killings.Once such a pardon has been secured, the state has no further writ on the matter
although often the killers are relatives of the victim. Human rights agencies in
Pakistan have repeatedly emphasized that women falling prey to karo-kari were
usually those wanting to marry of their own will. In many cases, the victims held
properties that the male members of their families did not wish to lose if the
women chose to marry outside the family. More often than not, the karo-kari murder
relates to inheritance problems, feud-settling, or to get rid of the wife, for in-
stance in order to remarry.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honour_killing_in_PakistanCauses
There are multiple causes for which honor killings occur, and numerous factors
interact with each other.Views on women
Honor killings are often a result of strongly patriarchal views on women, and
the position of women in society. In these traditional male dominated societies
women are dependent first on their father and then on their husband, whom they are
expected to obey. Women are viewed as property and not as individuals with their
own agency. As such, they must submit to male authority figures in the family –
failure to do so can result in extreme violence as punishment. Violence is seen as
a way of ensuring compliance and preventing rebellion.Cultures of honor and shame
The concept of family honor is extremely important in many communities. The fam-
ily is viewed as the main source of honor and the community highly values the re-
lationship between honor and the family. Acts by family members which may be con-
sidered inappropriate are seen as bringing shame to the family in the eyes of the
community. Such acts often include female behaviors that are related to sex out-
side marriage or way of dressing, but may also include male homosexuality (like
the emo killings in Iraq). The family loses face in the community, and may be
shunned by relatives. The only way the shame can be erased is through a killing.Laws
Legal frameworks can encourage honor killings. Such laws include on one side
leniency towards such killings, and on the other side criminalization of various
behaviors, such as extramarital sex, 'indecent' dressing in public places, or
homosexual sexual acts, with these laws acting as a way of reassuring perpetrators
of honor killings that people engaging in these behaviors deserve punishment.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honor_killing#CausesReligion
Widney Brown, the advocacy director of Human Rights Watch, said that the prac-
tice "goes across cultures and across religions". Human rights advocates have com-
pared "honor killing" to "crimes of passion" in Latin America (which are sometimes
treated extremely leniently) and also to the killing of women for lack of dowry
in India. Honor crimes occur in societies where there is an interplay between dis-
criminatory traditions of justice and statutory law. In some countries, this dis-
crimination is exacerbated by the inclusion of Shari'a, Islamic law, or the con-
cept of zina (sex outside of marriage).Tahira Shaid Khan, a professor of women's issues at Aga Khan University, notes
that there is nothing in the Qur'an that permits or sanctions honor killings.
Khan instead blames it on attitudes (across different classes, ethnic and reli-
gious groups) that view women as property with no rights of their own as the mo-
tivation for honor killings. Khan also argues that this view results in violence
against women and their being turned "into a commodity which can be exchanged,
bought and sold".
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Another Shooting Massacre
by whathehadas inhttp://abcnews.go.com/us/santa-barbara-shooting-suspect-calls-loneliness-darkest-hell/story?id=23855994&ts=true.
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glenster
You're welcome! He also seems to have had NPD--narcissistic personality dis-
order:
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Another Shooting Massacre
by whathehadas inhttp://abcnews.go.com/us/santa-barbara-shooting-suspect-calls-loneliness-darkest-hell/story?id=23855994&ts=true.
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glenster
"I didn't think people with aspergers were psychotic."
A smattering of the Wikipedia ideas that may be relevant:
...is characterized by significant difficulties in social interaction and non-
verbal communication....Although not required for diagnosis, physical clumsiness and atypical (peculiar,
odd) use of language are frequently reported.A 2008 review found that an overwhelming number of reported violent criminals
with AS had coexisting psychiatric disorders such as schizoaffective disorder.A lack of demonstrated cognitive empathy has a significant impact on aspects of
communal living for persons with Asperger syndrome. Individuals with AS experience
difficulties in basic elements of social interaction, which may include a failure
to develop friendships or to seek shared enjoyments or achievements with others
(for example, showing others objects of interest), a lack of social or emotional
reciprocity (social "games" give-and-take mechanic), and impaired nonverbal behav-
iors in areas such as eye contact, facial expression, posture, and gesture.People with AS may not be as withdrawn around others compared to those with oth-
er, more debilitating, forms of autism; they approach others, even if awkwardly.
For example, a person with AS may engage in a one-sided, long-winded speech about
a favorite topic, while misunderstanding or not recognizing the listener's feel-
ings or reactions, such as a wish to change the topic of talk or end the interac-
tion.[9] This social awkwardness has been called "active but odd".[1] This fail-
ure to react appropriately to social interaction may appear as disregard for other
people's feelings, and may come across as insensitive. However, not all individ-
uals with AS will approach others. Some of them may even display selective mutism,
speaking not at all to most people and excessively to specific people. Some may
choose only to talk to people they like.Individuals with AS appear to have normal life expectancy, but have an increased
prevalence of comorbid psychiatric conditions, such as major depressive disorder
and anxiety disorder that may significantly affect prognosis.Adolescents with AS may exhibit ongoing difficulty with self care or organiza-
tion, and disturbances in social and romantic relationships. Despite high cogni-
tive potential, most young adults with AS remain at home, although some do marry
and work independently. The "different-ness" adolescents experience can be
traumatic. Anxiety may stem from preoccupation over possible violations of rou-
tines and rituals, from being placed in a situation without a clear schedule or
expectations, or from concern with failing in social encounters; the resulting
stress may manifest as inattention, withdrawal, reliance on obsessions, hyperac-
tivity, or aggressive or oppositional behavior. Depression is often the result of
chronic frustration from repeated failure to engage others socially, and mood dis-
orders requiring treatment may develop. Clinical experience suggests the rate of
suicide may be higher among those with AS, but this has not been confirmed by sys-
tematic empirical studies.
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Another Shooting Massacre
by whathehadas inhttp://abcnews.go.com/us/santa-barbara-shooting-suspect-calls-loneliness-darkest-hell/story?id=23855994&ts=true.
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Another Shooting Massacre
by whathehadas inhttp://abcnews.go.com/us/santa-barbara-shooting-suspect-calls-loneliness-darkest-hell/story?id=23855994&ts=true.
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glenster
Killer's family tried to intervene before rampage
http://news.yahoo.com/killers-family-tried-intervene-rampage-073702315.html -
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Songs/Albums that a smile on your face
by FL_Panthers incould be for whatever reason.
i shall go first:.
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glenster
Fontella Bass - Rescue Me
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S9mp3s2gpy8
Stephen Colbert - I Don't Feel Like Dancin'
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hTeZPHPKdps
Melissa Manchester - Bad Weather (S. Wonder)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnEZAY3xqsw
Johnny Costa - Moonlight Sonata and Just One of Those Things
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m80yOeOx1Tw
Todd Rundgren - Baby Let's Swing/The Last Thing You Said/Don't Crush Me In Between
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iMu-hNM5V0kFaces w/K. Richards - Sweet Little Rock n Roller (C. Berry)
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Another Shooting Massacre
by whathehadas inhttp://abcnews.go.com/us/santa-barbara-shooting-suspect-calls-loneliness-darkest-hell/story?id=23855994&ts=true.
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glenster
Murder–suicide:
"The cultural anthropologist Ernest Becker, whose theories on the human notion
of death is strongly influenced by Freud, views the fear of death as a universal
phenomenon, a fear repressed in the unconscious and of which people are largely
unaware. This fear can move individuals toward heroism, but also to scapegoating.
Failed attempts to achieve heroism, according to this view, can lead to mental
illness and/or antisocial behavior."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murder%E2%80%93suicidePseudocommando
"They typically see their actions through a narcissistic lens as being morally
justified in revenge against their unfair treatment by an uncaring world, and wish
to 'go out in a blaze of glory.'"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PseudocommandoSpree killer--serial killer but without the cooling off period--almost no time
break--between murders.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spree_killerRampage killer "has sometimes been used to describe spree killers, but it does
not differentiate between mass murderers and spree killers."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_rampage_killersElliot Rodgers
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t-jCSZh2tMk
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by whathehadas inhttp://abcnews.go.com/us/santa-barbara-shooting-suspect-calls-loneliness-darkest-hell/story?id=23855994&ts=true.
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glenster
I read he had a mild case of Asperger's Syndrome. That may have presented some
challenge in adapting socially but wouldn't explain the elitism, vanity, and
shooting spree plot (see YouTube video). I think someone missed pursuing a
subject in their recent therapy meetings.