Posts by glenster

1914 came after 1913 and war isn't an omen.

You could honestly claim the degree of exclusiveness of a literal 144,000
if you taught that Jesus was created and to be worshipped and invisibly appeared
in 1874, Adam and Eve appeared 6,000 years before that and were Caucasian, the
earth was created 42,000 years before that, and if you publicly spurned Christian
charity except for donations for Russell's publications > dummy companies so
Russell could use gifts to pay of his alimony. Defining Christianity that way,
he was also right in predicting that it would come to ruin.

Note: Wikipedia says he correctly predicted global warming (?). This might be
surprising except this is what he actually predicted:
http://www.pastor-russell.com/legacy/warming.html

- predicted that God would make the world like the Garden of Eden for the ones
He saved for eternity, which would require that the parts of the world less hos-
pitable to human life and farming would have to change into places that are per-
fect for it, which isn't the same thing and didn't happen, and

- guessed about the possibility (didn't predict) that his prediction of a per-
iod of trouble (1874 to 1914 would be 40 years of the worst trouble the world
has known, later known to be one of his failed predictions) could be marked off
by drastically different climate than that hospitable to human life, and that
when Jesus visibly returned (Oct., 1914, Oct., 1915, a few years after 1916)
there would be climate changes to bring about a Garden of Eden-type climate by
the end of the subsequent millenium, which didn't happen, either. ("Zion's Watch
Tower," Sept., 1883, p.8, Sept., 1886, p.1, Aug., 1896, p.189)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_warming#Recent

He claimed in 1903 and 1913 that the trend would continue of polar ice caps
getting smaller as they were doing in his present time, and they would drift to-
ward the equator. The quality of the data before 1950 is debatable, but there's
no indication the polar ice caps were doing any more than going through their
annual changes in shape in his lifetime. The Arctic Sea ice has gotten notably
smaller and the Antarctic ice has grown a bit since about 1957, and they haven't
drifted to the equator. ("Zion's Watch Tower," Jan., 1913, p.11, May, 1903, p.
131)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_ice_packs

In the 1913 example, he threw in a support for the canopy effect, which isn't
indicated by science and would require a batch of attending miracles to pull
off, as part of an attempt to justify his literal interpretation of the Noah
flood.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flood_geology#Vapor_canopy

One change that went on in Russell's lifetime and since that he and others may
have noticed is that urban areas were growing, and urban areas are warmer than
countryside, but that isn't what he reported.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Urban_heat_island

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Is it ok to malign another's faith?

by bluecanary in

i've seen this come up on multiple threads.

rather than derail them all, i'd like to talk about it here.. jws seem to feel that it is a form of persecution for anyone to question, doubt or speak negatively of their beliefs or organization.

yet, they are taught to do this to other religions.

glenster

Nothing has caused more harm than people getting too 'centric about their
belief or non-belief group (or race, nationality, etc.). About any time people
percieve they're in a group, some will rationalize they're the good ones and
the others are all stupid, crazy, and cause all the trouble in the world. Just
tell the ones who got too 'centric, and not all the others of the group who
were nice people, to dig themselves and stop it--they're the ones who cause
the most trouble in the world.

There's also a difference between a nice person of sincere belief or non-
belief outlook and something like Popoff with the transmitter in his ear--the
way Von Daniken, Geller, JWs leaders, etc., make a phony show of exclusiveness
for personal gain, especially if anyone can be hurt ror killed. About any time
you have a group, some will cook stuff up to sell the group something extra-
ordinary that they want to hear. Don't pick on the victims--focus on the trans-
mitter and show people. You won't have to spend a second making a cranky, in-
tolerant, 'centric editorial.

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If...and...had a child, the baby might grow up to look like....

by glenster in

http://www.morphthing.com/.

glenster

Judge Rutherford and Fuhrer Hitler:

http://www.morphthing.com/image/16324067-Rutherford2-jpg-AdolfHitler3-jpg?key=3fe2207c98fd726bdc61b380518b50d3

Q: Which was particularly known for making broadcasts of their hope that everyone would die soon except his little group?

A: Trick question.

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If...and...had a child, the baby might grow up to look like....

by glenster in

http://www.morphthing.com/.

glenster

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oOzdlmz918g

Charles Taze Russell and Ayatollah Khomeini:

http://www.morphthing.com/image/16322605-russellphotodrama2c-jpg-AyatollahKhomeini-jpg?key=31a9ef9a9084366801ef120cdcb9b66b

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WHERE in the bible does it say each creative day was 6,000 years? Ending around 1975??

by Witness 007 in

could be 8,000 or 18,000 years long......if to jehovah each "a day is like a thousand years and a thousand years a day.

" 1975 armagedon theory was based on this.

{notice how this theory has since died off} my wife was told off by an elder for giving a talk on "creative days not 24 hours" but not stating each was 6,000 years long...she said she didn't believe it....he backed off and said okay then!

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If...and...had a child, the baby might grow up to look like....

by glenster in

http://www.morphthing.com/.

glenster

Poor Obama.

Nathan H. Knorr and Richard M. Nixon:

http://www.morphthing.com/image/16293784-nknorr2-jpg-nixon6-jpg?key=626537efa5c72945aae36213bc0826ff

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If...and...had a child, the baby might grow up to look like....

by glenster in

http://www.morphthing.com/.

glenster

Fred Franz and Boris Karloff's Frankenstein monster:

http://www.morphthing.com/image/16292300-fredfranz3-jpg-karlofffrankenstein-jpg?key=7e0916d0726e23dbbd4510b5776ad80e