Another "Flim Flam" fan! I think the Project Alpha plan was similar:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Derren_Brown#Messiah
glenster
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Derren Brown - How to Control the Nation
by Mickey mouse inderren brown has a series of popular shows running in the uk at the moment called the events.
this week's episode purported to show him predicting the national lottery numbers live on television; he employs suggestion, mentalism, psychology and trickery in his work and in this instance it was mostly camera trickery.. next week's looks interesting, he claims he will use the power of suggestion to prevent people from being able to get out of their seats at home.. http://derrenbrown.channel4.com/derren-brown-the-events-control.shtml.
the good thing about derren brown is that he never claims to be psychic or have special powers; his act often reveals how so called spiritualists were able to give the impression of special powers when all that was involved was illusion.. the best part is that he is bringing into the public domain information about the power of mind control.
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glenster
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Logic Teaser
by TD inin a remote village, half the population lies all the time; the other half tells the truth all the time.
a traveler approaches three natives in this village.
he asks the first one, "are you a liar?
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Logic Teaser
by TD inin a remote village, half the population lies all the time; the other half tells the truth all the time.
a traveler approaches three natives in this village.
he asks the first one, "are you a liar?
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Bible reading = Balaam has an intelligent conversation with his Donkey? Is this wierd?
by Witness 007 inthis weeks bible reading in numbers has balaam talking to his donkey like in the movie "shrek.
" what would a donkey say if it had human vocal cords?
probably: "carrots......moooore carrots.
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glenster
One of my favorite stories of a person talking with an animal:
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Hitler Stalin and King David...all guilty of genocide and War crimes!!!!
by Witness 007 inwe all hear how the enemies of israel were cruel horrid people and deserved to die.
lets look at king david.
2 samuel 2:4 after defeating the moabite army in battle he makes the survivors lay down in rowes on the ground...he then gets a mesuring tape and mesures each row killing two out of three survivors!
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glenster
Personally, I'd like to see the clouds part and hear Charleton Heston talking
from a shrub before I'd kill someone for God. I also prefer the idea of Jesus
and Paul not needing a country, with punishment for disbelief and a military to
defend it, for the God belief than having the country/military for it (one of
the reasons for me that Muhammad was a regression and not the improvement he
claimed--too retro).
That said, it's not really a problem for the God concept. If He didn't have
people die then, He'd have them die later--He has everybody die, which leads to
God's prerogative, which leads to Job, etc.
However, it also leads back to the thing I wrote first. If the concept is
that God has the prerogative and told someone, I'd want the same before I did
it--I'd want to see God tell us to do it or no deal. So far, it hasn't come up. -
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Bible reading = Balaam has an intelligent conversation with his Donkey? Is this wierd?
by Witness 007 inthis weeks bible reading in numbers has balaam talking to his donkey like in the movie "shrek.
" what would a donkey say if it had human vocal cords?
probably: "carrots......moooore carrots.
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glenster
Balaam thought he was dealing with a smart ass so Balaam beat his ass.
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Belief in God, the Easter Bunny, Santa Clause, and Fairy God Mothers
by frankiespeakin inwhen we were a young child full of wonder at the world, so new, so innocent, we believed what ever mommy and daddy told us, if they said there was a tooth fairy why we believed it until we got older(hopefully) especially when we get our permanent teeth.. santa was probably discarded around the same time as the tooth fairy give or take a few years depending on gullibility or lack of it.. well lets face it we probably figured out the easter bunny first for the simple reason you only got some eggs,, which you can have any day of the week and you get to eat a lot of chocolate bunnies ears off not very pious mind you, nor do you fear the bunny might seek revenge for the impious act in some way like god might do remembering: the ark and ussa or wassa or something.
that definately should be considered as a contributing factor as to why and what order they get debuncked tooth fairy danta the benifit factor need to be brought in.. god too has to go in time, eventually, just like not all at once and for everybody.
religion to control the mind is on a head on course with human species vastly excellerated enlightenment.
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glenster
"The more science discovers and explains about our world, the less places
there are for this kind of god to hide."
The flaw in giving that as a certainty is that it forces an absolute whereas
it can only be said of certain interpretations of writers (which is a Bible
research and study issue) and not as an absolute about a possible God the
writing is about:
There were followers long ago with allegorical instead of literal interpreta-
tions (such as regarding the first chapters of Genesis and how God brought the
universe and life into being).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Augustine_of_Hippo#Natural_knowledge_and_biblical_interpretation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allegorical_interpretations_of_Genesis
http://dsc.discovery.com/news/news.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Science_and_the_Bible
Increasing knowledge of how expansive the universe is doesn't require us to
think that God is less likely because the universe is increasingly thought to be
useless to life because it's often thought we should look for life out there.
http://www.sciencedaily.com/news/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Extraterrestrial_life
There were interpretations that a verse is meant to represent things as the
writer knew them and not as God would know them (such as claims about verses
about a person not thinking someone could live beyond death, not knowing a
later prophetic interpretation of a verse, or two writers each giving the number
they thought were at a situation conceded to the higher number).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_history
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_archaeology_school
Some interpretation differences are due to assuming God did or didn't inspire
the verse (that the prophecy was made before or after the event it's about) or
even forcing the point about contradiction when reconciliation is imaginable
(Mark giving the time of the crucifixion by the Jewish method of a day starting
at sunrise and John using the Greek method of a day starting at midnight, about
accounts in Genesis--see above, etc.).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Biblical_studies
http://books.google.com/books?id=sRAcER113wUC&pg=PA337&lpg=PA337&dq=time+of+crucifixion+mark+john&source=bl&ots=LAHbFgP1nF&sig=MX88X7r_aYMVq8cCydN-L8u1jEE&hl=en&ei=Nq-qSuikOIaqsgOEi5mPBQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3#v=onepage&q=time%20of%20crucifixion%20mark%20john&f=false
There are translation and interpretation disputes (such as over the homosexu-
ality issue or how to reconcile verses with each other or history).
http://escapefromwatchtower.com/homo.html
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_homosexuality
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bible_and_history#Schools_of_archaeological_and_historical_thought
Claims such as of God healing through someone can't be proven wrong because
the healer isn't available for testing and the claim is ultimately about a
possible God that could do it.
That God isn't meant as all-beneficent provider of heaven on earth has been
apparent since back when the scriptures (such as some of the earliest, like Job)
were first written by just looking around.
Other than claims of direct experiences, belief in God was generally a matter
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Logic Teaser
by TD inin a remote village, half the population lies all the time; the other half tells the truth all the time.
a traveler approaches three natives in this village.
he asks the first one, "are you a liar?
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glenster
Ruling out the possibility of being mistaken:
A. If 1 said he's not a liar and he's not a liar, he'd be an honest villager
who told the truth about himself, 2 told the truth, and 3 is lying about 1
(falsely accusing 1 of being a liar, not 2 of translating 1 falsely) or 3 is
lying about 2 (falsely accusing 2 of falsely translating 1--that 1 actually
identified himself as a liar, although that can't happen: see C and D below).
B. If 1 said he's not a liar and he is a liar, he'd be a liar who lied about
himself, 2 told the truth, and 3 either told the truth about 1 being a liar (not
2 of translating 1 falsely) or lied about 2 (falsely accusing 2 of falsely
translating 1--that 1 actually identified himself as a liar, even though that
can't happen: see C and D below).
C. If 1 said he's a liar and he is a liar, he'd be a liar who told the truth
about himself, but that can't happen because the villagers either tell the truth
all the time or lie all the time.
D. If 1 said he's a liar and he isn't a liar, he'd be an honest villager who
lied about it, which can't happen because the villagers either tell the truth
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Logic Teaser
by TD inin a remote village, half the population lies all the time; the other half tells the truth all the time.
a traveler approaches three natives in this village.
he asks the first one, "are you a liar?
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glenster
It reminds me of something you might see in one of Raymond Smullyan's logic
puzzle books like "What is the Name of This Book? The riddle of Dracula and
other logical puzzles."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Raymond_Smullyan
One of the easier ones I remember:
While two men look at a portrait, one says to the other: "Brothers and sisters
have I none, but that man's father is my father's son." Whose portait is it? -
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The Beatles - Remastered
by lepermessiah inhas anyone picked those up?
i am really curious to hear the discs.
the reviews have been excellent!.
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