glenster
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Immortality.....will it come from god or man, The answer's here
by Wizard of Oz inimmortality......will it come from god or man.
just finished watching a short thought provoking doco about the major advances science has made toward that goal.
it can be accessed @.
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Is the bible really god's inspired word?
by yalbmert99 inhttp://www.watchtowerlies.com/watchtowerlies_148.htm.
the watchtower bible and tract society pretends that the bible "really is gods inspired word" -the watchtower march 1, 2010 p. 4-7. but is it true?
if god has inspired the bible, how come the bible doesnt mention many important things?
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glenster
Science/knowledge is mainly useful for an argument against an orthodox/funda-
mentalist literalist stance and may be used by a non-believer or a believer.
Noting anything less than what we'd have in heavenly circumstances forever is
useful against an all-beneficent God stance that a non-believer or believer
might point out is wrong.Believers in the Bible don't all have the same opinions. They can be
categorized as orthodox, conservative, liberal, or progressive/reform. I'd
recommend progressive/reform as having superior ground rules, including regard
for old texts. Among them. if faith in God is a hope for a possible God beyond
the known things, keep up to speed about the known things. As they grow, the
knowledge has to develope--no arguments against evolution, bigotry about
homosexuals or feminism, etc.If those arise, you better get a different interpretation, translation, or
figure it represents the culture of the time and not what God would know. As
knowledge develops, faith in a God beyond the known things must develope
accordingly.Since it's a belief in a possible God beyond the known things, understand
faith in God (or whatever fantastic story about God intervening) as such like a
subjective reaction to music beyond the objective math of it. Punishing people
for apostasy creates the ethical/theological problem of arbitrary hurting/
killing--sadism/murder. There should be separation of church and state. Nobody
should be hurt or killed in punishment from a belief in God stance or state
atheism purges of believers.Example: Herman Cain--prove to me homosexuality isn't a sin--the Bible says
it is and that's enough for me. Besides Cain having an arbitrary conservative
interpretation, the known things show a small % of people and animals are born
that way. If you can only spread harm for God ethically with proof of God (as
in "there He is parting the sea"), and spreading bigotry creates the harm of a
stigma and discrimination (let alone Islamic hadiths that call for execution),
Cain has the proof shoe on the wrong foot.I'd recommend believers/non-believers who wouldn't hurt or kill over such
stuff, and have a healthy respect for learning about the known things, agree to
dislike the believers/non-believers who would do differently. Message boards
usually pit believers against non-believers, but if there's an overview of us/
them I'd recommend to minimize harm, it's that.If we "need" to agree on the math of music and leave subjective reactions to
the individual, it neither makes a case us "need"ing to like or not like the
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Just why did He create Mosquitoes?
by jean-luc picard inso if blood is so precious in gods sight, just why did he create mosquitoes?.
or did they used to drink orange juice in the past?.
and if you feel up to it, here's a load of other blood sucking creatures that are living on you, every day.. .
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glenster
OT: it was a symbolic ceremonial way for followers to honor God as the
ultimate life giver/taker--followers were to only take life as prescribed in
their rules.(One theory about Mosaic food rules is similar: that they were a ceremonial
way to honor God by basing rules on the Genesis descriptions: aquatic life that
swam could be eaten, not shellfish. Birds like storks that spent too much time
in the fishes domain couldn't be eaten, etc.)It wasn't a total ban on the substance for everybody/everything--Mosaic law
followers were to give animals found dead (not drained by slaughter) to others
as food (Deut.14:21).
http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Deuteronomy+14%3A21&version=NASB(The latter may be used to occasionally PO a JW who isn't prepared for the
question about it.)Like various other Mosaic rules, it set the followers off from everybody else
who didn't have the rule. That, and unclean people/things rules that put an
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Just why did He create Mosquitoes?
by jean-luc picard inso if blood is so precious in gods sight, just why did he create mosquitoes?.
or did they used to drink orange juice in the past?.
and if you feel up to it, here's a load of other blood sucking creatures that are living on you, every day.. .
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glenster
The Abrahamic God isn't meant as an all-beneficent God: any example of some-
thing other than people living forever in heavenly circumstances, or of scrip-
tures of God not loving things, would be indications. Love provided/found in
life for believers is like that provided/found in the good and bad of life for
non-believers.The JWs leaders' collection of forced points, evidences omitted, and mis-
characterizations about the Bible requiring followers to abide by their blood
rule is mainly wrong as a case of the leaders feigning exclusiveness over a
faith matter to make money despite human deaths caused.
http://glenster1.webs.com/gtjbrooklynindex.htmThe JWs leaders don't have a stance to be faulted about how their blood rules
relate to a regard of mosquitoes and other blood-sucking parasites that cause
death...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosquito-borne_disease
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mosquitoes#Disease...however, the JWs leaders do share a resemblance to them except, being
people, they're more culpable.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcTyAT4QJxY
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Immortality.....will it come from god or man, The answer's here
by Wizard of Oz inimmortality......will it come from god or man.
just finished watching a short thought provoking doco about the major advances science has made toward that goal.
it can be accessed @.
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RIP Earl Scruggs (1924-2012)
by leavingwt inin the late 70's, my father gave me an 8-track recording of flatt & scruggs' carnegie hall concert from 1962. i became an instant fan.
earl passed away yesterday, but his music will live forever.
he was among the greatest banjo players the world has known.
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Who Lost The End of Mark's Gospel?
by cofty inthis is a question for those who still hold a supernatural view of the bible.. it would seem to be certain that the gospel of mark was the first to be written, and that matthew and luke copied large parts of mark when compiling their gospels.. from a theological perspective the most important event in the story - the heart of the gospel or "good news" is the resurrection of jesus.
it was this event and its implications that the disciples proclaimed.. the way that mark reports the resurrection is puzzling.
when the sabbath was over, mary magdalene, mary the mother of james, and salome bought spices so that they might go to anoint jesus body.
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Ok one more time...How do YOU view Jesus???
by 3dogs1husband inso i tried to start a thread here... www.jehovahs-witness.net/social/humour/223581/1/untitled-topic.
and i left it untitled - duh and now i cannot reply to it, and am having trouble opening it.
i thought i would try this again.
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glenster
We have a video of Malcolm's announcement to the Governing Body:
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How to beat and control your wife: a new Muslim marriage book!
by Terry ina local bookstore has sold out of a controversial marriage guide that advises muslim men on how to beat their wives.. .
the 160-page book, published by idara impex in new delhi, india, is written by hazrat maulana ashraf ali thanvi, whos described in the books foreword as a prolific writer on almost every topic of islamic learning.. .
the stores manager, who didnt give his name, said the book had been sold out for some time, and the stores owner, whom the manager identified as shamim ahmad, refused to comment for the story.. .
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glenster
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e0mKw41UUwQ
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Stoning_of_Soraya_M.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Capital_punishment#Islam
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stoning#In_IslamWomen are stupid isn't in the Qur'an, it's from Al-Tabari 1:280:
Allah said It is my obligation to make her bleed once every month as she
made this tree bleed. I must also make Eve stupid, although I created her
intelligent.Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari--838–923 CE--was a prominent and influential
Kharji scholar, historian and exegete of the Qur'an from Tabaristan, modern
Mazandaran in Persia/Iran.
http://wikiislam.net/wiki/Concerns_with_Islam:_How_Women_Are_Perceived_Disrespectfully
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_ibn_Jarir_al-Tabari