I just want to say, "Welcome!" You may have an easier time of con tacting Randy Waters at freeminds.org. Also, if it comes down to divorce, don't let our husband bully you into giving up your kids. There's a booklet on jw custody disputes. It can be found at jwchildcustody.com.
jamiebowers
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New here looking for some help
by angel.face inlong story short, i have been a jw for the pst 7 years.
i am married with 2 kids.
hubby is a die hard jw who is an ms and would like to be elder.
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It's my Birthday!
by drewcoul init's my birthday today, sept 19. i was born in 1972. .
i find it interesting that so many people i know post a "happy birthday" on my facebook page.
all of those years inside the wts org., and i always thought birthdays were evil, pagan, god dishonoring.
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jamiebowers
Dew and Enlightened Mind, I don't know if we're Facebook friends, but just in case we're not, I'll wish you both a Happy Birthday!!!!!!
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So who is going to do some kind of protest next Sunday?
by serenitynow! innext sunday is the discussion of the 7/15/2011 wt article about shunning.
i am planning to stand outside of a kh on a major street with a big banner that says that the jws do indeed destroy families with their shunning policy.
i will have many copies of the article that will be discussed that day.. anyone else have any plans?.
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jamiebowers
You go girl! If it doesn't do any good, like most people say, I'm sure you'll think of something else. You're smart and a real go getter!
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Greetings everyone
by MoneurMallard inhello everybody, i studied with the jehovah's about 10 years ago, was never baptized, never a publisher, never really did anything, went to a few of the watchtime meetings.
my purpose at the time was a study on comparative religion, which i eventually became a student of in full practice.
of all the organizations i met with, the witnesses were the most friendly at first, welcoming me to ask many questions about the bible.
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jamiebowers
Welcome. I haven't read the other thread yet, but please note that English is not Possible sans first language. I don't know if that has anything to do with it or not.
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Watchtower says saying "despicable fool" is same as saying "apostate"
by Greybeard inthe following watchtower article comment blew my mind!
check it out:.
questions from readers.
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jamiebowers
Welcome to JWN! There's a more recent Watchtower article that calls apostates "mentally diseased" or some such nonsense. People have been clamouring about it for days here on JWN. I couldn't care less what those vipers have to say in the past, present or future. Stick around, you'll get a real education here!
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After leaving the Faith, do you celebrate all of the Holidays?
by Quarterback ini could never understand how some who don't follow some of the moral restrictions in the jw faith, are strong against celebrating the .
religious holidays such as christmas, and easter etc.. do you celebrate the holidays knowing some of their origins?.
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jamiebowers
I celebrate them all with great relish! Everything has pagan origins, and it means nothing.
I can see the time of year for family to get together, but hunting for Easter eggs? Is this really fun?
Easter egg hunts are fun for kids, and putting them on is fun for adults. Plus, if a person likes sweets, candy in particular, who wouldn't love an Easter basket?
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"Sorry, we were wrong." - WHAT IF
by irondork inif your parent(s) / children / siblings / friends apologized after all the years of shunning, can you forgive or has too much damage been done?.
for me it's kind of a double whammy.
got kicked out at age 19 for being gay and disfellowshipped.
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jamiebowers
Irondork, I think it may be particularly difficult for df'd gay people to forgive shunners, because you were df'd for something that is part of your core being. But if your jw friends and family learned not only the truth about the "truth" but were also enlightened about the naturalness of homosexuality, you may be able to forgive them.
I'm pretty sure I could forgive my jw mom for shunning my brother and me, but I could never trust her completely as long as her husband is in the picture. But that's because he was evil even before he became a jw.
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i was happy in and i'm happy out
by never been happier incan i tell my story,briefly.
i spent 18 yrs on the ministry,11 of them as an unbaptised publisher,i refused to get baptised because the dedication was a vow to the society,not a vow to god as defined in scripture,this led to many many debates with the elders and i often raised the "millions now living will never die" issue and several other points but was always told about the "light getting brighter" and "imperfect men" but eventually i relented and jumped in the water.i wish now that i'd read bro franz's books,particularly crisis of conscience before doing that,would have saved many hours preaching false doctrines of men, as doctrines of god.but once i got on the internet and started researching....what,bro russell is buried with a huge pyramid,was into numerology,loved freemasons,had ancient egyptian symbols on his books,couldn't prophesy what the name of tomorrow would be,said jesus was already present since 1799,1874,1878,1914,1918,.. and the judge was even worse"1925 is even more clearly prophesied in scripture than 1914" "millions now living will never die"(recently re-written as millions now living may never die),built a lovely house beth sarim for the returning brothers to live in,but lived in it him self,and drove around in their car.then came the new name jehovahs witnesses,but jc said we would be witnesses of him ,and suffer because of his name,thats what christianity is.then 1935 and heaven was closed to new entrants until 2005 when 2 new bros were put on the gb who weren't even born in 1935.no one in my congregation batted an eye to it...but the doctrines were still true...weren't they????????
sorry but they have more holes than my watering can.. they resorted to quoting the johanas greber bible,written under trance by grebo and his spirit medium wife and used to back up the wts version of john 1:1.so jumping ahead,when i was pointed to the un deception(an organisation which hosts the temple of set in th un tower) it was time to bale out,simple as that.they won't hear anything i have to say but oddly they haven't called a judicial for me either.i was in my late 20's when i joined and i got my child-hood buddy into it about 10 yrs ago,but he now refuses to acknowledge me and he only lives 100yds away,and apart from 2 or 3 others thats it as far as contact goes.but the crucial saving for me was the fact that i always kept association with outside friends and my wife never joined so the change was much easier than some of you have had.ihaven't found a new church,yet,i loved god before the wts stuck their ore in and i still love god since i got out.
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jamiebowers
Welcome to JWN! There are plenty of believers on this board, however, I'm not one of them. But that desn't mean we can't talk.
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A warning for all from Totally ADD
by TotallyADD init has been four days since i have been on jwn.
because i am not as young as i used to be.
as many know my wife and i are opening up a donut store.
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jamiebowers
So sorry to hear that, but I think using a jack hammer would mess anyone up, no matter their age! Get lots of rest, take Tylenol and soak in copius amounts of hot water. A liitle Ben-Gay wouldn't hurt either.
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A Room With a View
by Berengaria inanyone familiar with this movie?
i think it may be my favorite of all time.
that or pulp fiction.
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jamiebowers
Loved "Room with a View", "Howard's End", and watching "Remains of the Day" with my husband is what convinced me he was the "one". A real tough guy, the last of the hard asses, and he had a single tear running down his face by the end of the movie...my dream man; a real man's man who actually gets "Remains of the Day".