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  Quick question, did you feel lonely at the meetings even though you were part of the action?

  by Theocratic Sedition in

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  2. friends

  just curious, something i've noticed only lately.

  i'm in the mix within the congregation, stay late after the meeting is over, converse with quite a few people afterwards, make plans for saturday and sometimes sunday service and yet i feel so awfully alone walking to my car afterwards.

  i feel lonely when i'm talking and laughing with people after the meeting.

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  jamiebowers

  Wow, I REALLY want to thank you for your insight, laughs, and hugs. Mostly your insight and experiences. I thought I'd been through all the emotions typical of this dual agent role, but this sort of loneliness is new to me. I hope any lurkers viewing this can see they're not the only ones going through this or have went through this.

  Miz, just from our private messages I know you're such a good person...a little rough around the edges, but still you have such a loving heart. Maybe your loneliness will help you to build a social network outside of the cult. I hope so, because you need to be appreciated for who you are, not what you are as a jw. Having "worldly" friends, and maybe even a girlfriend, will do that for you.
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  I've been thinking the Bible isn't legitimate--long indoor mat-rant

  by sd-7 in

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  i'm not sure where this thought came from (believers will no doubt say 'from satan'), but it has started to coalesce in my brain lately.

  i've often referred to the bible and argued from it to debunk jw beliefs, and still tried to consider it as a great piece of literature at the very least.

  but as my wife was listening to the meeting on a loud speaker phone at home this weekend, i just had this thought.

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  jamiebowers

  I suppose I'm still evolving without even being conscious of it.

  Welcome to the world without mind control!
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  I've been thinking the Bible isn't legitimate--long indoor mat-rant

  by sd-7 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm not sure where this thought came from (believers will no doubt say 'from satan'), but it has started to coalesce in my brain lately.

  i've often referred to the bible and argued from it to debunk jw beliefs, and still tried to consider it as a great piece of literature at the very least.

  but as my wife was listening to the meeting on a loud speaker phone at home this weekend, i just had this thought.

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  jamiebowers

  I think many people, both ex and non jws have come to the same conclusions. You have a wonderfully loving heart and brilliant mind and don't need a religion to be your moral compass.
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  Quick question, did you feel lonely at the meetings even though you were part of the action?

  by Theocratic Sedition in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just curious, something i've noticed only lately.

  i'm in the mix within the congregation, stay late after the meeting is over, converse with quite a few people afterwards, make plans for saturday and sometimes sunday service and yet i feel so awfully alone walking to my car afterwards.

  i feel lonely when i'm talking and laughing with people after the meeting.

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  jamiebowers

  Miz, my heart aches for you and people in your same circumstance. Even if you feel that you can't leave this cult, please form a social structure outside of it. You deserve to feel comraderie and love. Life is nothing without those things.
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  Hi! Life story of young, 23-year-old (gay), disassociated, non-baptized publisher

  by HillCountry in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  hello, this is my first post and the first time i have told my entire story, albeit abridged, to anyone.

  it will be a long story, sorry.. my grandparents were brought up with different religious backgrounds but converted to bible students around the depression era.

  later, my grandfather met my grandmother through the congregation and got married until his death, having a marriage that lasted over four decades.

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  Thanks for your story. Please get some counseling for being raised a jw and to reconcile yourself with your sexual orientation. You deserve to experience romantic love and a satisfying sex life. You also have the right to a commited relationship despite whatever your family's reaction may be.
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  Yorkshire Ripper (brother Peter Sutcliffe) vouches for Jimmy Savile

  by oldlightnewshite in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4629105/peter-sutcliffe-claims-jimmy-savile-is-innocent.html.

  according to the yorkshire ripper, a repentant psychopath who is now a jehovah's witness in prison, jimmy savile is just being exploited because he can't refute any of the 300 allegations of molestation and rape.

  there are some who think that jimmy savile may even have had a psychopathic personality.

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  http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/news/4629105/peter-sutcliffe-claims-jimmy-savile-is-innocent.html
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  Yet another intro letter

  by problemaddict in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  to the mod, if this is posted in the wrong place please feel free to move it to wherever is appropriate.. so here is another lurker turned community member.

  i might write up a life story at some point, but for the sake of time here are the abc's of me.. raised a jw.

  friends for the most part are all jw's.

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  jamiebowers

  Welcome! I hope you read or have read Combatting Cult Mind Control for your wife's sake. It helps to reach the true personality and not the cult one.
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  Hello from Rooster McDooster

  by RoosterMcDooster in

  1. jw
  2. friends

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  i've been lurking around here for a while, so i feel like i know most of you already.

  its been a rough 20 years getting here, but now here i am.

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  jamiebowers

  Welcome...can't wait to hear your story!
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  Remembering V (and others) on this 5th of November

  by darthfader in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  to v and all the other "uberpostates" who have gone to great lengths to inform the public about the cult that is the jehovah's witnesses, i take today to say thanks to you all.. v's jw commentsfreemindsjwfactsjwsurveymarvin shilmer's blogspotim sure there are many others.. thanks guys!.

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  jamiebowers

  Clickable

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0KmPuZoroRw
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  Update on Mrs Obvious and myself

  by Captain Obvious in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  well it's been about 8 months since my final wake up.

  as some may remember for my intro thread, i panicked and was way too aggressive at first with telling my wife all about this scam we're a part of.

  she freaked, thinking satan had me for sure.

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  jamiebowers

  Since it's been in the news recently, why not compare what was done at Penn State with the Conti trial?