i was raised in the truth, but when i got baptized i threw away great computer games i owned (secretly).
such as Ultima VII and Ascendancy. i had an orginal copy of Ultima VII on floppy disk! i still want it back :( one of the greatest games of that era.
today im still a jw, but im no longer affected by any "laws". i buy and keep everything i want since years. in fact i stopped throwing things to the trash for nothing 4 years after my first attempt. im baptized since 11 years.
Marcel
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What did you have to dispose of when you became a dub?
by exwitless inlittle drummer boy's comment on the d&d thread made me think about this:.
when i became one of the borg, i threw out about $600 worth of pnp materials and books, a fact that i was proud of at the time and which makes me sick now because almost all of it is irreplaceable.
he also threw away who knows how many cds that were "bad" for dubs; also threw away a framed picture of a dragon that was really cool, and maybe some cool rock band t-shirts.. i don't remember having to physically throw away a lot of stuff, but i had to resign from the citizen's band i was in (played the clarinet), threw away my good friends from high school, etc.. what did you all throw away when you became dubs that you regret now?.
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Big Screen TV: LCD or Plama? Which Brand?
by UnConfused inanyone with personal experience concerning big screen tv's?
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ive got a Philips 32PF9551 and i love it.
its a TFT screen with ambilight 32". you can watch it from nearly any angle.
the only disadvantage i could find is that black and dark pictures have quality issues. but thats just a TFT problem. while a CRT and a Plasma TV has a pure blackscreen illuminating the pixels a TFT is naturally bright white darkening the black areas.
we all should just wait for the first laserdisplays coming out in 2 to 10 years :D
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Monty Python video- Don't say "Jehovah"
by OnTheWayOut ini don't know if it's been posted before.
it gets hysterically funny toward the end.. http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-7241030510383279767&q=jehovah&hl=en.
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perfect movie! fortunately ive seen it the first time when i was already liberate enough not to turn of the TV and destroy the tape.
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Storys about demons and how they react to JWs - What do You think?
by Marcel ini dont believe much of the societys teachings anymore.
but theres one thing that i carried with me all my life:
when everything is false, what is about those stories about demons, seances and all that stuff that is out in the world?
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hi misocup.
you said you "know" that theres something outthere. can you explain why do you believe that?
regards
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Storys about demons and how they react to JWs - What do You think?
by Marcel ini dont believe much of the societys teachings anymore.
but theres one thing that i carried with me all my life:
when everything is false, what is about those stories about demons, seances and all that stuff that is out in the world?
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hi Anti-Christ! yeah, thats right in many cases. because someone who actually experienced it would not ask. i heard from somebody who heard from somebody that australia is a country somewhere south of asia. i wasnt there. but i do not doubt a bit that there isnt that mystical *australia*... :-D what i want to say is: thats no real argument... sadly...
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Do you (still) pray to God?
by Marcel inim still a witness, but my mind is shunned, already.
im staying for fear, since i dont have anything outside the jw's.
im not a hardliner saying im sure jw's are wrong or god dont exists, but i confessed myself that i just dont know and i guess strongly that a menmade organization which behaves and acts like the wts cant be the right.
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thank you all for your warm words! yes, i *LOVE* this mixture of different views without any threat. its like something i missed my whole life. im still struggling finding a way out of my wts misery, but i see light at the end of the tunnle.
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Storys about demons and how they react to JWs - What do You think?
by Marcel ini dont believe much of the societys teachings anymore.
but theres one thing that i carried with me all my life:
when everything is false, what is about those stories about demons, seances and all that stuff that is out in the world?
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thank you very much zico! the fact that members of the "false religion" also succeeds in calling their false gods makes a huge difference. i thought about that already, but never found any evidences for that. thank you for your suggestions.
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Storys about demons and how they react to JWs - What do You think?
by Marcel ini dont believe much of the societys teachings anymore.
but theres one thing that i carried with me all my life:
when everything is false, what is about those stories about demons, seances and all that stuff that is out in the world?
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Hi! I dont believe much of the Societys teachings anymore. But theres one thing that i carried with me all my life: When everything is false, what is about those stories about demons, seances and all that stuff that is out in the world? everything just made up? if there is just one evidence of paranormal activity it would convince myself that the bible is truth. and that would imply that im not allowed to ignore it. so if the society is wrong... what else could i do? im not that type of person who starts a new cult :D its not like stories about demons/ghosts/whatever are far away from me or out of the societies books only. my mother told me about a demon haunting a flat of a friend (everytime the friend left the flat and come back all doors were opened. even with witnesses (elders)). another story of a friend of mine is about a nuthouse he was working in. he told me that there were *some* patients who recognized him as a "servant of jehovah" without seeing him before. another story was about a seance a friend was watching (moving objects - she regreted it deeply to try that when she was young) and a knocking on the door of her bedroom the other night (while her friend was sleeping in the same room and heared it too) and the knocking went away forever when she shouted "please jehovah help me!". to tell the truth those occurences convinced me long ago to kick away my doubts away. later i doubted more and more things like kind of waking up. but this paranormal occurences always let me think: if any of these stories have a true background (and i trust every single person who told me that stories) i may be misled leaving the witnesses. im a fader and my mind is already shunned ;) but these keeps me thinking. what do think about that? do you ever experienced paranormal activities? have you heard stories about from friends/relatives? do you think that some of the stories are true? can you believe the bible and or jw's are wrong even if you believe there actually IS more that science can measure? Thank You for your comments (and sorry for my english ;() Marcel
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Ran into a JW and DFed, DAed, or faded?
by pierogi inokay, i'm interested in experiences where you are dfed, daed or faded and you ran into a jw somewhere.
if you are dfed or daed, most likely they'd just ignore you.
this is unless you ran into them at work (like a restaurant, bank, grocery store) where it is there job to talk to you.
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I am definetly a fader. But I have managed to fade very safely into a zone where I still associate with all my family. I don't share my views with anyone but my wordly husband and noone asks. Mostly everyone I know in the small town who are witnesses are very nice to me, as I was always well received in the congergation. However there are a few elders and distant cousins who are a little to righteous to make eye contact with me. I dont mind to much. Sometimes I'm in the mood to be extra sweet to them so they have to feel guilty for being rude to me. I do occasionaly get asked by some older sisters if I am ever coming back to meetings I just smile and say maybe. It just seems easier.
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hi twinkle toes!
seriously: i would give my left arm to let my wife being like you ;( im a fader myself (in the first stages. im still active in many ways... but with no fun and always just the minimum effort), but my girl just doesnt understand what i am saying. at the beginning she almost was angered to the extreme when i said bad things about the society shouting at me (and me shouting back then). its been better currently. we dont fight about it anymore and besides the religion topic everythings is fine. she got lazy going to service and things because i dont pull her anymore. but she is still a 100% believer. its like society == god. there is no room for any doubt that the society MAY not be what it says about itself. she doesnt even think about it. when i say something critical about the society she goes like: "dont you think it hurts jehovah that you dont love him anymore?"? and that she isnt the one to talk about those things because there are the elders. she doesnt understand why i dont want to speak to the elders about that topic. and if i dont im guilty for my own problems she says. speaking to the elders implies that i want to be "cured" of my thoughts. i would like a openminded discussion without any threats. not a lesson in faith and punishment if i dont pass the test...
im 25, raised in the faith and my whole family is in the truth (except some relatives far away). my mother would cry cry cry if she knows my thoughts. its so hard.
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Do you (still) pray to God?
by Marcel inim still a witness, but my mind is shunned, already.
im staying for fear, since i dont have anything outside the jw's.
im not a hardliner saying im sure jw's are wrong or god dont exists, but i confessed myself that i just dont know and i guess strongly that a menmade organization which behaves and acts like the wts cant be the right.
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Hello!
im still a witness, but my mind is shunned, already. im staying for fear, since i dont have anything outside the jw's. im not a hardliner saying im sure jw's are wrong or god dont exists, but i confessed myself that i just dont know and i guess strongly that a menmade organization which behaves and acts like the WTS cant be the right.
okay, here comes the tricky part:
Do you (still) pray to God?
To my own surprise i still pray to God regulary. I pray to him for forgiving my doubts (if they're wrong), i pray for saying thank you for good things, i pray for help in my faith crisis (showing me the right way) and i pray when things arent nice and i need help. (btw.: sometimes when i prayed for guidance in faith i found new arguments against the WTS short after...)
i dont even know whether gods really exists (but i still think its a serious possibility), so my prayer may be a just-in-case thing. it doesnt cost me much so i pray without knowing whether someone hears me. the funny part is that i pray more than other witnesses in my household who are full believers.
but honestly i dont really know whether i pray. its just a feeling.
im very interested how shunned/doubtful/believing witnesses handling this.
did you stop praying at all, still doing it or did you never had any (imagined?) relationship to god?
Thank You
marcel