hey AK-Jeff,
do you know what my still functioning JW mind tells me IMMEDIATELY when i read your post?
i tell you: "hes angry about not getting appointed as an elder and thats why he left the truth and became an apostate. the elders guided through the holy spirit saw that lack of love and humbleness before and thats why they didnt appoint him at all."
and i bet thats the thing your whole ex-congregation thinks. isnt it sad?
im sorry for my JW mind. 
marcel
Marcel
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Just reviewing my years of non-appointment as an elder.
by AK - Jeff ini had 'reached out' to be an elder for a decade before i finally understood the reasons why i was not, nor would i ever be one.. each visit of the co, my name was on the list of discussion.
i know this because i was told by both co's and local elders.
the vote was always close, sometimes i missed the cut due to 'low hours' on the part of my wife or daughter, othertimes due to some variation in the way the wts was looking at particular 'requirements'.
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Do JWs actually believe the things they're taught?
by R.F. inthe governing body has much control over the lives, thoughts, actions, etc..of many.
i was thinking of the "new light" policy and this gives the gb virtually unlimited power to do what they want.. take this for instance: we know how doctrines such as no trinity, no hellfire, and no immortal soul, are all considered the core beliefs that will never change.
lets just that today the gb just happens to reverse them all...what would happen?
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Elders ARE idiots!!
by Gill inthis has always been my opinion, even as a 'loyal' jw!
i thought that elders were idiots.
i have only ever known one who has ever had any real education, a solicitor and he was an arrogant twonk, the rest were a pathetic bunch of bullies who 'appeared' to be loving and kind but were infact out to find out the shit about everyone and cause as much trouble for everyone as possible.
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many elders i know are really loving misguided men. some of them even intelligent.
what was that quote someone posted here yesterday?
it was like "good humans act good and bad humans act bad - religion is the only tool to let good humans act bad."
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Quote of the day
by loosie inwith or without religion, you would have good people doing good things and evil people doing evil things.
but for good people to do evil things, that takes religion.. - steven weinberg
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Anyone else have an aversion to singing?
by AllAlongTheWatchtower ini was reading the threads http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/129051/1.ashx (remember the song make the truth your own?
) and http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/9/136242/1.ashx (the messages are always there), and was reminded that i had been intending to post something along these lines before and never got around to it.
note: i was raised in the wcg (armstrong), not a jw, but i've found they're similar in many ways, and i believe this to be another one:.
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What didn't you do because you were a JW that you now regret?
by jwfacts ini just bought a bottle of wine for an exjw's 30th that i am about to run off to.
on it there was a great quote by mark twain:.
"twenty years from now you will be more disappointed by the things that you didn't do than by the ones you did do... explore.
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listened to my baptism speech recording the first time after 11 years
by Marcel inwhile posting yesterday i remembered the recording of my baptism talk i own.
i want to share the story with you: .
i was baptized on a circuit assembly in 1996. my sister gave me the recording on a tape the very next day as a gift (cute, uh?).
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Hi!
while posting yesterday i remembered the recording of my baptism talk i own.
i want to share the story with you:
i was baptized on a circuit assembly in 1996. my sister gave me the recording on a tape the very next day as a gift (cute, uh?). for the next 11 years i wasnt able to listen to it, because i had almost only bad feelings about this particular day. i was raised as a JW, i had dedicated me, i had studied, i had tried hard to switch off my sins. but since i did the wrong thing only 2 days before my baptism AGAIN i felt incredibly sick on that day. i didnt felp appropriate. i felt like lieing to god himself and spit in his face. and lieing to my whole family and friends too. the sin i commited was a sin most ppl knew well when they became a teenager and feel their hormones racing. i dont wanna go into detail
as a result of this i prayed my whole time as a teenager almost every other night with tears in my eyes for forgiveness. i was an auxiliarity pioneer too - because that made me feel better. some years later there was an article in the awake who shed a new light (in contrary to the young people ask book) on that topic and literally said that it is okay to get baptized when such a sin plagues one but he fights against it. the first time after many years i felt worthy again. "proper food for the right time" i thought and i prayed happily and thanked god for his help.
but the tape... it scared still the sh*t out of me. it took me another 7 years.
today im in big doubt about the JWs and fading. and i remembered that tape.
so i listened to it its a weired feeling to hear that talk. i can remember it still very well. i remember the feelings i had. its like yesterday. but i dont feel bad about it anymore. and i decided to make a copy on compact disc, because the tape get worse everyday. its a part of my life and i want to preserve it.
sharing that with you i come up with the question:
do you have similar feelings about your baptism or were you in a similar situation?
thank you for reading!
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What is/was the last most believable date for second coming/Armageddon?
by AllAlongTheWatchtower ini was never a witness, i joined this site after my wife started studying with them, and i got upset over some of the things that resulted from that.
however, i grew up in a similar high-control group called the worldwide church of god.
much like the witnesses, in the mid 70s ( i forget the exact year, i was only in elementary school in those days, but it may have been 75, just like jws), there was a big push toward the end being at hand, the great tribulation is coming, etc etc.
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the next one is 2034 = 1914 + 120 years (like noah had to wait for the flood)
the most believable was 1975 for me.at least if i were already existing in that year
1914 is a farce just as 1915,1918,1925,1994,etc. independently they point to armageddon or something else. ive heard an annointed one who said secretly (for not becoming disfellowshipped), that all these dates are rubbish in her eyes (except 1914 i guess, she didnt specified that). shes dead now - she probably knows the truth or nothing at all now
i think the most jws believe (and i was one of them) that there isnt a specific date but since the world is bad it cant be much longer - its sooo cloooose. i would have voted this way:
chance to be still living in the old system in the year:
2008: 95%
2010: 80%
2015: 70%
2020: 50%
2030: 30%
2035: 20%
2100: 0.1%
lol but thats just the same way as the guys in 1908 thought! im sure.
when i was a kid my mother told me that i wont probably leave elementary school and by no chance have to work in this system of things. lol. damn. -
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Friendly talk with a couple of elders
by TooBad TooSad inlast week i received a home visit from a couple of elders because they were concerned about my spirituality.
and lack of progress.
i said so you can guarantee the end will be here in 5 years.
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