Posts by SnakesInTheTower

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Sept.15th WT - WT Society uses Guilt & Fear to Avoid Friendship & Internet

by flipper in

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friends

once again my wife and i were sent the " witness only " wt version by our lurking jw friend that they study at wt study meetings.

and once again wt society is showing very controlling tendencies towards it's jw members.. do any of you remember the " old days " in the 1970's or early 1980's when witnesses used to have goody night after book study ?

or you would have a " potluck picnic " with about 30 to 40 people getting to know one another to draw close as friends outside the confines of the kingdom hall ?

SnakesInTheTower

I remember once organizing a congregation picnic where we stopped at this abandoned/quarried out area along the river. It was known there were lots of fossils, trilobites, etc. I think we were studying the Creation book at the time and it talked about them. The goal was to find enough of them for each CBS group to have one to talk about the following week. We succeeded. Then the groups all went further up the river road to a state park. While some of the older ones with a disabled sister in a wheelchair prepped the BBQ in the picnic area, we all went hiking. Came back, ate, all had a great time.

Unfortunately, one or two pairs of young teenagers went off on a side trail away from the main group. Whether anything actually happened or not who knows. That was the beginning of the end of such large scale picnics.

The CBS group that I conducted toward the end we had a goodie night once a month. Best attended of all the nights and we had a close little group.(Side note: donuthole, do you remember that group? You were part of it until you were DF. Do you know what ever happened to that family? The host of that home was an elder that you confided in... and the elders attacked him and you. )

Things started falling apart in the congo and the book studies when the socializing was discouraged/out right banned.

stupid cult. glad I am out.

Snakes (Rich )

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Can I request my own Disfellowshiping?

by Joshnaz in

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friends

just want to know, and how to do it.

i've been out of the religion for 12 years now and just want a reason for my parents to not talk to me, seeing how they don't anyhow i don't think it'll hurt any..

SnakesInTheTower

yep. just tell em you do not believe in the FDS and its GB anymore. that should do 'er. Or just tell them you are disassociating. It will be the same announcement: "Joshnaz is no longer one of Jehovah's Witnesses." Half the audience will look around at each other and say "Josh who?"

In all seriousness...12 years? Who cares what your status with WTBTS is. And for your parents, hell my JW mom rarely talks to me anymore and I am not even DF.

Snakes (Rich )

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Hello fellow apostates

by gumby in

gumby here, thought i'd say hi to everyone.

my nutbag is still intact but it's a tough road to please others in order to keep a family.

really tough.. i'm glad this place is still here as it's a haven for you ex-es and a means to help others to see that when man (governing body) is a mediator between christ and oneself, it becomes a cult.. .

SnakesInTheTower

glad to see you still pop in once in awhile gumby....

Snakes (Rich )

ps to funnyface...hiya granny grace...still cant get into your mouthy account?

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Got a visit from door-to-door JW's!

by donuthole in

today while i was home for a quick lunch break i got a knock at the door.

i opened the door and was surprised to see two elderly jehovah's witnesses women.

i haven't been called on since i've been out for four years, so this was a bit of surprise.

SnakesInTheTower

dh:

Yep, there it is. Oh rats, her white car isn't there. I guess I'll try the door anyway since we came all this way."

so is that why we both always had not at home return visits when we worked together? LOL In reality, I had a fancy schmancy RV book.... kept very organized..... and almost none of those RVs were interested. Most of them were scratched out. Lots of dates, fake notes from previous "successful" RVs...until they were finally determined "NI" (not interested).

My trick was to work with those older ones who had lots and lots of return visits. I would volunteer to take them to their calls all over town...especially the ones out in the country.....take lots of time to get there. The older ones appreciated that I did not speed. I appreciated that I controlled the car not them. In reality, most of their calls were mere social visits with a sprinkling of magazines.

I think that is why my JW mom goes out 5 days a week... socializing.

Snakes (Rich )

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Please ring in if you have currently hold a "rank" in the WTBTS

by stillin9 in

just wondering how many active pioneers, elders, ministerial servants, or perhaps even co's visit this forum.

no need to disclose any personal information just what you serve as.. i am sure other threads similar to this have existed but what the heck.... i'll start off.... i am currently serving as a ms in a congregation in the us.. .

so what your's rank?.

SnakesInTheTower

currently and forever more....... nothing (though I dont like the whole "non-practicing JW" thing. maybe I should just up and DA. I left 3+ years ago.

When I was an elder/pioneer, I frequented this site as a visitor, a lurker. I needed answers. I got them. I left. (Oh, I was a doubting JW even while attending MTS....upon graduating, I was no longer doubting.....I was sure it was all BS...it only took me 5 more years to leave.

Snakes (Rich )

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Sign on WT Building... make your own!

by Mastodon in

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friends

here's a pic with the sign removed... have at it!

let's do this right!

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SnakesInTheTower

oh my God....FSM... I am laughing so damn hard right now... I needed that laugh... thank you

Snakes (Rich

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Got a visit from door-to-door JW's!

by donuthole in

today while i was home for a quick lunch break i got a knock at the door.

i opened the door and was surprised to see two elderly jehovah's witnesses women.

i haven't been called on since i've been out for four years, so this was a bit of surprise.

SnakesInTheTower

quentin:

at least 3min attempting to get someone to the door. Rang bell, no answer, knocked door, no answer, rang bell, no answer, well, you get the picture. Heh, heh, sometimes we even went to the back

the only reason I do this now is in my job as a bill collector. sometimes I even knock like a cop. When I was a "pioneer" (though by 1986, what were we really pioneering?), I had the fake door bell ring, light knock, leave a tract, hit and run down pat. I hated pioneering and door to door in general...even admitted it from the platform during public talks and service meeting parts. That got people's attention. I was not kidding.

On a similar front.....I seen a whole bunch (gaggle, flock, group?) of dubs in a QT (QuikTrip) convenience store today (Granite City, IL). One older (50s?...so older than me) sister was waiting next to me in line for the restroom (the men's room was closed for cleaning). Do you think she would take the opportunity to share The Good News of the Kingdom® with this poor sap? No...but I am certain they did not recognize me....even though I had given several talks in their KH. Mostly sisters, but one older brother.... all buttoned up in his suit and tie...suit coat buttoned all the way.... not sure if he looked dapper or lost. He sure did not look like he wanted to be there. Mostly they stood inside of this store between the donuts and the coffee stand yakking.... sure not much "urgency" in their message.

Snakes (Rich )

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MUST READ AlanF's email to Knocking.org

by sf in

this is a must-read that, hopefully, will stay an "active topic" for all seekers and lurkers, by bumping it to the top as often as possible.

alan wrote it in randys {dogpatch} thread regarding knocking.org documentary and in reply to the email mr. engardio sent to barbara anderson.

however, it is so vital a read that it indeed needs its own thread:.

SnakesInTheTower

bump and marking... excellent.... wonder how I overlooked this excellent nugget both here and on randy's site. It was a link from Freeminds to JWD that got me on this board.

maybe I should forward this to my mom... nah...she is blind. I am not df and she is already all but shunning me.

c u l t

Snakes (Rich )

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FlyingHighNow's Nephew's shunning - tragic ending

by Incognito in

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friends

flyinghighnow (heather) updated her thread last evening about her nephew's shunning treatment by his own mother.

this story has now taken a tragic turn and because heather had updated the original thread, it has been buried and has not gotten the recognition it deserves.. the third page of the original thread is here: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/members/private/196991/3/my-lovely-jw-sister-just-said-this-to-her-oldest-son last evenings post is about half way down.. .

please provide heather some kindness and support that she needs at this time.. .

SnakesInTheTower

heather....

I am saddened and horrified. I cannot imagine what is going through your sister's mind now.

Our family went through this lesson 16 years ago. I know my JW dad treated my little brother, never baptized, badly. The last time they were together (my brother was a teenager), they had a heated argument (about what, the fog of time has wiped out) dad threw him off the porch step and dislocated his shoulder. That weekend, my dad went on vacation and died of heart failure. That was their last words and actions. My little brother lives with this to this day. Fu*ked him up more than he already was. My JW mom and dad argued (about my brother) the night before he died...in the morning dad was dead. Screwed up my JW mom too. My JW dad was an ass to his family and was judgmental as hell...much like your sister.

I use this lesson with my 9yo (soon to be) step son. I tell him and his mom (never JWs) never let the last words we say to each other before going to sleep or parting ways to go to school or work be harsh. Always let them be "I love you." Unconditionally. We have been together a little over a year. It is words the three of us live by.

I hope your sister learns from this harsh life lesson and that your nephew did not die in vain.

(((heather))) RIP DAVID....

Snakes (Rich )

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Got a visit from door-to-door JW's!

by donuthole in

today while i was home for a quick lunch break i got a knock at the door.

i opened the door and was surprised to see two elderly jehovah's witnesses women.

i haven't been called on since i've been out for four years, so this was a bit of surprise.

SnakesInTheTower

StoneWall:

Here's a situation where they find someone wanting to talk to them and they run. I love it. hahaha

So few people at the door actually stop and listen to JWs anymore that when one finally does, a JW does not know how to handle it. All we were really ever taught on a regular basis was those worthless "Conversation Stopper" things in the UNReasoning book. I always thought that those were a bit condescending or outright offensive (or just dumb...ie; "May I ask why you feel that way?"...really....)....even though I also remember having multiple parts on the SM with those filler parts from the rs book.

All the dubs do now are what my non-JW brother calls "Guerrilla Calls".... drop a 'Tower or a tract....and run.

Snakes (Rich )

What is the difference between the Titanic and the Watchtower Society? The Titanic sank faster, most of the people dressed better, and there were lifeboats available if you wanted off.