Posts by SnakesInTheTower

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JW Whips 12 year old daughter to death !! This is very graphic be warned!!

by Hairyhegoat in

this is a old case but just shows what goes on behind closed doors if you are a jw family.

this arsehole needs to go to the chair!!.

more news:.

SnakesInTheTower

As much as I loved my JW father, he definitely was into corporal punishment. He would beat me and my two brothers with a belt. As I got older and the belt did not seem to be doing the job, he reversed ends and used the buckle end. Now he would go to jail for child abuse. Then, if we tried to say we were "calling the child abuse hotline" he would pick up the phone and start dialing the actual number and tell us when he got out of jail he would give us more. We never called. If we tried to run (we had 9 acres), he said we had to come home sometime and it would be (and was) worse. Mom tried to run interference but got emotionally abused herself.

I only partly blame this on the religion. I blame part of it on the time he grew up (he was born in 1934) and his dad was tough.

Although he softened a bit as he got older, he still was abusive, physically and emotionally. Right before he went on vacation with my mom, he threw my teenage brother off the front steps (just a couple). Dislocated his shoulder. Dad died of congestive heart failure while in the bathroom overnight at his sister's house. Alone. Mom found him on the floor the next morning, dead. They had just argued right before bed about what dad did to my brother. (As a side note, this is why my fiancee and I never go to bed mad at each other nor do we leave each other for the day going to work or school mad .. we just never know. It is the only "rule" I insist on and it has kept us close so far).

I don't see what my dad did through rose colored glasses nor do I justify what he did. Karma bites you in the ass. The sad thing is there is no damn resurrection. He has been gone 16 years.

Rest in peace dad, I still love you.

Snakes (Rich )

26

Things we never told the public.....

by drewcoul in

i thought it would be interesting to discuss the things we believed as jw's, but were kind of embarassed about and didn't tell the public about, since it would make us look ridiculous.......... one thing i can think of is the idea that only jw's will make it through armageddon.

everyone else would be destroyed.

i would never tell anyone that even though we all believed it.

SnakesInTheTower

The great thing about field service is that it prepared me for my current job. I am a cable bill collector. Think about it the similarities.

• People do not want to see me coming up their sidewalk/pull in front of their house/into their driveway.

• People know what I am there for before I even knock/ring the bell.

• People sometimes hide behind the door and peek out the curtains and think I don't see/hear them.

• People answer the door and sometimes scream and yell obscenities at me or threaten me.

• People want me off their porch/out of their house as quickly as possible because they don't want their neighbors to see me talking to them.

The difference between field service and bill collections for the cable television company is:

• If they see me they know they better either give me money or give me equipment.

• If they hide, are rude, or scream at me, their cable goes off.

• If they get too out of hand, I call the cops, 'cause there are no angels standing invisibly on either side of me covering my sorry a$$.

• I don't have to waste a bunch of time explaining why the hell I am bothering them at 9:30 in the morning, I sure as hell am not a JW.

• Most importantly, and despite the economy, I get paid to do it.

Snakes (Rich

21

what are you doing for christmas?)

by SnakesInTheTower in

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i am baking right now.

this can be frustrating and satisfying at the same time.

for example, i have never made meringue cookies before.

SnakesInTheTower

zeroday:

Playing with my new 27 inch iMac Santy brought me...

sweeet ... a long way from the old Apple ][

factfinder:

absolutely nothing and feeling sad and left out.

I do remember being there and consider myself lucky to have my little family now. Not taking it for granted.

Thinking of you and others feeling left out.

(((waves to mouthy)))

SnakesFamily (Rich , Toni, and Hunter)

21

what are you doing for christmas?)

by SnakesInTheTower in

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i am baking right now.

this can be frustrating and satisfying at the same time.

for example, i have never made meringue cookies before.

SnakesInTheTower

I am baking right now. This can be frustrating and satisfying at the same time. For example, I have never made meringue cookies before. I loved them when I was a kid when my JW mom made them. Those cookies just melted in the mouth -- pure sugar high.

Why is it I cannot get egg whites to peak nicely? Did I not let the eggs come to room temp? Did I accidently get a wee bit of yolk in the whites, contaminating the whites with yolk, which adds unwanted protein to the mix? Did I over beat the eggs? Any and all of those things could have happened.

I think I salvaged them. I made chocolate coffee meringue cookies. Only made 16. The recipe says yield is 24. Yield never matches reality. I guess if I had gotten the mixture whipped up properly it would. Because of the extra sugar I put in, it flattened out more instead of the nice round ones in the picture. I dipped them in bittersweet chocolate and I just got them out of the fridge. We tried one. It wasn't the little round pieces of heaven, but they tasted good and still melt in the mouth. The other 15 are in their container for family christmas tomorrow night.

I just took out two raspberry chocolate cheesecakes out of the oven. Those are cooling now and I will make a chocolate sauce for those. I think I will freeze those when that is done. After they thaw a bit, they have the consistency of frozen yogurt.

Still have some fudge and some chocolate chip cookies to bake. Toni (my fiancee) and I are baking the cookies together. She "hates" me because my chocolate chip cookies are better than hers (all has to do with how it is mixed together, even with same ingredients).

Tomorrow we are taking the easy road and just putting a store bought ham in the oven, though I am making homemade mashed potatoes. I just thought about it, I will also have to make some gravy since I am not making any beef or pork. Sigh. At least it won't be at our house this year.

We have an Andy Williams Christmas DVD in the player that I bought Toni last year. The guy sings well but he is strange.

Anyway, it sure is nice not to have to worry about you know who (Grinch... aka WTBTS).

Merry Christmas everyone.

Snakes (Rich )

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Who Was Your Favorite Speaker?

by minimus in

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no brag, just fact---i was the most requested speaker in my hall(s), i was often requested to give talks in kh's all over the place, not just in my area.. i personally enjoyed speakers who taught you something, not merely recited something.

we had a district overseer, paul illingsworth, i loved his style.

he delved into bible words of the original greek and hebrew.

SnakesInTheTower

Min..:

We had a District Overseer, Paul Illingsworth, I loved his style. He delved into Bible words of the original Greek and Hebrew.

Paul was one of two instructors in my MTS (Ministerial Training School) class in the spring of 2002. (The other was Manera). I liked Paul Illingsworth a lot. Although 2002 and MTS was the beginning of the end for me, and it took another 5 years to leave the cult, I did enjoy his speaking and teaching style; although, as Blondie stated, even he could not make BS shine.

Somewhere I have a pic of him with reading Sports Illustrated, with his feet on the desk.

Snakes (Rich )

61

Would You Ever Go Back To The Kingdom Hall?

by minimus in

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ever?

?.

SnakesInTheTower

no... NO... NO ...NO... and no.

I passed a KH today on my work route, often pass it. Look at it bemusedly. See the dubs in FS at QT (local convenience store) but rarely actually knocking on a door. Have no desire to interact with them, even if I know them.

an elderly sister I pioneered with and was very close to died a couple of years ago. Some called her "Diamond Lil"... but even her funeral I would not go to.

My JW mom already said she does not want a funeral, JW or otherwise. If she did, I would not go. I would go to the gravesite and conduct my own service, sans dubs.

Ironically, last week my fiancee's coworker had a grandparent that died. I knew her one grandma was a JWm but did not put it together until right before we left for the funeral home. I went on the internet to look up the directions to the funeral home, found the grandfather's obit... I'll be damned... I knew him (Dennis), turns out, I knew tons of people and my fiancee only knew her co-worker. Ran into an elder in that same KH (Kevin), Ran into the same elder a few days at the cemetery he manages at a graveside service for one of my fiancee's best friend's mother..... My fiancee was not amused. LOL. damn witnesses everywhere... she wanted to tell the elder her fiancee is an apostate.

Snakes (Rich )

PS to flipper:

And secretly masturbate under my Bible while sitting in the corner to stave off boredom ?? Nah, no thanks. Can do that at home without the mind control . Peace out, Mr. Flipper

so you are saying you would be bored stiff?

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Merry Christmas To All

by mentallyfree31 in

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just wanted to say merry christmas to all of you.

i mentioned this before, but this is my first christmas since 1986, and i'm really looking forward to it.

i hope you all have a wonderful holiday, and a happy new year.

SnakesInTheTower

(((mouthy))) sorry you are spending the holidays alone (of human company).

Glad to see you still kicking around a bit.

Snakes (Rich )

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The two new members of the GB: Ekrann John & Robert Raines

by onemore in

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did anybody hear of this?

can this be confirmed?

do you know these guys?.

SnakesInTheTower

Was Raines in Brooklyn back in the 80s? If he is who I think he is, he was at Bossert. Home Department head I think. Maybe someone can let me know if I have the right guy. I was a temp in the mid 80s and if this is the same guy he was my table head.

weird memory, but except for that, I could not care less who is on the branch committee or the GB. LOL

Snakes (Rich )

31

At Bethel it was at times ordered that you MISS the meetings due to a hot job

by life is to short in

the poster ex dub ms reminded me of something i had forgotten.

at bethel especially in construction if there was a hot job going on or a deadline you missed meetings peroid!

no questions asked.. now if a rank and file husband who was working a low wage job to support his family or a single mom had to miss meetings due to a hot job at work what would happen to them?.

SnakesInTheTower

I observed this first hand when I was a temp at Wallkill and Brooklyn back in the 80s and 90s. I thought it was hypocritical but kept my mouth shut. Who was I but a Temp, I am only here 3-4 weeks? .... "Save a Bethelite, Kill a Temp" mentality then. This applied to FS and meetings.

It was also true for MTS (Ministerial Training School). When I attended MTS back in 2002, we were not expected to show up for the Congregation Book Study at our host or closest congregation, especially if we had a big assignment, talk, finals, etc. Hell, how could we, we had 5 or more hours of reading and assignments to complete? Some UltraSpiritual guys made all the meetings and FS. Blech.

During MTS, the TMS and SM in our 3 host congregations were moved to Friday night (often to the chagrin of the locals) so the MTS brothers could attend. (As a side note, my home congo was asked to host a Friday night meeting and the locals turned the MTS coordinators down flat, despite the fact that I and 2 other MTS students were being hosted by local families.) We were not to miss Friday night TMS, because we were held up as "special" and were to encourage the locals. Sometimes we did miss if we could if it was our turn for a talk on Saturday morning class (our Public Speaking class).

At MTS, field service was a joke (even though we had a "Field Service" unit [class]", but we had to get a few hours, because we received enough credit hours as pioneers..... oh, wait, I was the only student of 25 not a regular pioneer, I had come off temporarily... and by god the visiting GB member made sure to mention during graduation that that one student was not pioneering but was starting back in September (this was May)... without asking me first. So I had to make sure I hit national average at least (padded my hours). And yes, I started pioneering that September and it nearly killed me.

I think it was then, during MTS, that I seen how shallow the whole Organization was. It only took me another 5.5 years to quit FS and another 6 months to quit attending. Ironically, I transferred my publisher card to the congo that I attended during MTS 5 years earlier. Huge congo, easy to get lost in.

I look back and think ... what a joke it all was. What a Waste of Time. I don't come to JWD nearly as often as I used to, and post even less on JW type topics, but this one hit close to home. But I do not waste my time with regrets now. Now I celebrate the time I have with my new family.

Snakes (Rich )

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Merry Christmas To All

by mentallyfree31 in

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friends

just wanted to say merry christmas to all of you.

i mentioned this before, but this is my first christmas since 1986, and i'm really looking forward to it.

i hope you all have a wonderful holiday, and a happy new year.

SnakesInTheTower

MERRY CHRISTMAS TO EVERYONE...

Rich (Snakes ), Toni, and Hunter.

(pics taken last winter .. we used them for our X-mas cards this year)