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  J-dub elders throwing a wrench in funeral services for my nephew

  by mimimimi in

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  as i said in my earlier post, my nephew took his own life yesterday evening.

  my sister is a die-hard jw and this religion is her comfort more than ever right now, so she accepts everything they throw at her.

  the elders will meet this evening and decide whether they will allow a memorial service at the kh.

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  bump. Sadly, I was unable to attend the funeral this morning. I was working about 10 miles away in a nearby town.

  Wonder how it went and who showed and how DF folks were treated by the dubs.

  Snakes (Rich )
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  Elders Will Be Notified & WILL FIND YOU in the Hospital

  by Aude_Sapere in

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  don't wait.

  update your advance medical directives before you find yourself in my situation.... .

  my left arm was feeling 'odd' last friday morning as i was getting dressed for work.

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  Interesting bump. AS... Since you originally posted this, I left the JWs. Ironically, I was a member of a Patient Visitation Group (a sub group of the HLC) -- elders whose sole purpose was to visit JWs in assigned hospital(s). (Likely it was PVG NOT HLC that visited you back then). HLC for the region was only brought in for emergencies and preliminary issues to avoid problems) for 2 hospitals in my town. I never got a call from the hospital and I believe the other members of our group rarely did either. We usually found out from JW relatives. HIPAA is taken seriously around these parts. Unless a patient specifically requests a JW elder, the hospital pastor is the only one coming around for a spiritual visit.

  I no longer carry that ridiculous piece of JW paper (No Blood Card) in my wallet but have not replaced it. I will need to do that pronto. I know my non-JW fiancee will respect my change in thought, but she has no standing ahead of my JW mom if decisions are to be made until we get married. ... unless I get this in writing.

  Since my fiancee is a paralegal student, maybe I can have her draw up the paperwork or go online and download a new form.

  Thanks for the bump on this topic. Hope you are doing well now. Still have the cycle?

  Snakes (Rich )
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  One of my nephews passed away this evening

  by mimimimi in

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  2. bible

  he was 23 years old.

  he was depressed and took his own life.

  no one had any idea he was contemplating something like this.

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  Snoozy:

  Snakes and donuthole, is that for real? That's just sick if it is!

  absolutely. DH nailed the explanation. And it is sick.

  DH and I were eyewitnesses of this informal/unspoken code in that particular congo. We were both in the same congo as mimi's nephew before DH was DF and I was deleted as an elder and left. I don't think I am revealing anything that DH and I have not already revealed online here and elsewhere.

  At first, I was afraid that by bringing up the "A B C" thing, that I was derailing the thread. In reality, it likely, at least in part, goes to the heart of why mimi's nephew was depressed. He never really fit into the congo. He was quiet and often walked around the KH with his head held down. He did not look people in the eye often, at least in my interactions with him. However, I worked in FS with him and his brother and mother and grandmother regularly. I enjoyed his company and found him to be highly intelligent and a decent kid -- young man I should say. It was very difficult to get him to open up and talk. In my opinion, I think he got baptized to try to win the approval of his mother and the elders (including myself) and those around him. That is myopinion based on my observations. Maybe I am wrong. It has been 4 years since I seen him.

  Such a sad ending to a life that -- with proper nurturing and not JW "Encouragement™" -- who knows what great things this young man could have accomplished.

  Snakes (Rich )
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  One of my nephews passed away this evening

  by mimimimi in

  1. watchtower
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  he was 23 years old.

  he was depressed and took his own life.

  no one had any idea he was contemplating something like this.

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  mimi...

  I was shocked when you called me last night and told me what happened to your nephew. I am truly very sorry to hear this happened.

  Of course, I was an elder in his KH when he was younger. Sad to say, I "encouraged™" him toward baptism because of a conversation I had with him one summer at the DC. Shortly afterward, his mom (your sister) and grandma (your mom) came to me at the KH and told me how happy they were because of R making his decision to get baptized as a result of the DC and my "kind conversation" with him. In reality, he and his family were always on the C list (not even the A or B social lists) at the KH. That family was always marginalized and it made me sick as an elder to see it. His mom and grandma are still marginalized by the new regime of elders at that congo.

  Additional thread about this topic: http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/friends/204547/1/J-dub-elders-throwing-a-wrench-in-funeral-services-for-my-nephew

  Though of course suicide is horrible both for the victim and the family, I hope he now has the peace that he was never allowed in his family and at the congo and that I believe he so desperately sought. We will never truly know what was going through his mind in the moment he made the fatal decision. I hope this wakes up his mom and grandma.

  R was a fine young man and I was honored to have known him.

  Snakes (Rich )
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  Window Washers

  by dontplaceliterature in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  question:.

  why do i see so frequently the witnesses referred to as "window washers" on here?

  i have been a witness (though only recently "conscious") for my whole life.

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  I hope farkel changes his mind regarding posting the rest of his story. Based on his long posting history, I have the utmost respect for Farkel - though I have not had the privilege of meeting him personally or talking to him on the phone.

  I wish that the person(s) attacking farkel would go away. But I do not run this forum. I am a mere guest here. I wish the attackers would remember that they, too, are merely guests.

  Snakes (Rich .. of the "formerly a window washer" Sheep Class)
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  I'm going to end my "bible" study

  by KristiKay in

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  i posted a while back, i've been studying with a nice jehovas witness lady for probably about 6 months.

  after a few weeks i googled a few things (earthquakes, how long we've been on earth, ect.

  ) i realised she was very misinformed.

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  kristi

  welcome to the board. Of course, now that you are dumping the witnesses, you have no reason to be here. Kidding, of course.

  I was deep in the witnesses before I left 4 years ago. I come here now for the social interactions about non-dub things and only occasionally comment on JW things. So I hope you stay around and share your regular life.

  I keep in mind that my JW mom is deep into this cult. She lives in the south now (Alabama) and, now that she is retired, goes door-to-door constantly, much to the dismay of her non-JW husband (my stepdad). For my mom, she believes the Witnesses to be "The Truth™" even with her doubts about the Organization itself. She keeps "Waiting on Jehovah®" (a phrase the JWs like to toss around when they can't explain bad behavior within their ranks) to fix the problems within the cult. She has "Bible" studies with people like yourself. For many of them, it is a social call, especially the elderly women she studies with -- my mom is a breath of fresh air and is truly kind and thinks she is doing what is right. But these people (her "return visits" and "Bible Studies") are never going to become Witnesses.

  So just be nice to your JW visitor. I am sure you will. She could be my mom. They are someone's mom.

  Snakes (Rich )

  ps.... shred the literature and recycle it -- don't throw it away. Landfills are full enough as it is. lol

  pss... ignore OBVES -- they provide comic relief (**insert gag smiley**).... I like your response to him/her -- weird that poster is popping up again.
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  Officially banned at JWS, a big laugh!

  by JRK in

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  just ask me in pm's the details!

  the fat arse can't take the heat, or any measure of exercise.

  i wish amama2six still owned that board.

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  JK.... welcome back....

  I wish amama2six still owned that board.

  what is happening over there? A26 and MM don't own the board anymore? I rarely post or read there anymore so I am out of the loop -- much like how much I keep up with the j'dubs. If it doesn't get posted here, I don't hear. PM if posting it here would cause issues.

  Snakes (Rich )
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  Repost: My Two Week Consulting Trip to Bethel

  by Hunyadi in

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  2. scandals

  since half of them ended up at my house on friday and saturday nights i was given a very shining report card.

  he then told me that he would knock on my door bright and early in the morning to take me to breakfast with him and his wife.

  a couple of them told they enjoy the articles i write in the art magazines and they were really happy to meet me.

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  marking for later .. I think I started to read this before. so far interesting and not surprising. When I temped at bethel in 80s (brooklyn) and 90s (wallkill) I seen some crazy $hit. Nothing like this though.

  Snakes (Rich )
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  Some observations from the KM Elder School I wanted to share with you.

  by miseryloveselders in

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  2. friends

  my school was a couple weeks back, and it was interesting to a degree.

  to be honest with you, it reminded me of a police crime scene investigation with yellow tape.

  what i mean is, in one respect it was business as usual.

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  Nothing new under the sun... **Gag**

  Snakes (Rich )

  ps... to oppostate:

  School at Holyoke Kingdom Hall in Mass

  interesting... we will be in Holyoke this May for my fiancee for her daughter's graduation. Never been to Mass. before. We might fly into Providence since I have a HS friend in New Bedford. Any suggestions for hotels in the area?
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  WT Society's Paranoia Over Spiral Binding of Elder's Textbook - Crazy

  by flipper in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  this letter was sent as an addendum to the elders regarding their latest elders textbook.

  i think you'll find this interesting and also disconcerting as well.. to all bodies of elders.

  re: spiral binding of shepherding textbook.

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  flipper...

  when I read this subject line, I thought for certain the WTBTS fools were going to ban the rebinding. I mean, an elder couldn't hide the fact that he had this done. Maybe a bunch of them did (I am presuming that these are softcover not hardcover) and that the books are going to fall apart quickly. First time an elder shows up at a meeting with it rebound, all the elders and the CO knows.

  Know my next thought about this letter? I no longer care. Progress. Very little in WTLand matters to me and what little does is only because of my JW mom. Even that is a mere blip on my life radar.

  Snakes (Rich )

  p.s. Happy New Year to you and Mrs. Flipper. Long time no talk to.