Posts by SnakesInTheTower

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What is happening in India?

by Vanderhoven7 in

i read a thread recently that spoke of the wt ceasing to print watchtower and awake mags in india.

does anyone know if there is any substance/documentation to that claim?

SnakesInTheTower

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/6023413583839232/no-more-printing-wt-awake-my-country-shit-just-got-real?page=1&size=20

I would not be surprised. I was supposed to be engaged to a sister in India back in 06. Then about 50k jw in india. I personally spoke to Service Dept. In India by phone. Things have never been quite up to GB NY standards. Congos are little fiefdoms. JC about to get you? Nothing a bribe of cash and alcohol can't fix.

Thankfully the engagement ended in 06 when I visited, my time as an elder ended when I got back, and my time as a JW ended a few months later.

Good riddance to all WT printing or digital EVERYWHERE.

Snakes

19

Please i need guidance

by alex_Am in

i know im young.

i know i still have so much to learn i mean im only 14 but but even at a young age i have learned and i know what love is.

this is where the problem comes in.

SnakesInTheTower

Not to put a too sharp a point on it, but in the minds of the Witnesses, YOU are a "worldly person", i.e., an undesirable in their world if you don't convert to JW.

On the other hand, the girl you are "dating" would not be considered a "strong" Witness if she is dating, a) at all at a young age, b) dating a "worldly" person.

Good that are you are thinking things through. We might have good intentions giving you advice, but we are strangers.

So, my advice to you comes from TWO poinnts of view: I am the father of a 14 year,old son AND I am a former elder in the Witnesses and left the cult. MY ADVICE ...kindly, gently, stop dating her. You are too young, and the cult is dangerous. Be friendly, but put some distance emotionally between you. Cool down.

If in a few years she leaves the cult ON HER OWN NOT FOR YOU and you reconnect later in life, that would be great...but don't hold your breath.

I wish you well young man.

Snakes (Rich)

113

I just found out that my youngest brother committed suicide

by SnakesInTheTower in

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friends

my middle brother called me a couple of hours ago.

our youngest brother, josh, who was 38, was found by his friends in his apartment.

he hung himself.

SnakesInTheTower

probably going to take a week off work for bereavement.... hell the company offers 5 days for close relatives and I hate going to work for many reasons these days. wasn't going to, but so much BS going on there, ...probably wait until next week when my mom comes through town on her way back from iowa.

not sure where my grieving process is at... people at work know because a) I posted it on FB ... because I got tired of being asked a bunch of questions so i just posted it... and b) it's just a weird topic and no one knows what to say to the family left behind. Also, I told my boss I didnt want to hear any more drama... no time for it... lol

Snakes

ps... is that just a weird random post..... my brain ain't working right.

113

I just found out that my youngest brother committed suicide

by SnakesInTheTower in

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friends

my middle brother called me a couple of hours ago.

our youngest brother, josh, who was 38, was found by his friends in his apartment.

he hung himself.

SnakesInTheTower

I am so tired emotionally. My middle brother (not JW) and mom have taken over ...my mom made stupid decisions that cost her more money than needed when dad died 20 years ago, and I'm afraid she is doing so now. she (age 72) and my stepdad are going to drive 2 days from Alabama to Iowa to "take care of things", way too much rushing. No talking to me about any of it unless I ask first.

My JW mom thinks Josh is asleep awaiting resurrection. **eye roll**

His friends, without asking the family, have started a large gofundme account already at $1500 of $2K for a tree planting and plaque in a favorite park. They planned a gathering next Sunday, a 5 hour drive each wsy...just after getting back from this trip 13 hours each way. I don't think I can get in the middle of it.

What I want to do is just get back home and sleep. Not be bothered with anyone.

I realize from all of the posts on FB that I did not know my brother any more. The only tears I have shed are from reading your posts here, FB, and another forum. The outpouring of kindness is unexpected but it helps.

Anyway, I will check back soon.

Thanks again

Snakes (Rich)

113

I just found out that my youngest brother committed suicide

by SnakesInTheTower in

jw
friends

my middle brother called me a couple of hours ago.

our youngest brother, josh, who was 38, was found by his friends in his apartment.

he hung himself.

SnakesInTheTower

I am overwhelmed by the responses.... I started to cry... just a bit. I speed read through all the pages so far, but I will go back and read carefully everyone's post again... I just couldn't keep reading.....

but you have no idea how much these posts mean to me. Some of you know me personally and we have interacted in real life. Some here are screen names showing real human beings behind them just by taking a moment to post something...... something I never got while in the cult.... real humans -- real feelings.

Thank you so much

Snakes (rich)

113

I just found out that my youngest brother committed suicide

by SnakesInTheTower in

jw
friends

my middle brother called me a couple of hours ago.

our youngest brother, josh, who was 38, was found by his friends in his apartment.

he hung himself.

SnakesInTheTower

My middle brother called me a couple of hours ago. Our youngest brother, Josh, who was 38, was found by his friends in his apartment. He hung himself. I confirmed it with local law enforcement in his town.

Shouldn't I be crying? Not sure how to process.

Not even sure why I feel the need to post this.

Snakes (Rich)

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Correlation decline JW numbers and JW broadcasting?

by Gorbatchov in

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i read some impressive figures here about the decline of the jw numbers in 2015.. could there be a correlation between this decline and the start of jw broadcasting?.

hence, that there would be an negative impact because the gb is standing so nearby, you can experience the idiot reasoning of their doctrines sitting in your own living room?.

the lett effect?

SnakesInTheTower

I cannot bring myself to watch JW Broadcasting. I met Lett in person when he spoke to our MTS class (62nd US class, May 2002, St. Louis, MO). That guy is more ridiculous in person than on the broadcast. Real fu$king moron.

And that rubber face speaking directly at ME from the platform during graduation announcing that the class was made up of 24 regular pioneers and 1 starting back up in September....clapclapclap... uh wait, did anyone ask the ONE....ME...whether I WANTED or was ABLE? No. The rest of that story I have told elsewhere on this board.

Since that day....I have Fu$king DESPISED STEVEN LETT! Screw him and the whole WT...I hope the whole compound in upstate NY becomes a toxic waste dump. Decline? How about ZERO.

Snakes

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No Kingdom Halls would definitely work!

by John Aquila in

last night we were invited to a get-together with quite a few heavies attendingelders and regular pioneers.

there was beer and later some music.

everyone got relaxed and let down their guard and starting talking all kinds of non-theocratic stuff that you only discuss after a few beers.

SnakesInTheTower

I had a public talk I used to give as an elder, don't remember the topic, but I admitted, from the platform, hating FS, and I was a regular pioneer, elder, MTS grad...LOL.

Always generated alot of honest conversation at lunch with the group afterwards. I even said $hit like that on away talks...fun to watch elders eyes bug out...though if I liked the PO, I might, MIGHT, give him a heads up. I gave a lot of away talks, oddly I was asked back, despite the off outline editorials....

So, I believe the OP's story....it happens.

Snakes

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Too Funny Prank

by berrygerry in

from a redditor - would have died to have been there.

https://www.reddit.com/r/exjw/comments/3sukbu/our_congregation_happens_to_have_a_networked/.

SnakesInTheTower

LMAO. My mom loved that song, always liked it when I chose that song as a public speaker. She would have freaked out at 1:08 mark.

I wonder just how dumb these people are leaving an unprotected opening in their system.

Snakes

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No more printing of WT and Awake in my country.. Shit just got real

by cognitivedizzy in

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guys .

a letter was just read in out kh stating that all printing of wt and awake is ceased for the coming year and we will just place tracts on fs, countries which were cared by our branch will be cared by other countries...along with this they read the new fs form and stuff about reporting links of videos wtf..lol.

i can't tell which country perhaps that will give away a lot, any one with a similar information.

SnakesInTheTower

I almost married a sister from India. I met her family here in the US. They introduced us and we online dated for 9 months, We flew over for me to meet in person, and it ended the day I landed in India. Leading up to this, I had opportunity to call the India Branch ServiceDesk to do some background on her. The brother said that things there were "very different" than the way things were done under the US branch. Lots of underhanded things in the congos, like bribes to elders to ignore JC...lol.

Point is, India has always been on the margins as far as WTBTS Corp is concerned.

Snakes