Confidentiality among elders?
There are three forms of communication among Witnesses:
Telephone, telegraph, and tell-an-elder.
After that, it's Tell-an-elder's-wife.
Snakes
the montana case enters the home stretch.
the state supreme court will hear oral arguments tomorrow, 13 september, at the northern hotel in billings during the state bar of montana’s annual meeting (announcement 1, announcement 2).
an introduction to the argument will begin at 9:30 a.m., with the argument starting at 10 a.m. (4 p.m. utc, 9 a.m. sf time, 12 a.m. ny time, 5 p.m. london time, 2 a.m. saturday sydney time).
Confidentiality among elders?
There are three forms of communication among Witnesses:
Telephone, telegraph, and tell-an-elder.
After that, it's Tell-an-elder's-wife.
Snakes
i'm a postman so i get 4 to 5 hours every day with my headphones on and i'm really chewing through some stuff.
i'm after science (evolutionary biology and anthropology especially), history of religion and comedy.
old sci-fi audio books are also a favourite.
I really enjoy Snap Judgement, an hour long weekly broadcast from NPR. Some of those episodes make me laugh, some get me riled up at injustice. You never know what you will get.
Other favorites, all NPR or other Public Radio favorites:
Radiolab, This American Life, Fresh Air with Terry Gross
Snakes
i took my wife to the airport today to pick up a 'delegate' from the us.
on the way, she was almost crying with joy when she read that jw's will have free public transportation if they wear their lapel badge and have matching id.
jah provides!
Dozy...
There were a lot of requirements and restrictions - even down to having to wear meeting attire a lot of the time ( including on the flight).
When I went to Hamburg, Germany in summer 2006, it was everything you mentioned. It was overpriced, rushed, and the attire thing. I got chewed out by the "Team Captain", because I was an elder, MTS grad and "Assistant Team Captain" for the tour group (or some such nonsense JW title), and I was NOT wearing a jacket or tie, AND I was wearing walking shoes (aka sneakers). International flight in meeting clothes? Uh, no. I wanted to be comfortable.
I ended up missing almost a whole day of "on my own" sightseeing in London because I had huge blisters and could barely walk....in dress shoes. Never again.
Snakes
just got a phone call this morning from a very upset anointed brother.
he said he didn't believe me when i told him about the pedo problem and selling off of halls.
he said he was disgusted with the watchtower and had to go to a special meeting last night.
Lhg..... remember THIS:
1975
People DID sell houses and business thinking the end would come.
OR
People BOUGHT houses and cars thinking the end would come and they would not have to pay them off.
I was only 9, and my folks had only been dubs 5 years. I remember older ones telling me these stories.
Either way, "There is a sucker born every minute."
Snakes
if you go to jw.org, you can download the program for 2019 convention.. what i notice is that nowadays there is no meeting for ones wishing to serve at bethel or for those interested in gilead missionary school.
rather, there is just a meeting for those interested in 'the school for kingdom evangelizers'.. two things strike me about this.
first, although there was once a big play on bethel and gilead being held out as career options, this is now just about dead and buried.
I got sucked into MTS (the now defunct 8 week Ministerial Training School, part of WT School of Gilead, apparently also defunct). 62nd US Class, 2002.
Left very disillusioned but determined to make it work. Too many years invested.
3 weeks out, WT tries to send me to Middle-of-Nowhere, Kansas. The locals did not want me or my classmate (who DID go). Made NO effort to help us find housing, or a job. They ran off a previous graduate.
I declined, had knee surgery, kept my full time job, restarted pioneering. (Thanks in no small part to Steve "Rubber face" Lett). But WT sent me 75 miles from home to Not-Much-Work, Illinois. Me and TWO other grads from our class. This congo was THAT fu&ked up.
I did that 150 mile round trip 3 times a week. Sunday, Thursday, and Saturday for 4 months. Did Tuesday and some FS close to home and worked FT... back home. NO support from Crooklyn. Got sick, lost 25 pounds, got down to 115 pounds. Doc checked for cancer....nope...stress. Told me to quit the commute. I did. Got kicked out of the MTS program. Took 10 months of fighting to get reappointed as an elder to where I ended up close to home.
Fast forward 5 years. Former elder, pioneer, MTS grad. Walked away, never to return. Forward 12 more. Never set foot there again. Why? Because they LIED to me all those years, told me at those conventions to make FT service my life. You know who encouraged me to keep applying for MTS at those CONventions?
Samuel "Turd" Herd.
I pray to the Flying Spaghetti Monster I never see that fu#ker again.
Snakes
2019-07-09-new features on jw.org.
https://docdro.id/zrl1ojx.
instructions for congregation secretary.
So I guess you could leave the congregation and a few months later send a "death certificate" to your old congregation with a fake lawyer letterhead. Saying Joe Person (I mean Joe Publisher) is deceased and to update records.
Boom, no more being bothered. Just stay out of sight. LOL
Snakes
i was just wondering if there is any official rules on dealing with this.
a sister in the congregation is planning to divorce her husband who is also a witness so she can marry a different brother in the same hall!
yes this is a huge scandal!
Carlyle, IL. Big scandal. Elder and pioneer sister did the deed IN THE KH. Known throughout the circuit.
Wouldn't want to clean the carpet THAT weekend...just saying.
They married, got reinstated, rubbed it in everyones face as if no big deal.
No idea what ever happened to them. I was only there a few months as an MTS grad back in 02.
Snakes
is there anything that will make that loyal witness ever see the light??
you know, that well respected elder, pioneer, or witness who has been in the “truth “ for decades..
I had crap happen in 1991, should have left then. Worked my way back up the ladder. 95 REALLY bothered me. Should have left. Stayed, kept climbing the ladder, became an elder. Went to MTS in 2002, seen some disturbing behavior, should have left, kept on. In 06, I could have fought being deleted as an elder and won. Instead, I quit fighting and let them.
Changed congos in 07, faded, should have left then.. Oh, wait, I DID. NEVER went back.
Snakes
so how many of us who conducted the b school have the reoccurring flashbacks every damn time we now pomo, put our hand on blinds to raise or lower them?.
we either fiddled with lowering them every week as we got the school underway or fiddled with to raise them to "listen in to the #3 in progress" up front.
every time i grab the pull string or the louver adjustment wand anywhere i inevitably have a kh ops moment of pause.
Lol.
I remember having a B school fore the sole purpose of some little boy doing a bible reading, then doing just what you said. Or....we timed it with the main school to send everyone back to the main auditorium and out of the cramped B school. Stupid.
Snakes
if we haven’t associated with the congregation in years, could it be said we are not jws?
or must you be disfellowshipped or disassociated to officially say you really aren’t a witness?.
I walked away in 2007. Never DF, DA, ABCDE....whatever. I DID make it clear to the local PO, that if my name were ever mentioned from the platform, or that my name was being drug through the mud "unofficially," that don't worry about being sued. When I was done dragging JW's through the mud, it would just make it impossible for them to accomplish their ministry in their area.
They haven't bothered me since --"officially" or otherwise.
$hit don't stink unless you stir it.
Snakes (Rich)