Posts by SnakesInTheTower

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The DVD published last year is excellent, IMO

by possible-san in

the dvd published last year is excellent.

(the wonder of creation reveal god's glory).

but, in youtube, the dvd last year was entirely deleted by the watch tower society.. i wanna watch the new dvd.. http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=62903523.

SnakesInTheTower

I was checking to see if this was in "Jokes and Humor" section....apparently not.

Snakes (Rich )

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Watchtower & Awake subscriptions?

by Think About It in

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friends

seems like i read here that wt & a subscriptions were done away with.

is that correct, and if so when and why?

i can only imagine it would be a cost savings reason.

That changed a long time ago not long after the "donation arrangement"™ was implemented. The publishers™ would still have a standing order at the magazine counter, but would include their personal copy with their service copies. Any remaining subscriptions were allowed to run their course. At the time I had a First Class mailing subscription that allowed me to get my personal copy of the WT several weeks ahead of the congo. I missed it then when it ran out.

More recently, in the last month or so (I think the letter was 4/19/10) the whole arrangement was done away with and now the congregation has a standing order and the R&F just picks up the copies they need for the day/week from the magazine counter. I am sure the kool-aid edition of the WT (the "Study article" edition) is probably still ordered specifically...dunno.

I am sooooo glad I dont deal with that anymore.

Snakes (Rich)

ps...(edited to add... first class came in white wrappers... regular subscriptions came in brown..and I thought about that too with the mailman wondering.... I knew a couple of them that read them on their lunch and then put the mag back in the wrapper...did the same with porn from their customers....LOL)

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JWs District Convention 2010 Drawn Closer to Jehovah. My reflections

by onemore in

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september will mark my first year out of the watch towers darkness (pun intended).

i embarked on my full blown search for truth about the truth in april 2009, and by september of that same year i was convinced the organization was no different than any other religion; but i was wrong again.

because if there were like any other christian denomination, such as the baptists, methodists, presbyterians, lutherans, etc...it would have been a lot easier to endure sitting in their meetings, listening to their rhetoric, and engaging in some of their activities.

SnakesInTheTower

They tempo of the tune has changed, maybe the lyrics are a bit different... but it is the same song and dance since 1879.

And the average R&F dub has no clue. Most witnesses do very little actual studying beyond the yellow highlighter and maybe looking up (or printing out from the CD) scriptures...and that only from the WT's own NWT.

I used to study chronology as it related to the bible. Unfortunately for WTB&TS, et. al., I used secular sources from the library. As early as 1991 I was having trouble digesting the WT version. I once even said to another dub: "If the Society does not make an adjustment soon, they will be caught with their pants down." A nearby elderette, not involved in the conversation, involved herself and asked "Are you the FDS providing food at the proper time? We wait on Jehovah." My words back to her were basically that it was pure logic and math that made me say it. And I dropped it.

By the time I went through MTS in 2002 and went through major sections of WT teachings on chronology, I knew I had been right and didnt know my way out. It only took another 5 years for me to leave. I went back and checked my postings here... 2007 was the last DC....so this will be the third year not going...and thank goodness for that. I dont think I could keep myself from laughing.

I only wonder what my JW mother thinks about all of this doctrinal changes. She was one who claimed to study...but really only studied WT literature...a rather biased source of course. sigh.

Snakes (Rich )

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If You Still "Had" To Go To Meetings What "Disrespectful" Things Might You Do?

by minimus in

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i know some who go to meetings because they feel they have to because of family or other considerations.. imagine going to a meeting and having your iphone with you!.

how would it look if you had a watchtower in your hands along with a tv guide?.

think about going to a meeting with strong booze breath.. any other suggestions?

SnakesInTheTower

lmao at minimus ...

alt

Snakes (Rich )

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If You Still "Had" To Go To Meetings What "Disrespectful" Things Might You Do?

by minimus in

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friends

i know some who go to meetings because they feel they have to because of family or other considerations.. imagine going to a meeting and having your iphone with you!.

how would it look if you had a watchtower in your hands along with a tv guide?.

think about going to a meeting with strong booze breath.. any other suggestions?

SnakesInTheTower

minimus:

silently let gas out

SBD's (Silent But Deadly) farts were the best when a brother was the microphone attendant. I used to pass by the elder on the aisle that I couldn't stand and make sure to let loose an SBD as I walked by to get the mic to someone commenting. On the way back up the aisle, you could tell he was smelling it....and I made sure to look at him directly and then up at others around him with that look that says "I know what he did...you smell it."

And smile.

(yes, it was immature; no I did not ...and do not....care).

Snakes (Rich..."of the bad [former] elder " Sheep Class)

PS.......yes Jack, that was me you f*c*ing gas bag. Hope you enjoyed my contribution to your breathing.

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This Video clip was funny about the WTS flip flops on the people of Sodom.

by Think About It in

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any new "new light" on the people of sodom not coming back?

what other wacky religion would spend so much time comtemplating, thinking upon and flip flopping on this shit?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0sdh239aii.

SnakesInTheTower

I called a JW friend yesterday to thank him and his wife for the card and bottle of wine they left in my door (for my college graduation). They had missed us at home several times in the weeks since the commencement.

During the conversation, he mentioned something that led to a JW-related topic. I told him that "Jehovah", being the Creator, knows exactly how to give the Truth® correctly the first time. There is no need for "New Light"... or the "light getting brighter and brighter." I told him that argument is what imperfect men who want to control thinking do to justify their errors. He, being a college grad himself, could not argue that but wouldn't pursue it much past that.

I told him a perfect example is this coming Sunday's Watchtower study....since he and his wife are not consistent attenders and are inactive...I thought it was important to give him a heads up on this important change....**gag**

Snakes (Rich )

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If You Still "Had" To Go To Meetings What "Disrespectful" Things Might You Do?

by minimus in

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friends

i know some who go to meetings because they feel they have to because of family or other considerations.. imagine going to a meeting and having your iphone with you!.

how would it look if you had a watchtower in your hands along with a tv guide?.

think about going to a meeting with strong booze breath.. any other suggestions?

SnakesInTheTower

I used to drink coffee from my travel mug during the meeting for field service at the KH......

.....while I was the elder conducting.

Snakes (Rich )

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Who Are Your Past Circuit Overseers? It's a small world..

by mentallyfree31 in

who were your past circuit overseers?

i'm sure a lot of us actually know mutual people, as the co's relocate all over the country.. here's a few from the southeast us: (let me know if you recognize any names and post yours too please...).

ellwood johnson (new york/philadelphia area for several years also).

SnakesInTheTower

Andy Cole was full of himself. He got DF reportedly for going after a bible study...LOL. I heard he is now reinstated but, obviously, no longer a PO. I think he attended MTS in St. Louis (not in my class, prior class).

Illingsworth... he was one of my MTS instructors (somewhere I have a pic of him with his feet up on his desk reading SportsIllustrated. (Manera was the other instructor... he wore old out dated suits but had the gall on the last day of class to counsel me on the threadbare nature of mine...hell, I was wearing the same 3 suits 6 days a week for 8 weeks..what did he expect)> Illingsworth was good to me.

Hardesty.... responsible for pressuring the local BOE in Alton, IL to remove me as a MS and Regular Pioneer. He later apologized when he was wrong about me...but refused to get the decision reversed.

Mel Branam... was one of 2 CO's in the country that had a coach bus as their mobile home.... was one of the two instructors in my pioneer school in Springfield, IL back around 1987. I talked to him and his wife at a DC in Kansas a few years ago...he retired (went off the road) as a CO....reports of the stoke were mistaken... stress was causing his troubles...which disappeared when he quit CO. One of the few CO's that I loved as a human being.

Michael Emilio....single Italian CO...was in the first class of MTS (he is in a pic in the Proclaimers book). I got along with him fine and he was likely responsible for breaking the log jam on my MTS application. (local secretary was blocking it with a bad grade on the ap). He served the English circuit in IL 6 before moving on to Italian circuits up the east coast.

Les Bailey...we got along great...but he did not do anything about the problems in the congos...talked a good game.....he went out to Colorado...then got sick or had a heart attack.... heard he was in CA now... not sure if still in circuit work.

Dan Walke....ditto

Bob Hartman.....single CO in Alaska... DO in the states quite a few years later (around 84...I remember because he gave me a HS graduation card).... he used to come to our house on his Mondays off and hang out.

Harley Breneman.... didnt know him well...but a pioneer sister in our congo was sweet on him.

who was the CO that was selling phone service (ACN) that got booted? (I am too lazy to look up my prior posts...good sign that I am forgetting these names)

I will think of more I am sure...

Snakes (Rich )

edited to add...I forgot about Goff...he encouraged me to go to MTS...and Koinjevich (sp?) got tired of seeing me as the only on showing up at the MTS meeting at CAs....

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Why should I have to sign a letter saying I want to disassociate ?

by troubled mind in

i don't understand why the elders want this letter so badly ....for one i don't remember signing a contract to become a jehovah's witness ,why do i need to resign ?.

also i was baptised in 1978 before the baptism questions changed , i dedicated myself to god not an organization .

my vow was to follow the direction by holy spirit as revealed to me through the bible, not the watchtower ...... if i belonged to the luthern church and quit going after three yrs they drop your name off the member list ........but if i chose to come to easter or christmas service everyonre would still talk to me i just wouldn't be a member any more .. .

SnakesInTheTower

TM...

very sad that those bozos are still bothering you. I wish I were a little closer I would love to talk with you and your hubby. The closest I will be is Bloomington (if all goes as planned) this Sunday. You mentioned "D. Smith" in your post of the letter.... I know I met some of the Geneseo elders at quick builds over the years.

Do you have *58 for your phone? It is "Call Trace". Here is the description from my AT&T services book....

This feature traces an annoying call immediately after it comes in.

1. Hang up after receiving a bothersome call.

2. Wait ten seconds.

3. Pick up the phone and listen for a dial tone.

4. Press *57 and you'll hear a) instructions and a number to call if you want to take legal action. b) If the number can't be traced, you'll hear an error message.

Also get Privacy Manager. Also use Call Screening (*60). With CS you dont even need to know who is calling.. my plan allows up to 10 numbers to be blocked....B L O C K E D ... block the blockheads.

Technology is beautiful (also frustrating for those of us in the collections business....LOL)

Snakes (Rich )

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As a JW, Did You Skip Houses You Knew Were Not Interested?

by mentallyfree31 in

i have to confess: in my last 3 - 5 years in field circus, i basically only went to neighborhoods that were extrememly poor and thus i knew they would be favorable to the message.

i always had my own territory checked out, and even if an elder suggested i join another group in working another territory, i always had plenty of reasons why i needed to work mine.

(bible study or rv that i had to make at 11 am, etc...blah blah blah..lol).

SnakesInTheTower

i was thorough for years, esp as territory servant ....

.... then I got jaded....and pulled many of the same stunts...also the fake/light knock...fake doorbell ring....hit and run...... making sure that I had an odd number group..me and 4 sisters...then did the "brotherly" thing and "offered" to work alone so the 4 sisters could pair up...then did the curly shuffle...dilly dally, look at the flowers, pet the dogs and cats, talk to people about their gardens and generally let the sisters do the majority of the work...

.... often I would work a few doors...then if it was cold/hot/rainy/snowy/windy/humid/bad dog/bad people/gang violence {j/k}...I would "offer" to get the car so they wouldnt have to walk so far/be exposed to the elements/warm up/cool down/avoid bad dogs/people/gangs.... often keeping the car running so the heat/air conditioning would be on....

I was popular in many circles because I did not push the sisters... I was soooo thoughtful of their needs...lol...if they only knew I was looking out for me and they happened to benefit. though I did really care about the elderly and sickly esp... and really was trying to make the field circus easier...

so stupid in retrospect of course...so pointless.... can you imagine (presuming he existed) Jesus worrying about keeping track of time/return visits/bible studies/magazine/literature placements?

I hated field service...and admitted it from the platform during public talks..... much to the amazement of the audience and shock of elders in congregations I visited...lol...guess that is why I was perceived, correctly, as not conforming very well. I did not play well with others in the sandbox.

Snakes (Rich )