haven't figured out twitter yet but I am following your twitter feeds online purps.
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@snakesinthetowr
Snakes (Rich )
i just checked twitter and the story is picking up tremendously there.. many people only get their news from twitter now.. i encourage you to use twitter, you can do this anonymously.. rt (return the stories) get familiar with twitter if you are not already.. it's a wonderful format for spreading the news.. many activist will see this and spread the story that have many followers.... the time to do this is now, before the story gets too old.
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haven't figured out twitter yet but I am following your twitter feeds online purps.
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Snakes (Rich )
Why hasn't CNN picked up on this? http://www.cnn.com/feedback/tips/ I emailed them, who knows if anything will happen. I toured CNN headquarters in Atlanta. That is a huge operation. Unless they get a whole lot of feedback from viewers requesting this story be covered, nothing will happen. You should see all of the desks and levels of people that a news tip has to go through and be vetted before it is kicked up to a senior story producer for possible airing.
As to hearing about anything in field service, I agree with Blondie, As a regular pioneer during some of that time, I rarely heard anything about the Dateline program. MSNBC has the story but was it aired or just online?
Snakes (Rich )
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http://richarddawkins.net/articles/646267-jehovah-s-witnesses-told-to-pay-in-abuse-case.
Why has CNN not picked up this story? I sent them an email via this link: http://www.cnn.com/feedback/tips/
This needs better coverage than MSnbc and Dawkins Foundation.
Snakes (Rich )
members of the governing body.
members of the legal department.
no doubt many of you are truly, to borrow the term of r.v.
Wouldn't that be nice if someone would from Legal or the GB would do it? However, look what happened to Ray Franz and Barbara Anderson when they stood up for what was right? The Ex-Witness community noticed but were demonized by the JW as apostates. I cannot tell you how many times growing up, then as a young adult, then as an elder, what a horrible person Ray was. I think that I had left the Borg before hearing anything about Barb from fellow Witnesses.
So even if that scenario played out, it would be ignored by people like my JW mom.
Snakes (Rich )
hi guys and gals,.
as it's been a good 3 years since i visited a kingdom hall, i was wondering if the keeping of hours still applies?
therefore, does anyone have a pdf of the report slip?.
jane doe vs the watch tower in the oakland, ca case was awarded $20 million in punitive damages..
Good. I hope this is the beginning of the end for Watchtower et al. I wonder if my JW mother will get wind of this and/or will ever change her mind about the Organization.
As a former JW elder, I am glad that I was never faced with having a pedophile (to my knowledge) in any congregation where I was assigned. That said, there should be a lot of current, and maybe former, elders who will $hit their pants if individual elders are assigned even a dime of the judgment against them personally.
A good day for the ex-JW community, and even better day for the victims of the pedophiles. Let it rain down on the Watchtower leaders' collective heads. BASTARDS. I HOPE THE GOVERNING BODY ROTS IN HELL.
Rich (SnakesInTheTower ... of the "hardly ever posts anymore" Sheep Class)
hello friends!
i apologize for bothering you during your new years recovery, but i again need your votes to carry my jw based novel "happiness: how to find it!
" forward in curiosity quills nano-virtuosos competition.
DH....
I followed the link from FB and ... knowing how twisted you can be ... I really want to read the rest. Unfortunately your polling is running behind - I hope the specialized (JW) nature of this novel doesn't kill it.
Let's bump this one. Final round voting started yesterday (Monday, Jan. 16, 2012). Round three voting link here.
Good luck Anthony.
Snakes (Rich )
wellington's blanket man, ben hana, died suddenly yesterday, his final act in public being to wave to passers-by from the footpath outside wellington hospital.
ben was the black sheep of a strick jehovah's witness mother.. may he rest in peace.
wellington's blanket man 'lived life his way'.
WEIRD about the mother being a witness. As to Blanket Man ... Mental illness is a sad sad thing.
Snakes (Rich )
it has been over a month and a half since i have even been on the board, and that really only to ask about gps units (got a tom-tom) and mention the new job.
way too busy with life - post jw now 4 years.. of course, the new job has benefits, health insurance, etc.
(including unlimited use of the company car for personal use and the company pays for the unlimited gas for about a $25/week out of my check -- huge benefit) and this has enabled toni and i to finally after a two year engagement, to get married.
It has been over a month and a half since I have even been on the board, and that really only to ask about GPS units (got a Tom-Tom) and mention the new job. Way too busy with life - post JW now 4 years.
Of course, the new job has benefits, health insurance, etc. (including unlimited use of the company car for personal use and the company pays for the unlimited gas for about a $25/week out of my check -- huge benefit) and this has enabled Toni and I to finally after a two year engagement, to get married. We got hitched July 27. Outside under a nice gazebo sounded like a good idea when we rented it -- the day of the heat index was 109 and close to 100 F at 10:30 in the morning when the ceremony happened. Had about 25 people, mostly her family, but my best man was a fringe JW and the officiant is a close friend who is a non-denominational preacher - and yes, he used scriptures. lol. My JW mom did not have a problem with that - so she said.
After a fast BBQ picnic reception, we were out of there by noon because it was so damn hot. Toni had college class that evening, so no rest for the weary.
The pics of the wedding are on Toni's computer, so as soon as I transfer them to mine I will post a few here.
I have this place (JWD) and the people here to thank for getting me out of the JW mindset and into a place where I could open up my heart to someone very special - it would never have happened without this support. For that gift, I thank you.
To those trying to leave the Watchtower, it is not easy. But it is worth it to get your life back (or get one if you did not have one as was my case).
Snakes (Rich ) and Toni and Hunter
i didn't want it to get buried and i'd really like to know.. so i knew pretty much what he was saying was true, but what i don't get is how the creative accounting works.. i mean you have to show expenses on the ledger - and i mean real expenses, like the co/do expenses along with receipts.. you have actual costs for the power coming into the building.
the paper supplies and cleaning supplies.
the vacuum cleaners and mops and other sundry items, and you have to have receipts for all that.. i also know that when you made a "donation" it was off the books at the circuit level as far as accounts were concerned.. but how is money not being accounted for?.
I used to have access to quite a lot of the behind the scenes goings on at the local assembly hall - including getting to see the actual books. They had an elder from a local congregation come in once a week to enter and pay actual bills and generate reports for the local Assembly Hall Committee members.
I was able to see the reports that the "per publisher" amount was based on. Not something the average elder was allowed access to. It was not just the standard utilities, supplies, etc. There were amounts in every accounting category that went into the running of the assembly hall property. This amount was totaled at the end of the year. The next years "per publisher" amount was based on the total amount of publishers using the assembly hall (as reported to the society in those monthly service reports -- ah, now we know why it is important for those field reports to be in from so many publishers - dilute the "per publisher" rate). So if there were 150 congregations with 15,000 publishers. Let's say there was a $7.50 per publisher rate. take that times 15K = $125,000 * 2 times per year (CA and SAD) = $225K per year in just those donations. If the assembly hall is paid for, shouldn't this be enough? Nope. There were deep pocket brothers that also made large donations to the assembly hall or paid for expenses (or like kind donations such as landscaping supplies) themselves.
So the per publisher rate was only a small piece of the overall money pie. I can tell you that donations outside of the assembly hall (CO/DO expenses, WT money, etc.) was recommended by the CO/DO and rubber stamped by the "business meeting" of elders at the assemblies. I only once ever heard it questioned.
The assembly hall I attended was well maintained and there were lots of "extra" things going on in the background -- dinners for the committee, COs and DO;s etc. I have commented on this crap before, this thread just brought it back to mind.
Glad I am so done with that.
Snakes (Rich )