Ok,
The predestination issue comes up again! This whole thing could have been avoided if God did not create the snake.
there are a lot of things in christian belief that have just came about through word of mouth.
a few examples, the fruit in the garden was an apple, the snake was satan etc.
in the bible it does not say that judas kissed jesus to identify him.
Ok,
The predestination issue comes up again! This whole thing could have been avoided if God did not create the snake.
today putin accused the united states of making the world a more dangerous place by pursuing policies aimed at making it "one single master".
attacking the concept of a "unipolar" world in which the united states was the sole superpower, he said: "what is a unipolar world?
no matter how we beautify this term it means one single centre of power, one single centre of force and one single master.".
Proplog, I too am an atheist. And, like you, I still believe the Bible has some kind of message.
there are a lot of things in christian belief that have just came about through word of mouth.
a few examples, the fruit in the garden was an apple, the snake was satan etc.
in the bible it does not say that judas kissed jesus to identify him.
Thank you all for your answers!
You all raise some very interesting points.
Can anybody clear up where the garden of Gethsemani was located? I thought that it was outside of Jerusalem - which is the reason why I thought Jesus would be easier to spot.
The point about no Romans coming for Jesus is very clever, something which I had not thought about in the past. Thanks for pointing that out Gordy
AvidBibleReader brought out an excellent point about Jesus already been betrayed. I was thinking that this kiss WAS the betrayal.
The posters such as Crumpet and Narkisson brought out superb points about no pictures being available of Jesus, not like today where his face would be plastered all over the news!
Narkissos, well researched. The mafia have a term 'kiss of death', I wonder if this is related?
Sad Emo and luvsdubs, I agree with you. Do you think Judas could not escape his destiny that God created for him?
And finally, my reason behind this thread......
I wanted to know more about this event and see it from other perspectives. This board is a wealth of information and you people are intelligent people. Thank you for showing this in different lights.
there are a lot of things in christian belief that have just came about through word of mouth.
a few examples, the fruit in the garden was an apple, the snake was satan etc.
in the bible it does not say that judas kissed jesus to identify him.
I'm just pushing this topic bttt. Thank you for all your comments, I can't comment on them just yet because I am too busy but I will reply this evening.
there are a lot of things in christian belief that have just came about through word of mouth.
a few examples, the fruit in the garden was an apple, the snake was satan etc.
in the bible it does not say that judas kissed jesus to identify him.
Well, the Garden of Gethsemane was located at the foot of the Mount of Olives. The Bible says that Jesus is brought from Gethsemani TO Jerusalem, through the Kidron Valley. Would not the Romans already know who Jesus was?
there are a lot of things in christian belief that have just came about through word of mouth.
a few examples, the fruit in the garden was an apple, the snake was satan etc.
in the bible it does not say that judas kissed jesus to identify him.
Narkisos,
Why do you think Jesus had to be identified in such a small town?
there are a lot of things in christian belief that have just came about through word of mouth.
a few examples, the fruit in the garden was an apple, the snake was satan etc.
in the bible it does not say that judas kissed jesus to identify him.
There you go, I changed it!
there are a lot of things in christian belief that have just came about through word of mouth.
a few examples, the fruit in the garden was an apple, the snake was satan etc.
in the bible it does not say that judas kissed jesus to identify him.
There are a lot of things in Christian belief that have just came about through word of mouth. A few examples, The fruit in the garden was an apple, the snake was Satan etc.
In the Bible it does not say that Judas kissed Jesus to identify him. In fact, why would he? In a small village everybody would know who Jesus was. So Judas betrayed Jesus with a kiss.
My question to believers is this: Why did Judas choose to kiss Jesus and not just point him out?
not a big amount of trouble, only a little bit of trouble.
it's not like i'm going to be disfellowshipped or anything.
but would appreciate some information anyway!
What a silly load of old nonsense.
More to the point, what was he doing allowing his 13 year old daughter to walk the streets at night?
would like to know if anyone has found differences in comparing the 2 books besides the article of older men that ray franz brought out.
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desertflower.
Don't know of any personally, but I will keep a keen eye on this thread. Blondie will probably know.