Posts by FusionTheism

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New David Splane Video: No 1900 Year Faithful Slave

by FusionTheism in

governing body member david splane has a new video on tv.jw.org where he talks about all the horrible things committed by martin luther and the protestant reformers.. his conclusion is that there has been no faithful and discreet slave on the earth during the past 1900 years (before 1919 i guess.).

he also says that maybe there were a few anointed on earth, maybe not.. he did add an interesting statement that he doesn't condemn the other churches just for misunderstanding the bible because the society has done that.. another odd point, was that he actually mentioned catholic missionary work in a somewhat positive light, while totally condemning the reformation views on predestination..

FusionTheism

Also, another comment by David Splane was that people at Bethel must not start getting the idea that since we know Jehovah wouldn't allow a good-hearted person to be destroyed, that there is no urgency to our preaching work.

He likened that to the Predestination beliefs of the Reformers.

But, if you think really deeply and logically about this:....

If it is JW theology that Jehovah will not abandon any truly good-hearted person, then what is the urgency to the preaching work?

I suppose it would just mean that Jehovah would have many FEWER evangelizers to use to reach the good-hearted people, and thus it would make the preaching work much more difficult and exhausting for those FEW.

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New David Splane Video: No 1900 Year Faithful Slave

by FusionTheism in

governing body member david splane has a new video on tv.jw.org where he talks about all the horrible things committed by martin luther and the protestant reformers.. his conclusion is that there has been no faithful and discreet slave on the earth during the past 1900 years (before 1919 i guess.).

he also says that maybe there were a few anointed on earth, maybe not.. he did add an interesting statement that he doesn't condemn the other churches just for misunderstanding the bible because the society has done that.. another odd point, was that he actually mentioned catholic missionary work in a somewhat positive light, while totally condemning the reformation views on predestination..

FusionTheism

Thank you Blondie and WiFi for showing all of their old incorrect views on this.

I'm wondering which direction they will decide to go after releasing this video?

It COULD be the first step toward a much more moderate view of the other churches, saying that they may simply be "misunderstanding the Bible," and thus could possibly be forgiven by Jehovah.

Also, it seems very much like David Splane is the man in charge of looking at all of their old doctrine and "fixing it," since he also gave the big New Light talk about the Types and Antitypes.

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New David Splane Video: No 1900 Year Faithful Slave

by FusionTheism in

governing body member david splane has a new video on tv.jw.org where he talks about all the horrible things committed by martin luther and the protestant reformers.. his conclusion is that there has been no faithful and discreet slave on the earth during the past 1900 years (before 1919 i guess.).

he also says that maybe there were a few anointed on earth, maybe not.. he did add an interesting statement that he doesn't condemn the other churches just for misunderstanding the bible because the society has done that.. another odd point, was that he actually mentioned catholic missionary work in a somewhat positive light, while totally condemning the reformation views on predestination..

FusionTheism

I suppose David Splane's new video would tie in good with the 2008 Generation belief and the new view that the selection of the anointed did not end in 1935.

By saying now that there may not have been anointed on earth during the past 1900 years before 1919, that gives a basis they can use for explaining why the number of anointed is increasing now: They'll just say God is filling up the spots that remained empty over those 1900 years.

In addition, if they are going back to the 2008 view on "This Generation," that means they'll say Jesus promised their would be anointed on earth until 70 C.E. but not afterward.

And the secondary fulfillment is that Jesus promised there would be anointed on earth from 1914 until the End.

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New David Splane Video: No 1900 Year Faithful Slave

by FusionTheism in

governing body member david splane has a new video on tv.jw.org where he talks about all the horrible things committed by martin luther and the protestant reformers.. his conclusion is that there has been no faithful and discreet slave on the earth during the past 1900 years (before 1919 i guess.).

he also says that maybe there were a few anointed on earth, maybe not.. he did add an interesting statement that he doesn't condemn the other churches just for misunderstanding the bible because the society has done that.. another odd point, was that he actually mentioned catholic missionary work in a somewhat positive light, while totally condemning the reformation views on predestination..

FusionTheism

Governing Body member David Splane has a new video on tv.jw.org where he talks about all the horrible things committed by Martin Luther and the Protestant Reformers.

His conclusion is that there has been NO Faithful and Discreet Slave on the earth during the past 1900 years (before 1919 I guess.)

He also says that maybe there were a few anointed on earth, maybe not.

He did add an interesting statement that he doesn't condemn the other churches just for misunderstanding the Bible because the Society has done that.

Another odd point, was that he actually mentioned Catholic missionary work in a somewhat positive light, while totally condemning the Reformation views on Predestination.

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Ignorant Atheist Talk Show Host Destroyed by Agnostic Dr. Bart Erhman! Topic "Did Jesus and Paul exist?"

by MagicMItchJensen in

i want you to see how fake people are who pretend their open-minded, dr. erhman try's to reason with someone whose mind is totally made up.

the topic is whether there was a man named jesus and paul, the infidel atheist get's owned because he shows his true colors!.

1. when would you tell this fool he stupid or willfully ignoring the facts?.

FusionTheism

A person could make a very good blog post out of all the regurgitated outdated claims made by atheists in this thread.

I think I'm gonna do that.

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Schoolyard bully mentality

by FusionTheism in

i'm not naming names, but i just want to encourage people on here or on reddit or twitter, and tell you that you do not have to tolerate people who act like schoolyard bullies in the way they speak to you online.

i think anonymity is a big part of it.

they feel like there is zero accountability so they can be a bully all they want.. i recommend just ignoring or blocking anyone who is verbally abusive or treats you like schoolyard bullies treated you.. life is way too short to spend any time dealing with those kinds of people..

FusionTheism

nicolaou,

You said:

FT, the forum doesn't need this. Grow a thicker skin and understand the heat that a forum full of cult survivors can generate. If you don't like it do as the aforementioned poster did - successfully I might add - leave and start your own site.

You are telling me, a fellow cult survivor, to get thicker skin and to expect, and put up with, and just accept bad treatment from a "cult support group,"? Otherwise I must be shunned, ridiculed, or banished to another website?

In what universe does that make sense?

Sounds waaaaaay too much like Disfellowshipping.

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Schoolyard bully mentality

by FusionTheism in

i'm not naming names, but i just want to encourage people on here or on reddit or twitter, and tell you that you do not have to tolerate people who act like schoolyard bullies in the way they speak to you online.

i think anonymity is a big part of it.

they feel like there is zero accountability so they can be a bully all they want.. i recommend just ignoring or blocking anyone who is verbally abusive or treats you like schoolyard bullies treated you.. life is way too short to spend any time dealing with those kinds of people..

FusionTheism

DJS,

Let me see if I understand you right:

You're saying that I, as a moderate Christian, should have EXPECTED to be bullied on a website that proclaims itself to be "friendly and tolerant?"

Isn't that the exact same attitude as people who say that women who "dress like sluts" can EXPECT or DESERVE to be raped?

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Schoolyard bully mentality

by FusionTheism in

i'm not naming names, but i just want to encourage people on here or on reddit or twitter, and tell you that you do not have to tolerate people who act like schoolyard bullies in the way they speak to you online.

i think anonymity is a big part of it.

they feel like there is zero accountability so they can be a bully all they want.. i recommend just ignoring or blocking anyone who is verbally abusive or treats you like schoolyard bullies treated you.. life is way too short to spend any time dealing with those kinds of people..

FusionTheism

Again, not naming names, but it seems some of the militant atheists and anti-theists have adopted the EXACT same practices of exclusivity, being one of "the elite," and ridicule & name-calling propaganda tactics that have been used by JW elders and leaders.

"Only atheists have the truth!"

"All theists are ignorant or liars!"

"Only atheists are intelligent!"

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Schoolyard bully mentality

by FusionTheism in

i'm not naming names, but i just want to encourage people on here or on reddit or twitter, and tell you that you do not have to tolerate people who act like schoolyard bullies in the way they speak to you online.

i think anonymity is a big part of it.

they feel like there is zero accountability so they can be a bully all they want.. i recommend just ignoring or blocking anyone who is verbally abusive or treats you like schoolyard bullies treated you.. life is way too short to spend any time dealing with those kinds of people..

FusionTheism

DJS,

There are bad religious people just like there are bad non-religious people.

Surely it's not open-minded or logical (actually it is a logical fallacy) to look at the bad religious people and then declare that all religion is.

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Schoolyard bully mentality

by FusionTheism in

i'm not naming names, but i just want to encourage people on here or on reddit or twitter, and tell you that you do not have to tolerate people who act like schoolyard bullies in the way they speak to you online.

i think anonymity is a big part of it.

they feel like there is zero accountability so they can be a bully all they want.. i recommend just ignoring or blocking anyone who is verbally abusive or treats you like schoolyard bullies treated you.. life is way too short to spend any time dealing with those kinds of people..

FusionTheism

In addition, why do atheists (9% of the population, maybe) think they have a monopoly on truth, or that they are so superior to the other 91% of people?

I'll just say again, that almost all the major positive world-changing events in history have been done by theists.